RPM Fluctuates only when driving Pls Help
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JOsworth I just sent you an email..thanks again.
To everyone else JOsworth may come over today with a scan tool and try to help me out. I will post any info from that on here afterwards, and thanks to everyone for their help.
Also I was doing further research about this problem and found a post on here with what sounds to be a similar problem to mine. In that post some people believe the problem is related to TSB S307-14. I am not sure but this sounds very similar to what mine seems to be doing. Again I will post more after JOsworth stops by with his scan tool.
To everyone else JOsworth may come over today with a scan tool and try to help me out. I will post any info from that on here afterwards, and thanks to everyone for their help.
Also I was doing further research about this problem and found a post on here with what sounds to be a similar problem to mine. In that post some people believe the problem is related to TSB S307-14. I am not sure but this sounds very similar to what mine seems to be doing. Again I will post more after JOsworth stops by with his scan tool.
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Thanks JOsworth for stopping by.
For everyone else. I checked for vacuum seals after JOsworth left and there does not appear to be any. The problem is the issue I reported did not occur when JOsworth was over inspecting the car, ans since I recently had messed with MAF we were unable to get any new codes as well.
However, the temperature today has been 81 degrees and I think that is part of the reason the problem did not occur. JOsworth and I both seem to think that the problem is the TSB S307-14 and it needs flashed. The temperature also seems to add to that hypothesis in my mind anyway based on other posts regarding the problem being affected by a temperature range as well. JOsworth is hooking me up with a name and number of the manager of the Cleveland Jaguar to have it inspected and reflashed. Thanks again JOsworth.
For everyone else. I checked for vacuum seals after JOsworth left and there does not appear to be any. The problem is the issue I reported did not occur when JOsworth was over inspecting the car, ans since I recently had messed with MAF we were unable to get any new codes as well.
However, the temperature today has been 81 degrees and I think that is part of the reason the problem did not occur. JOsworth and I both seem to think that the problem is the TSB S307-14 and it needs flashed. The temperature also seems to add to that hypothesis in my mind anyway based on other posts regarding the problem being affected by a temperature range as well. JOsworth is hooking me up with a name and number of the manager of the Cleveland Jaguar to have it inspected and reflashed. Thanks again JOsworth.
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Jeff, it was extremely generous of you to go out of your way to help out cyber, even to make a house call,,,, (ummm I think I need an opinion on some center caps, can you swing by and take a look)?
cyber, the thanks in your posts are great to Jeff, although he is no longer a Jag owner (insert cough cough) there is a little button at the bottom right that says "Thanks" mouse over it in a post that he helped you on (a couple of times) and click! Even though most of us are modest, I know it would make me feel better!
I do hope that Solon Jag/LR will fix you up, and don't forget the donuts!
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cyber, the thanks in your posts are great to Jeff, although he is no longer a Jag owner (insert cough cough) there is a little button at the bottom right that says "Thanks" mouse over it in a post that he helped you on (a couple of times) and click! Even though most of us are modest, I know it would make me feel better!
I do hope that Solon Jag/LR will fix you up, and don't forget the donuts!
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Jeff, it was extremely generous of you to go out of your way to help out cyber, even to make a house call,,,, (ummm I think I need an opinion on some center caps, can you swing by and take a look)?
cyber, the thanks in your posts are great to Jeff, although he is no longer a Jag owner (insert cough cough) there is a little button at the bottom right that says "Thanks" mouse over it in a post that he helped you on (a couple of times) and click! Even though most of us are modest, I know it would make me feel better!
I do hope that Solon Jag/LR will fix you up, and don't forget the donuts!
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cyber, the thanks in your posts are great to Jeff, although he is no longer a Jag owner (insert cough cough) there is a little button at the bottom right that says "Thanks" mouse over it in a post that he helped you on (a couple of times) and click! Even though most of us are modest, I know it would make me feel better!
I do hope that Solon Jag/LR will fix you up, and don't forget the donuts!
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LOL... Well, I don't know if my visit warrants a great amount of thanks.![Icon Angel](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_angel.gif)
Beyond the following: Olivia let loose a really stinky diaper! Olivia stepped in a big mud puddle, then sat in it. I dropped one of the screws holding the MAF sensor and had to get new ones out of my trunk emergency kit.....
Murphy was out in full force. The only flaw that the car demonstrated was a slight rattle at start up..Nothing to worry about, it's that sound that I hear on many modern cars at initial start up. Other than that, it ran real smooth, and drove fine without a hiccup. That is why a reflash may be needed.
I did hook up the OBDII reader and just got a P1000, meaning that the system readiness monitors are not complete. It was stated that "messing with the MAF" a couple of days previous triggered the "check engine" light. So, that may be all it is.
When I inspected things, I noticed that the breather tube going into the intake hose was not fully seated. Also, the air box cover was not fully attached and the air filter was not fully seated, leaving large gaps. This is the reason I pulled the MAF and inspected it for any signs of dirt or damage.
