Retrofiting Nav Display in 2002.5 S-Type (lift) electrical problem
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Retrofiting Nav Display in 2002.5 S-Type (lift) electrical problem
Hi everybody,
I`m from Poland and I found your forum when I`m looking for a help with retrofitting a nav display to non nav s-type 2002.5 (an old s-type exterior with new console and interior).
I bought an RCCM module and mounted in instead of manual AC control panel, I have navigation control module mounted in a trunk, display to use in cabin - from 2005 s-type. I plugged all cables from manual AC control module to RCCM, Audio cables to new audio unit without any changes, the same with optic fiber. Temporary I disconnected CD auto-changer in a trunk and put an optic fiber to the nav module.
This is the way how I made custom loom from the nav control module to the display and where are connected:
Connector: CA258 (navigation control module)
Pin outs:
1: Rear Fuse-box to positive
2: Pin: 13 of Connector: FC92
3: Pin: 3 of Connector: CA267 (CD AUTO-CHANGER) - D2B Wake Up
4: Pin: 1 of Connector: CA241 (Parking Brake Control Module) - Standard Corporate Protocol Network
5: not connected
6: not connected
7: not connected
8: not connected
9: not connected
10: not connected
11: Front fuse box - primary Junction Box - positive
12: not connected
13: Mute in phone module - unused
14: Pin: 7 of Connector: CA241 (Parking Brake Control Module) - Standard Corporate Protocol Network
15: not connected
16: not connected
17: not connected
18: not connected
19: not connected
20: not connected
Connector: CA257 (navigation control module)
Pin-outs:
1: Pin: 18 of Connector: FC92
2: Pin: 7 of Connector: FC92
3: not connected
4: not connected
5: not connected
6: not connected
7: Pin: 4 of Connector: FC92
8: not connected
9: not connected
10: not connected
11: not connected
12: not connected
13: not connected
14: Pin: 6 of Connector: FC92
15: Pin: 17 of Connector: FC92
16: Pin: 8 of Connector: FC92
17: not connected
18: not connected
19: not connected
20: Pin: 15 of Connector: FC92
21: not connected
22: not connected
23: not connected
24: not connected
25: not connected
26: not connected
Connector: FC92 (Display)
pin-outs:
1: Primary Junction Box - positive
2: Primary Junction Box - positive
3: not connected
4: Pin: 7 of Connector: CA257
5: not connected
6: Pin: 14 of Connector: CA257
7: Pin: 2 of Connector: CA257
8: Pin: 16 of Connector: CA257
9: positive from dimmer in cabin, temporary 12v positive
10: unused - mute in phone module
11: not connected
12: ground in cabin
13: Pin: 2 of Connector: CA258
14: not connected
15: Pin: 20 of Connector: CA257
16: not connected
17: Pin: 15 of Connector: CA257
18: Pin: 1 of Connector: CA257
19: not connected
20: not connected
21: not connected
22: not connected
Problem is that the screen don't want to work. I have just dimmer of the buttons but nothing on the screen, I cant even turn the rear window heating or AC or music (radio/cd).
Please help me with this, i`ll be so thankfully...
I`m from Poland and I found your forum when I`m looking for a help with retrofitting a nav display to non nav s-type 2002.5 (an old s-type exterior with new console and interior).
I bought an RCCM module and mounted in instead of manual AC control panel, I have navigation control module mounted in a trunk, display to use in cabin - from 2005 s-type. I plugged all cables from manual AC control module to RCCM, Audio cables to new audio unit without any changes, the same with optic fiber. Temporary I disconnected CD auto-changer in a trunk and put an optic fiber to the nav module.
