The ole' coolant leak under the supercharger
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The only thing is that you still have to have rubber hose at each end and one end is larger.
I haven't seen if there's a common spot for failure. Is it always at that short end where it gets bigger?
Dexcool - ugh. I put it back in when I changed mine last year but I have none in my GM Suburban and that did have a failure due to corrosion but I hadn't heard about it attacking hoses. More urban legend or what?
I haven't seen if there's a common spot for failure. Is it always at that short end where it gets bigger?
Dexcool - ugh. I put it back in when I changed mine last year but I have none in my GM Suburban and that did have a failure due to corrosion but I hadn't heard about it attacking hoses. More urban legend or what?
As far as Dexcool and EPDM, it is at least "informed comment" in one article where the author is a chemist by trade who also happens to be a car freak. He goes through the formulation and the logic of the chemical reaction in quite a bit of detail.
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This is getting ridiculous. He went to Jaguar today to speak with the tech about the exact parts that needed to be ordered and what is recommended to be replaced with the blower off. We are now up to a grand total of $1600 and I'm pissed.
Hose, EGR valve, all gaskets, thermostat, Jag coolant, new bolts etc etc.
He also tried to get 2 bushings for the 2 lower, front control arms but of course they only sell the arms themselves at the very reasonable price of ~$600/each. Wow. I told him NOT to touch those. Can you get the bushings seperate or do you need to buy the whole freaking thing?
Hose, EGR valve, all gaskets, thermostat, Jag coolant, new bolts etc etc.
He also tried to get 2 bushings for the 2 lower, front control arms but of course they only sell the arms themselves at the very reasonable price of ~$600/each. Wow. I told him NOT to touch those. Can you get the bushings seperate or do you need to buy the whole freaking thing?
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Something is wrong here. Cool off period needed.
Does that include the labor or is that just the parts?
Does that include the labor or is that just the parts?
This is getting ridiculous. He went to Jaguar today to speak with the tech about the exact parts that needed to be ordered and what is recommended to be replaced with the blower off. We are now up to a grand total of $1600 and I'm pissed.
Hose, EGR valve, all gaskets, thermostat, Jag coolant, new bolts etc etc.
He also tried to get 2 bushings for the 2 lower, front control arms but of course they only sell the arms themselves at the very reasonable price of ~$600/each. Wow. I told him NOT to touch those. Can you get the bushings seperate or do you need to buy the whole freaking thing?
Hose, EGR valve, all gaskets, thermostat, Jag coolant, new bolts etc etc.
He also tried to get 2 bushings for the 2 lower, front control arms but of course they only sell the arms themselves at the very reasonable price of ~$600/each. Wow. I told him NOT to touch those. Can you get the bushings seperate or do you need to buy the whole freaking thing?
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Copper cracks and if you don't get the piece in there with zero interference you're in for a world of hurt. I'm not looking at the actual parts etc. so it really depends. I have used partial copper tubing on my twin turbo car but I was able to ensure that there was no stress or mechanical interference.
The hose at the thermostat end would still be larger, but on a custom fabrication you can use the hose of your choice, including silicone. The ultimate choice would be to make the interface at the thermostat end hose free with the use of the proper fitting. The real point of the copper tubing is that it can be formed without having to convince someone to do a production run. All you have to do is use the old hose as a pattern. Any refrigeration mechanic can do it in a jiffy.
As far as Dexcool and EPDM, it is at least "informed comment" in one article where the author is a chemist by trade who also happens to be a car freak. He goes through the formulation and the logic of the chemical reaction in quite a bit of detail.
As far as Dexcool and EPDM, it is at least "informed comment" in one article where the author is a chemist by trade who also happens to be a car freak. He goes through the formulation and the logic of the chemical reaction in quite a bit of detail.
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Copper cracks and if you don't get the piece in there with zero interference you're in for a world of hurt. I'm not looking at the actual parts etc. so it really depends. I have used partial copper tubing on my twin turbo car but I was able to ensure that there was no stress or mechanical interference.