Other than that, a quick look at things without tearing too much apart looked good. No signs of oil leaks or other issues... But an inspection with the covers off would be a good idea.
So, since a reflash wouldn't hurt, that is why I suggested I give Mike a call at Jaguar Solon. I feel it would be good to have them do one of their full vehicle inspections and a trans update... I look at it this way, it pretty much rules out the torque converter. That doesn't come and go.
You know darn well that if we lived close, there would be more "mutual garage time"... Followed by CTS test drives....
Heck, Aidan would be in heaven...![Icon Wink](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
Oh, and about those center caps.... I know exactly how they look on a Platinum S Type..
Post some pictures... They are really unusual / rare...
You're welcome. Lets see what kind of Punch List you get from Jaguar Solon.. We may have some things to do over at the Akron garage... Like I said, I'll be happy to show you the things I know since I truly believe that DIY drivers not only save a boat load of money.. You end up knowing your car better than anyone...
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Beyond the following: Olivia let loose a really stinky diaper! Olivia stepped in a big mud puddle, then sat in it. I dropped one of the screws holding the MAF sensor and had to get new ones out of my trunk emergency kit.....
Murphy was out in full force. The only flaw that the car demonstrated was a slight rattle at start up..Nothing to worry about, it's that sound that I hear on many modern cars at initial start up. Other than that, it ran real smooth, and drove fine without a hiccup. That is why a reflash may be needed.
I did hook up the OBDII reader and just got a P1000, meaning that the system readiness monitors are not complete. It was stated that "messing with the MAF" a couple of days previous triggered the "check engine" light. So, that may be all it is.
When I inspected things, I noticed that the breather tube going into the intake hose was not fully seated. Also, the air box cover was not fully attached and the air filter was not fully seated, leaving large gaps. This is the reason I pulled the MAF and inspected it for any signs of dirt or damage.
Other than that, a quick look at things without tearing too much apart looked good. No signs of oil leaks or other issues... But an inspection with the covers off would be a good idea.
So, since a reflash wouldn't hurt, that is why I suggested I give Mike a call at Jaguar Solon. I feel it would be good to have them do one of their full vehicle inspections and a trans update... I look at it this way, it pretty much rules out the torque converter. That doesn't come and go.
Jeff, it was extremely generous of you to go out of your way to help out cyber, even to make a house call,,,, (ummm I think I need an opinion on some center caps, can you swing by and take a look)?
I do hope that Solon Jag/LR will fix you up, and don't forget the donuts!
![Smile](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I do hope that Solon Jag/LR will fix you up, and don't forget the donuts!
Heck, Aidan would be in heaven...
![Icon Wink](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
Oh, and about those center caps.... I know exactly how they look on a Platinum S Type..
![Icon Angel](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_angel.gif)
You're welcome. Lets see what kind of Punch List you get from Jaguar Solon.. We may have some things to do over at the Akron garage... Like I said, I'll be happy to show you the things I know since I truly believe that DIY drivers not only save a boat load of money.. You end up knowing your car better than anyone...
Last edited by JOsworth; 04-11-2011 at 06:31 AM. Reason: sounded like I dropped the screw in the intake...
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Thanks JOsworth for stopping by.
For everyone else. I checked for vacuum seals after JOsworth left and there does not appear to be any. The problem is the issue I reported did not occur when JOsworth was over inspecting the car, ans since I recently had messed with MAF we were unable to get any new codes as well.
However, the temperature today has been 81 degrees and I think that is part of the reason the problem did not occur. JOsworth and I both seem to think that the problem is the TSB S307-14 and it needs flashed. The temperature also seems to add to that hypothesis in my mind anyway based on other posts regarding the problem being affected by a temperature range as well. JOsworth is hooking me up with a name and number of the manager of the Cleveland Jaguar to have it inspected and reflashed. Thanks again JOsworth.
For everyone else. I checked for vacuum seals after JOsworth left and there does not appear to be any. The problem is the issue I reported did not occur when JOsworth was over inspecting the car, ans since I recently had messed with MAF we were unable to get any new codes as well.
However, the temperature today has been 81 degrees and I think that is part of the reason the problem did not occur. JOsworth and I both seem to think that the problem is the TSB S307-14 and it needs flashed. The temperature also seems to add to that hypothesis in my mind anyway based on other posts regarding the problem being affected by a temperature range as well. JOsworth is hooking me up with a name and number of the manager of the Cleveland Jaguar to have it inspected and reflashed. Thanks again JOsworth.
Good luck!
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***OOPS! I type-o'd. It should be S307-17, my humble apologies!***
Here are the North American versions, along with the ROW bulleitn cyberpanther referred to. For some reason, they refused to use the word "surge" in the North American market, but we all knew that was also part of the issue.
Cheers,
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i know with my car, that the 250 rpm change while slightly hitting the acclerator was in fact my torque converter. No codes were stored either when that was going on. just saying.... i would have to go search for my posts about what it was doing. March/April of 2009 i do believe it was in.
