Oil change kit for 6HP26 6speed Transmission on SALE!
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Well I tried to order the oil change kit and they were back ordered on the pan and bolts. So I did what any cheap old fart does and shopped around. My last call was to my closest Jag dealer in Vancouver, Canada.
Surprisingly I hit the jackpot. They told me the liquid gold was $65 dollars a litre. They then told me they don't actually use it. They use the Land Rover fluid which is exactly the same at $14 a litre. So I ordered a pan, a set of bolts, the sealing sleeve and 7 litres of LR fluid. The net cost was $385CDN plus tax which I would have to pay even if I got it from Klaus as they get there pound of flesh at the border.
Yes, the STR is sitting over a puddle of expensive **** after the last six months of storage. Gotta get rid of the beater first so "she who must be obeyed" shuts up about too many cars. Plate and insure the STR and straight down to the transmission shop for two hours labor. Done. I hope...
Surprisingly I hit the jackpot. They told me the liquid gold was $65 dollars a litre. They then told me they don't actually use it. They use the Land Rover fluid which is exactly the same at $14 a litre. So I ordered a pan, a set of bolts, the sealing sleeve and 7 litres of LR fluid. The net cost was $385CDN plus tax which I would have to pay even if I got it from Klaus as they get there pound of flesh at the border.
Yes, the STR is sitting over a puddle of expensive **** after the last six months of storage. Gotta get rid of the beater first so "she who must be obeyed" shuts up about too many cars. Plate and insure the STR and straight down to the transmission shop for two hours labor. Done. I hope...
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Independent. Sports Car Shop | Vintage Sports Car Sales, Service, and Restoration | Eugene, Oregon It was about $250 for labor, I ordered the sleeve but they did not use it. They said it looked fine and when they have replaced them in the past some of the new ones actually leaked, so now I just have it on standby if I get a leak.
They were also gave me a 1995 XJ6 as a loaner!
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You mentioned they told you the new ones leaked in the past?
YOu sure they weren't too lazy to change it out hehehe..., that is really strange even though mine never leaked I had them change it out to the new one, and ontop of that when they removed the old sleeve it was the updated version, but I didnt want to take any chances later on so I had them change it out regardless. KNock on wood no leaks from it. Glad it worked for you amigo! ![Icon Bike](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_bike.gif)
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I wasn't particularly happy about it because I specifically bought a new one to be used during the change, but the car was all done and ready to go when I got there. Can the sleeve be changed without dropping the pan again? Otherwise they are great to work with and the free loaner was great.
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Nahh bro you have to drop the pan to get access to change out the sleeve. Thats the only way, and b/c of that reason I made sure those guys at the shop changed it any way. No worries just in the future, always replace it out it when you do a tranny re-fill. I know I know, if it aint broke don't touch it, but that rule shouldn't apply in this situation,
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To update this thread
Kit: $241.95
1L of fluid: $17.13 (X 2)
Sleeve: $15.48
Tax outside of Cali $0.00
Shipping to my state: $21.90
Total: $313.85
So understand the OUT THE DOOR price is nearly a third more than what the OP originally stated...
Also someone has mentioned several months ago that certain parts were on backorder...
Kit: $241.95
1L of fluid: $17.13 (X 2)
Sleeve: $15.48
Tax outside of Cali $0.00
Shipping to my state: $21.90
Total: $313.85
So understand the OUT THE DOOR price is nearly a third more than what the OP originally stated...
Also someone has mentioned several months ago that certain parts were on backorder...
Last edited by Bacardi 151; 10-06-2011 at 07:20 AM.
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To update this thread
Kit: $241.95
1L of fluid: $17.13 (X 2)
Sleeve: $15.48
Tax outside of Cali $0.00
Shipping to my state: $21.90
Total: $313.85
So understand the OUT THE DOOR price is nearly a third more than what the OP originally stated...
Also someone has mentioned several months ago that certain parts were on backorder...
Kit: $241.95
1L of fluid: $17.13 (X 2)
Sleeve: $15.48
Tax outside of Cali $0.00
Shipping to my state: $21.90
Total: $313.85
So understand the OUT THE DOOR price is nearly a third more than what the OP originally stated...
Also someone has mentioned several months ago that certain parts were on backorder...