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Bushes (bushings) - see Jaguar Forum.co.uk • View topic - The definitive wishbone bush thread
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I paid $1165 for the hose under the blower to get replaced from a local independent. So, $1600 doesnt sound too far off from the dealer.
I work on cars a decent amount and I wouldn't want to have to tackle the repair. I've tried and failed. There are some hoses at the back of the engine compartment that are an absolute pain. The s type r is the most difficult of all the jag vehicles to do this repair on according to the techs i talked to. They hate doing the repair but have to.... They have one designated guy with small hands that does it. Yes, it's that bad.
I work on cars a decent amount and I wouldn't want to have to tackle the repair. I've tried and failed. There are some hoses at the back of the engine compartment that are an absolute pain. The s type r is the most difficult of all the jag vehicles to do this repair on according to the techs i talked to. They hate doing the repair but have to.... They have one designated guy with small hands that does it. Yes, it's that bad.
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I hope/expect the UK forum would be fine if we made a FAQ that pointed to theirs. They may pick up some extra members (it's a good forum, though I marginally prefer this one). I don't think we should steal the thread as-is.
If there are local (USA/Cdn/...) suppliers for the various parts at good prices, it would be useful to have a FAQ here with details.
(Basically, think would this site be happy if another stole its data - I reckon not - but a link to our FAQ? Sure, at least I can't see why not.)
If there are local (USA/Cdn/...) suppliers for the various parts at good prices, it would be useful to have a FAQ here with details.
(Basically, think would this site be happy if another stole its data - I reckon not - but a link to our FAQ? Sure, at least I can't see why not.)
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I hope/expect the UK forum would be fine if we made a FAQ that pointed to theirs. They may pick up some extra members (it's a good forum, though I marginally prefer this one). I don't think we should steal the thread as-is.
If there are local (USA/Cdn/...) suppliers for the various parts at good prices, it would be useful to have a FAQ here with details.
(Basically, think would this site be happy if another stole its data - I reckon not - but a link to our FAQ? Sure, at least I can't see why not.)
If there are local (USA/Cdn/...) suppliers for the various parts at good prices, it would be useful to have a FAQ here with details.
(Basically, think would this site be happy if another stole its data - I reckon not - but a link to our FAQ? Sure, at least I can't see why not.)
However, copying content verbatim is considered a no-no and can cause the copying site or its service provider to receive a DMCA(Digital Millenium Copyright Act) takedown notice. A US based service provider *must* act on any valid takedown notice.
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That should be a sticky or I will just start another thread with the same info and then you can make it a sticky. Very helpful info. However some US distributors would help immensely.
I stopped by the shop today at about 530PM because I had a softball game and all my equipment was in the Jag's trunk. There was three of them still working on it, a big itemized bill from Jag, and I'm sure they probably regret taking on the job given all the work involved.
I am sickened. She is so filthy, in need of a a professional detail, front bumper spray and all I can think about is this gigantic bill staring me in the face for a freaking hose failure. Whats up recall, TSB??????
I stopped by the shop today at about 530PM because I had a softball game and all my equipment was in the Jag's trunk. There was three of them still working on it, a big itemized bill from Jag, and I'm sure they probably regret taking on the job given all the work involved.
I am sickened. She is so filthy, in need of a a professional detail, front bumper spray and all I can think about is this gigantic bill staring me in the face for a freaking hose failure. Whats up recall, TSB??????
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So the EGR valve was bad as well? That certainly didn't help the situation. What was the deal with that?
The coolant price is a total rip off.
Honestly, Jaguar should at least be supplying the parts at cost.
BTW, I don't think that the Jag extended warranty or any others for that matter would have covered this because it's a hose.
So even if you do the job yourself your in for a beating.
The coolant price is a total rip off.
Honestly, Jaguar should at least be supplying the parts at cost.
BTW, I don't think that the Jag extended warranty or any others for that matter would have covered this because it's a hose.
So even if you do the job yourself your in for a beating.