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Hey no problem, shoot me an e-mail jeff03ex@yahoo.com . It's supposed to be warmer this weekend! We can look it over.. To be honest, I really think it's a bad sensor or something loose. We can hook my scan tool up and see if it shows anything.. Your other post about it being "better" then getting worse makes me think something is not sealed properly...
You just have to promise not to laugh at the fact that I have a Chrysler now... LOL
You just have to promise not to laugh at the fact that I have a Chrysler now... LOL
Take care,
George
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Actually big enough that I can actually bring Olivia's super deluxe stroller with me... So, If you go in June you'll see it..
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ARGH!!
I just went and washed my car and on the way home and I had to floor it as someone cut me off. When I did the RPMs went up to 6000 RPMS and when I released the gas the RPMs were not coming down (they were coming down very very slow) and the engine was reving heavily. Since the RPMs were coming down slowly I thought if I gave it a little more gas when the RPMS were around 5500 it might switch gears, but it did not and stayed in the same gear and the RPMs jumped back up to 6000 (no lights at all).
I do not have the money to take it the Jaguar dealer until the end of the month as I get paid monthly. Any ideas what this might be as it no longer seems like a simple reflash. Could it be the Torque Converter after all or something else?
Thanks again
I just went and washed my car and on the way home and I had to floor it as someone cut me off. When I did the RPMs went up to 6000 RPMS and when I released the gas the RPMs were not coming down (they were coming down very very slow) and the engine was reving heavily. Since the RPMs were coming down slowly I thought if I gave it a little more gas when the RPMS were around 5500 it might switch gears, but it did not and stayed in the same gear and the RPMs jumped back up to 6000 (no lights at all).
I do not have the money to take it the Jaguar dealer until the end of the month as I get paid monthly. Any ideas what this might be as it no longer seems like a simple reflash. Could it be the Torque Converter after all or something else?
Thanks again
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Cyber: Don't panic! Sorry it took a while to jump back on this. Been a crazy week... Ends up Olivia's "stinky diaper" was only the beginning. The kids have been switching up being sick.. I hope your week has been better.
Talked to Mike today at Jaguar Cleveland... After they gave me crap for getting rid of my S Type, we talked about yours. They don't think it's anything more than a software update. They said to call them and set up an appointment. They promised to not rake you over the coals...LOL.
They went through some of the symptoms of the software issues that come up on these. The RPM fluctuation is one, another is not upshifting or downshifting when it should. Based on the limited seat time I spent in the car, I don't think you have anything more than that going on.
If you like, let me know if you want to stop by one evening and we can go for a drive out on Rt8 and see where it is shifting. My 05 every now and then would hold on to a gear when I'd really tromp on it, even after lifting. Again, these things can be temperamental and do some silly stuff. It took me a while after getting mine to be able to distinguish what is normal and what is an issue.
This forum and Jaguar Cleveland helped me the most. One of the great things (in my opinion) about Jaguar Cleveland is that they talk to you, not at you. They will explain why it does some of the things you are explaining. They will also tell you if there are things you should take care of on the car without scaring you into having them do it. They gave me a rough cost of doing a full inspection and software update.
So, send me a PM about getting together and we can talk about getting it looked at. I think you need to do it sooner than later, just to save your sanity. Oh, and stop reading to much into other threads (the one about the failed TCM). That has hardly happened to anyone with a 2003. Not saying it doesn't happen, just that a majority of people on here have had no problem getting their cars updated.
Talked to Mike today at Jaguar Cleveland... After they gave me crap for getting rid of my S Type, we talked about yours. They don't think it's anything more than a software update. They said to call them and set up an appointment. They promised to not rake you over the coals...LOL.
They went through some of the symptoms of the software issues that come up on these. The RPM fluctuation is one, another is not upshifting or downshifting when it should. Based on the limited seat time I spent in the car, I don't think you have anything more than that going on.
If you like, let me know if you want to stop by one evening and we can go for a drive out on Rt8 and see where it is shifting. My 05 every now and then would hold on to a gear when I'd really tromp on it, even after lifting. Again, these things can be temperamental and do some silly stuff. It took me a while after getting mine to be able to distinguish what is normal and what is an issue.
This forum and Jaguar Cleveland helped me the most. One of the great things (in my opinion) about Jaguar Cleveland is that they talk to you, not at you. They will explain why it does some of the things you are explaining. They will also tell you if there are things you should take care of on the car without scaring you into having them do it. They gave me a rough cost of doing a full inspection and software update.
So, send me a PM about getting together and we can talk about getting it looked at. I think you need to do it sooner than later, just to save your sanity. Oh, and stop reading to much into other threads (the one about the failed TCM). That has hardly happened to anyone with a 2003. Not saying it doesn't happen, just that a majority of people on here have had no problem getting their cars updated.
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