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Old 06-18-2013, 01:40 PM
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I don't know how many things the inertia switch inhibits but the elec guide in JTIS will show it.

PATS codes if any will be flashes you would need to count over about 2 mins, key in ign II.

Will only be engine codes if battery not been off or they keep occurring very early (most are inhibited till P1111 sets).
 
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I would remove the sump plug and see if any water comes out, using the dipstick won't show it as oil floats on water so as the dipstick comes out the water it passes through the oil making it look like just oil on the stick
 
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I have no dough that the oil need to be changed but I don't think thanks going to change the leaking water in the upper intake or allow the car to crank.
 
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ok I have check for PATS codes and find none. the light comes on under the check light start up but them goes out.
We the key in the 2nd position there are no blinking lights.

If I set the alarm there is one blink every 3 or 4 seconds

here is a pix. of the dash and warning message
 
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Then, passing over whether it's wise/safe to crank, it ought to.

If it won't I think you're looking at poor battery / bad power wiring / dead starter / jammed mechanical items / etc. The usual suspects for non-crank.
 
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Old 06-19-2013, 07:27 AM
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all the water/coolant has been removed from the intake and cylinder 99% anyway. the three that had water in the pictures were completely dry the valves held the water back, the other three all had a few ounces in them.
So I don't see cranking to be an issue, if it would only crank.

I will start checking connections, perhaps run my jumper directly to the starter to see if that makes any difference.

I will also have to download the electrical portion of the manual to see what they use to stop the engine in cooling safe mode (all I have is the powertrain manual).

It appears to operate the same as a Cadillac NorthStar of the 80's did, shutting off one cylinder at a time to keep the temp down, then cut the motor out supposedly before catastrophic failure. But nothing tells you how to rest it, maybe in the electrical manual I will find something.

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Old 06-19-2013, 09:25 AM
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I thought you had JTIS, which has the elec guide...
 
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I guess I dint download the complete manual all I have is the Jaguar s-type sport sedan powertrain introduction
 

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You will find JTIS in the download area https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/g...r-index-50609/
 
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Post #3 - would've been wise just to do it.
 
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May I offer a
 
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Well I still haven't got the complete JTIS to download maybe a windows 8 issue don't.
So seeing as I could not get the manual, I figure I would do it cave man style.

Hooked my 200 changer directly to the start nothing, same as before pegs the gauges does not crank. So enough of this BS I put a cheap 3/8 HF drive racket on the crank and it moves back and forth easily.

Hit the key nothing, roll the HB back a 1/2 turn or so, hit the key and the starter bumps.

SO now I know there is an interference problem in the engine and not a problem with the starter or the Fail Safe Cooling System Mode.

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So now we're back to post #19
 
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are you really that much of a *ick?
and you are one of the best and most respected members on this site WOW.

You seem to forget post #35 were you were completely incorrect with your assumptions

"There is apparently a leak path from the cooling system into one or more combustion chambers. If an intake valve is open, any fluid pushed into the cylinder will flow back out the intake."
 

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Originally Posted by drowssap
are you really that much of a *ick?
and you are one of the best and most respected members on this site WOW.

You seem to forget post #35 were you were completely incorrect with your assumptions

"There is apparently a leak path from the cooling system into one or more combustion chambers. If an intake valve is open, any fluid pushed into the cylinder will flow back out the intake."
Then please follow any of the other poster's advice- here's an excellent one from police666

Originally Posted by police666
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Looks like it's time to whip the head off and have a look.
Good luck with your car.
 
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Old 06-20-2013, 02:38 PM
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If the inertia switch is tripped the car will still crank. It only shuts off the fuel pump.
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If the inertia switch is tripped the car will still crank

thank you
 
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Old 06-21-2013, 10:55 AM
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So it's turning over ok now? Can you turn it 2 full revaluations?
 
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Old 06-21-2013, 12:18 PM
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666 nope, I will pull the valve cover over the weekend and see if anything is obvious before ripping the heads off

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Sounds like the timing chains have slipped and the cylinders are hitting the valves, why don't you save yourself some time and effort and get another engine
 


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