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And I thought my Texas raised car would be bolt trouble-free! Well, I had four (4) strip the T27 heads after not breaking loose and had to use two screw extractors to get them out. Pain in my a$$. The new T40 bolts cost me $16 for all 21 of them from my local dealer, yes...less than $0.70 per bolt, a great deal. The next time this pan gets removed, someone will surely appreciate it.
Good news is that I think my previous fluid level (did by the dealer a few years ago) was low, and when cold, I would get frequent 'lurch' symptoms coming to a stop or a rolling takeoff. Now, Its practically non-existent, I would estimate the bump reduced by 90%. This is probably the way it was supposed to feel. I believe I put in about 1/2 quart more than was in it before I started. I did leave my pan off all night and think I drained 6-6.5 qts, so be sure to order an extra quart of fluid if you plan on letting it drain longer than it takes to just change the pan.
Also another observation that might help others - since I had both an IR thermometer gun and my AutoEnginuity scanner, I took readings from both to see what the difference was between the actual tranny fluid temp (using AE) and the pan temp using the IR gun.
The IR gun reading is 2 degrees Celsius more than the actual fluid temp, using an Emissivity coefficient of 0.85 on the plastic pan.
Good news is that I think my previous fluid level (did by the dealer a few years ago) was low, and when cold, I would get frequent 'lurch' symptoms coming to a stop or a rolling takeoff. Now, Its practically non-existent, I would estimate the bump reduced by 90%. This is probably the way it was supposed to feel. I believe I put in about 1/2 quart more than was in it before I started. I did leave my pan off all night and think I drained 6-6.5 qts, so be sure to order an extra quart of fluid if you plan on letting it drain longer than it takes to just change the pan.
Also another observation that might help others - since I had both an IR thermometer gun and my AutoEnginuity scanner, I took readings from both to see what the difference was between the actual tranny fluid temp (using AE) and the pan temp using the IR gun.
The IR gun reading is 2 degrees Celsius more than the actual fluid temp, using an Emissivity coefficient of 0.85 on the plastic pan.
Last edited by H20boy; 01-18-2012 at 02:25 AM. Reason: corrected it from 'less' to 'more' for the IR reading
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jag79, wunderbar. That 2 between 25 & 27 might not seem much, but it is more than enough to cause the torx bit to 'strip out' on a tight screw. And those bloody things are an absolute nightmare when that happens. In my opinion, the idiot who came up with such a variation in 'standard' needs to have a ring of varied sized units fitted to a certain part of his anatomy using full strength locktite, then sent for a 'fluid' change after a month!
I wonder how many of us have been caught out thinking that the size we were working with was 25, and only finding out too late that we chose the wrong one.
Cheers,
Languid
I wonder how many of us have been caught out thinking that the size we were working with was 25, and only finding out too late that we chose the wrong one.
Cheers,
Languid
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And I thought my Texas raised car would be bolt trouble-free! Well, I had four (4) strip the T27 heads after not breaking loose and had to use two screw extractors to get them out. Pain in my a$$. The new T40 bolts cost me $16 for all 21 of them from my local dealer, yes...less than $0.70 per bolt, a great deal. The next time this pan gets removed, someone will surely appreciate it.
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From this Land Rover site:
ZF 6HP26 Automatic Transmission Metal Pan with Filter - Land Rover Forums : Land Rover and Range Rover Forum
The following is listed for metal pan conversion:
> Parts you need for the metal pan conversion
> Item ZF part#
> Steel pan 1068 203 042
> Gasket 1068 303 017
> Filter 0501 213 359
> Pan screws 0736 010 347 requires 21 screws
>You can contact Erikson Industries in Saybrook CT, 800-388-4418 to have >the parts order from Germany for you...
I have not verified if this is correct. Swapping to a metal pan adds 6.5 lbs from what I saw on the cectc site.
ZF 6HP26 Automatic Transmission Metal Pan with Filter - Land Rover Forums : Land Rover and Range Rover Forum
The following is listed for metal pan conversion:
> Parts you need for the metal pan conversion
> Item ZF part#
> Steel pan 1068 203 042
> Gasket 1068 303 017
> Filter 0501 213 359
> Pan screws 0736 010 347 requires 21 screws
>You can contact Erikson Industries in Saybrook CT, 800-388-4418 to have >the parts order from Germany for you...
I have not verified if this is correct. Swapping to a metal pan adds 6.5 lbs from what I saw on the cectc site.
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