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Old 06-29-2011, 09:11 AM
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They'd be Brembo 365mm / 14.4" and they don't appear to need to be any bigger. You hear of STRs having trouble braking? No.

If those others are heavier won't they spoil the handling somewhat?
One thing an STR definitely has no challenge with is stopping, even with bad tires and/or lousy pavement surfaces.
 
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Old 06-29-2011, 10:13 AM
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Shame on me! I should have looked.

Thanks jagV8
No worries! Besides, it's not at all a typical endeavour for this forum so you'd hardly expect it to exist.

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Originally Posted by qwiketz
Sounds like a cool project. I personally would have started with an str with a broken trans or engine and then swapped the ls3 in. As the guys mentioned the str does have heavier duty suspension parts and decent brakes. In either case you'd want to do something about the lack of limited slip diff. Also the '03 up cars suspension feels superior to the older s types in my opinion after having both. I'm not sure what the changed but the newer cars feel much different.
If I could have run across a later model S-type or an STR I would have used it as the platform for the swap. As it turned out, the 2000 I purchased was in mint shape, lower mileage, a bad engine and at a good price. Because of their newer age and less depreciation, everyone seems to want and arm and a leg for a non-running 2003 to 2006 S-type. Newer model cars also come with even more electrical integration problems.

For M.Y. 2003, The S-type front-end went to a single piece front sub-frame, and a 2-piece lower A-arm, where the lower ball joint is reversed from the earlier models. They improved the quality and compliance of the bushing used throughout the suspension and how the sub frame mounts to the body. Many write-ups state that the next generation suspension is vastly improved over the 2000 to 2002 cars.

One interesting/limiting thing about the S-type's front suspension is that it is very optimized to the factory configuration and there is very little one can do change/upgrade the suspension. Perhaps stiffer springs/shocks. The suspension's geometry has little room for wider wheels on the front. Anything over 8" wide and you have to move the wheel further out and as a result change the scrub and other suspension characteristics.
 
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Originally Posted by Tijoe
Has anyone read/heard anything about Rotora brakes?

They make a big brake kits for the 03-05 S-type R and 04-05 XJRs.

Rotora Brakes - Rotora Brakes

12 piston caliper with 380mm/15" rotors! That is a lot of breaking surface on a very large rotor.
1. Who in the h*ll are Rotora?
2. Six pads fitted in a single caliper that looks like it has to com off for a pad change as opposed to the stock Brembos that simply slide on in from the top easy as pie. Also, they might be overloading a wimpy 15" rotor with that much pad area. There's a difference between parts simply machined to fit and a fully engineered solution. Lot's of development work.

Looks nightmarish to me.

Also, puny compared to the humongous carbon fiber brakes I saw on a Bentley Super Sports this weekend at the track. But I wouldn't want to have to pay for service on those. OMG.
 
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I've been trying to find out more about Rotora, and from what I've gleaned off the internet, They appear to be a company out of Singapore. Articles I've found about them goes back to 2005. There are a lot of reviews out there on other forums and all I read appear to be positive.

One thing I read stated that most brake manufacturers have moved away from selling calipers with more than 6 pots in them and the author stated that he thought the Rotora 12 pot calipers are more of a marketing gimmick than having more stopping power than 6 pot Brembo calipers.

I am thinking that I may try to use Z06 PBR calipers. Cost effective, good performance with the right pad/rotor combination, but they weigh in more, at 11.4 lbs.
 
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