Rotten Rear-Tie Rods
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Hello all,
Would appreciate some technical input if anyone out there can help...
We've discovered both rear-tie rods are badly corroded - particularly the wheel end rubber boots which long-ago perished dumping grease.
When gripped the whole part can be twisted from roughly 2 o'clock to 5 o'clock.
1.Would these cause judder on heavy acceleration and wheel's are free(er) to move than normal?
2.Would PCM think this is Gearbox Fault?
Code p0733 was picked-up - not much info on this forum.
Thanks,
Would appreciate some technical input if anyone out there can help...
We've discovered both rear-tie rods are badly corroded - particularly the wheel end rubber boots which long-ago perished dumping grease.
When gripped the whole part can be twisted from roughly 2 o'clock to 5 o'clock.
1.Would these cause judder on heavy acceleration and wheel's are free(er) to move than normal?
2.Would PCM think this is Gearbox Fault?
Code p0733 was picked-up - not much info on this forum.
Thanks,
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Your P0733 code is a transmission issue. Therefore it would have nothing the do with the rear suspension.
Heres a link at what you are looking at as far as rear tie rod replacement:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...ics-faq-55280/
Heres a link at what you are looking at as far as rear tie rod replacement:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...ics-faq-55280/
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Thanks for that...but I didn't think Jaguars were that simple.
I've already removed them and know how critical these are for keeping wheels straight.
If the rear-wheels are moving unnaturally (toe-in/out) - how would the input/ output transmission sensors know it's a rotten tie-rods - it wouldn't and surely assumes gearbox fault because the power isn't being transmitted properly.
Anyone see my point here?
What are the symptoms of failed tie-rods?
I've already removed them and know how critical these are for keeping wheels straight.
If the rear-wheels are moving unnaturally (toe-in/out) - how would the input/ output transmission sensors know it's a rotten tie-rods - it wouldn't and surely assumes gearbox fault because the power isn't being transmitted properly.
Anyone see my point here?
What are the symptoms of failed tie-rods?
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I don't know any way you can get that code due to tie rods!
Can't hurt to fix them and see if the code returns, but I guess it will![Frown](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/frown.gif)
I don't know if it can cause that code but the commonish fault on the Ford 5R55N is a spring, as here www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s-type-s-type-r-supercharged-v8-15/stype-5r55n-valve-spring-replacement-22929/
Can't hurt to fix them and see if the code returns, but I guess it will
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I don't know if it can cause that code but the commonish fault on the Ford 5R55N is a spring, as here www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s-type-s-type-r-supercharged-v8-15/stype-5r55n-valve-spring-replacement-22929/
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Thanks,
This is the head-ache....
Would p0733 remain stored after 4-3 spring replacement ?
Because of Jaguar's incompetence back in June (they cleared the codes but wouldn't drive and re-scan ) we're not even 100% if p0733 remains flagged - this might have been present due to broken 4-3 spring which I replaced months ago.
What is certain is the back-end shakes/ hesitates on hard acceleration - there are ABS teeth rings which are monitored by the traction control.
This is the head-ache....
Would p0733 remain stored after 4-3 spring replacement ?
Because of Jaguar's incompetence back in June (they cleared the codes but wouldn't drive and re-scan ) we're not even 100% if p0733 remains flagged - this might have been present due to broken 4-3 spring which I replaced months ago.
What is certain is the back-end shakes/ hesitates on hard acceleration - there are ABS teeth rings which are monitored by the traction control.
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Thanks for that...but I didn't think Jaguars were that simple.
I've already removed them and know how critical these are for keeping wheels straight.
If the rear-wheels are moving unnaturally (toe-in/out) - how would the input/ output transmission sensors know it's a rotten tie-rods - it wouldn't and surely assumes gearbox fault because the power isn't being transmitted properly.
Anyone see my point here?
What are the symptoms of failed tie-rods?
I've already removed them and know how critical these are for keeping wheels straight.
If the rear-wheels are moving unnaturally (toe-in/out) - how would the input/ output transmission sensors know it's a rotten tie-rods - it wouldn't and surely assumes gearbox fault because the power isn't being transmitted properly.
Anyone see my point here?
What are the symptoms of failed tie-rods?
3RD GEAR RATIO FAULT. BUT USEALLY ON A 2000-2002.5 IT WOULD NOT BE.
ON A 2000-2002.5 THE SYMPTOM IS MOST PROLIFIC AS INNER REAR TIRE WEAR SINCE THE PLANNED TRAJECTORY OF THE INTENDED PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE IS NO LONGER REALIZED BY WORNOUT REAR TIE RODS
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Brutal,
Fabulous. Just the kind of answer I was hoping!
The rear suspension is indeed a fine-tuned instrument. If i'm able to twist the component by hand, what will 230+bhp pushing 1800kg be doing? It must be significant?
JagV8,
I did a hard-reset back in June before getting the codes read - therefore the p0733 popped back-up even with the repaired 4-3 spring installed?
What's interesting is that last week I fitted a new coolant tank and discovered system was 2-3 ltrs low and cracked tank was loosing pressure. Drove the car today and Gearbox Fault is back on the cluster.
Weird.
Fabulous. Just the kind of answer I was hoping!
The rear suspension is indeed a fine-tuned instrument. If i'm able to twist the component by hand, what will 230+bhp pushing 1800kg be doing? It must be significant?
JagV8,
I did a hard-reset back in June before getting the codes read - therefore the p0733 popped back-up even with the repaired 4-3 spring installed?
What's interesting is that last week I fitted a new coolant tank and discovered system was 2-3 ltrs low and cracked tank was loosing pressure. Drove the car today and Gearbox Fault is back on the cluster.
Weird.
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brutal,
fabulous. Just the kind of answer i was hoping!
The rear suspension is indeed a fine-tuned instrument. If i'm able to twist the component by hand, what will 230+bhp pushing 1800kg be doing? It must be significant?jagv8,
i did a hard-reset back in june before getting the codes read - therefore the p0733 popped back-up even with the repaired 4-3 spring installed what's interesting is that last week i fitted a new coolant tank and discovered system was 2-3 ltrs low and cracked tank was loosing pressure. Drove the car today and gearbox fault is back on the cluster.
Weird.
fabulous. Just the kind of answer i was hoping!
The rear suspension is indeed a fine-tuned instrument. If i'm able to twist the component by hand, what will 230+bhp pushing 1800kg be doing? It must be significant?jagv8,
i did a hard-reset back in june before getting the codes read - therefore the p0733 popped back-up even with the repaired 4-3 spring installed what's interesting is that last week i fitted a new coolant tank and discovered system was 2-3 ltrs low and cracked tank was loosing pressure. Drove the car today and gearbox fault is back on the cluster.
Weird.
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