This is the way how I made custom loom from the nav control module to the display and where are connected:
Connector: CA258 (navigation control module)
Pin outs:
1: Rear Fuse-box to positive
2: Pin: 13 of Connector: FC92
3: Pin: 3 of Connector: CA267 (CD AUTO-CHANGER) - D2B Wake Up
4: Pin: 1 of Connector: CA241 (Parking Brake Control Module) - Standard Corporate Protocol Network
5: not connected
6: not connected
7: not connected
8: not connected
9: not connected
10: not connected
11: Front fuse box - primary Junction Box - positive
12: not connected
13: Mute in phone module - unused
14: Pin: 7 of Connector: CA241 (Parking Brake Control Module) - Standard Corporate Protocol Network
15: not connected
16: not connected
17: not connected
18: not connected
19: not connected
20: not connected
Connector: CA257 (navigation control module)
Pin-outs:
1: Pin: 18 of Connector: FC92
2: Pin: 7 of Connector: FC92
3: not connected
4: not connected
5: not connected
6: not connected
7: Pin: 4 of Connector: FC92
8: not connected
9: not connected
10: not connected
11: not connected
12: not connected
13: not connected
14: Pin: 6 of Connector: FC92
15: Pin: 17 of Connector: FC92
16: Pin: 8 of Connector: FC92
17: not connected
18: not connected
19: not connected
20: Pin: 15 of Connector: FC92
21: not connected
22: not connected
23: not connected
24: not connected
25: not connected
26: not connected
Connector: FC92 (Display)
pin-outs:
1: Primary Junction Box - positive
2: Primary Junction Box - positive
3: not connected
4: Pin: 7 of Connector: CA257
5: not connected
6: Pin: 14 of Connector: CA257
7: Pin: 2 of Connector: CA257
8: Pin: 16 of Connector: CA257
9: positive from dimmer in cabin, temporary 12v positive
10: unused - mute in phone module
11: not connected
12: ground in cabin
13: Pin: 2 of Connector: CA258
14: not connected
15: Pin: 20 of Connector: CA257
16: not connected
17: Pin: 15 of Connector: CA257
18: Pin: 1 of Connector: CA257
19: not connected
20: not connected
21: not connected
22: not connected
Problem is that the screen don't want to work. I have just dimmer of the buttons but nothing on the screen, I cant even turn the rear window heating or AC or music (radio/cd).
Please help me with this, i`ll be so thankfully...
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even when I Have a new interior?
like this:
http://www.moibibiki.com/images/jaguar-stype-4.jpg
?
I cant see any differences in electrical...
like this:
http://www.moibibiki.com/images/jaguar-stype-4.jpg
?
I cant see any differences in electrical...
#5
I made a little step forward and now I`m pretty sure it is possible to retrofit navi to non navi. I don't have any idea how, but today, when I back from work and try to switch ignition on, display works. I can enter to menu etc. But: 1) I can`t use Air-condition and all features connected with it (heating rear window etc) - "Ignition off no A/C available” and I cant use audio "communication fault please consult your dealer". Whats wrong?
I have to write that my original audio module (in cabin) was for the tapes and I want to use a new one delivered with navi module (cd version). When I connect navi and my audio module I can run audio but from audio module, not from touch display where I have still commend that there is problem with communication. Should I program audio module or something?
The RCCM module I have from 4.2l V8 S-type. Is it a problem? I found a lot of information's that it doesn't matter from what version is the RCCM module.
Any Ideas? Thanks a lot.
I have to write that my original audio module (in cabin) was for the tapes and I want to use a new one delivered with navi module (cd version). When I connect navi and my audio module I can run audio but from audio module, not from touch display where I have still commend that there is problem with communication. Should I program audio module or something?
The RCCM module I have from 4.2l V8 S-type. Is it a problem? I found a lot of information's that it doesn't matter from what version is the RCCM module.
Any Ideas? Thanks a lot.
#6
For starters, you definitely can retrofit sat nav to your car - it's the facelift model, though it didn't arrive in the US until the following year.
I have retrofitted sat nav to the same car that you have, and I've just taken it out of that car and retrofitted it a later 4.2 V8. I've also changed from tape to cd player on the main console.
So, the RCCM unit should be compatible - I've used it in both a 2002.5 3.0 and a 2005 4.2. There also shouldn't be any problem with the cd player.
I'd suggest you have a look on the UK forum where there is a huge thread on the retrofit (it's a sticky in the X-type sub-forum), including instructions for the cable loom. I suspect you have a cable problem.
There is also a guy on the forum there - Jostaffs - who makes the retrofit wiring loom (he did mine). I'm not sure if he'll ship to Poland but there's no harm in asking!
I have retrofitted sat nav to the same car that you have, and I've just taken it out of that car and retrofitted it a later 4.2 V8. I've also changed from tape to cd player on the main console.
So, the RCCM unit should be compatible - I've used it in both a 2002.5 3.0 and a 2005 4.2. There also shouldn't be any problem with the cd player.
I'd suggest you have a look on the UK forum where there is a huge thread on the retrofit (it's a sticky in the X-type sub-forum), including instructions for the cable loom. I suspect you have a cable problem.
There is also a guy on the forum there - Jostaffs - who makes the retrofit wiring loom (he did mine). I'm not sure if he'll ship to Poland but there's no harm in asking!
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As I understand it, there's no need for a dealer unless you need the D2B optical network 'woken up'. But if you have anything already on the network - in this case a cd changer - then you definitely don't.
And you might not need a dealer even if there aren't any existing peripherals. My 2002.5 car didn't have anything on the network but it was all just plug and play. It's actually quite straightforward to do, especially if you get someone to make the retrofit cable (wiring is not my strong suit).
And you might not need a dealer even if there aren't any existing peripherals. My 2002.5 car didn't have anything on the network but it was all just plug and play. It's actually quite straightforward to do, especially if you get someone to make the retrofit cable (wiring is not my strong suit).
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