S Type Fuel Pump and Sender Question
#1
S Type Fuel Pump and Sender Question
Hi Everyone,
I have a 2001 S Type 4.0 and it has the typical issue of running out of fuel when down to a 1/4 tank. after searching and reading all the threads regarding this I understand that this will typically be a problem with the Fuel pump on the primary side (passenger) of the gas tank. I am also understandfing that the Fuel pump is located on the passenger side and the secondary unit is located on the drivers side. What I am not understanding is why everyone keeps refrerring to the secondary unit as a pump or a "jet pump" I have taken the drivers side unit out and the only mechanical part that i can see it contains is a 2 wire sender. Where is this "jet pump" that everyone keeps refrerring to that transfers fuel back to the primary side?
Thanks in advance
I have a 2001 S Type 4.0 and it has the typical issue of running out of fuel when down to a 1/4 tank. after searching and reading all the threads regarding this I understand that this will typically be a problem with the Fuel pump on the primary side (passenger) of the gas tank. I am also understandfing that the Fuel pump is located on the passenger side and the secondary unit is located on the drivers side. What I am not understanding is why everyone keeps refrerring to the secondary unit as a pump or a "jet pump" I have taken the drivers side unit out and the only mechanical part that i can see it contains is a 2 wire sender. Where is this "jet pump" that everyone keeps refrerring to that transfers fuel back to the primary side?
Thanks in advance
#2
Hi there, I recently replaced my pump and sending units on my 2001 3.0.
I’m no expert but I read this somewhere.
The jet pump is the name of the device that creates and maintains a vacuum in the fuel lines which causes the transfer of fuel across the saddle due to fuel pump pressure.
When the tank is full the sender on the left does the level detecting, from half tank and below the right sender does the level detecting.
I’m no expert but I read this somewhere.
The jet pump is the name of the device that creates and maintains a vacuum in the fuel lines which causes the transfer of fuel across the saddle due to fuel pump pressure.
When the tank is full the sender on the left does the level detecting, from half tank and below the right sender does the level detecting.
#3
It sounds like you have fuel on the left side that will not be 'picked-up' by the electric pump so you run out of available fuel.
I saw this when I worked at the dealer a few times. A customer would 'run out of gas' and the level indicator says there is fuel in the tank.
A wrecker would load the car on a flat bed and when the car came into the shop, it would start normally. (the car being tilted to load on the truck would 'slosh' fuel onto the electric pump side)
We would replace the 'jet-pump' and send the car 'down-the-road'.
The jet pump just continually transfers fuel from the left side to the right side to keep the electric pump submerged. The senders are tied together to send an 'average' to the gauge. Technically the left side could be completely empty and the right side would have all the fuel left in the tank available to the electric pump.
I saw this when I worked at the dealer a few times. A customer would 'run out of gas' and the level indicator says there is fuel in the tank.
A wrecker would load the car on a flat bed and when the car came into the shop, it would start normally. (the car being tilted to load on the truck would 'slosh' fuel onto the electric pump side)
We would replace the 'jet-pump' and send the car 'down-the-road'.
The jet pump just continually transfers fuel from the left side to the right side to keep the electric pump submerged. The senders are tied together to send an 'average' to the gauge. Technically the left side could be completely empty and the right side would have all the fuel left in the tank available to the electric pump.
Last edited by motorcarman; 01-23-2023 at 07:45 AM.
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A picture borrowed from Ebay:
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#7
More details on the jet pumps here, see page 40:
http://www.jagrepair.com/images/Elec...troduction.pdf
There's not much to a jet pump itself. It's just a restrictor inside a tee, designed to create low pressure at the pickup.
http://www.jagrepair.com/images/Elec...troduction.pdf
There's not much to a jet pump itself. It's just a restrictor inside a tee, designed to create low pressure at the pickup.
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#8
Finally! Thank you so much. There is so much useless content on the Internet its nice to have something thats clear and concise. I genuinely appreciate your time and answer. I noticed that there a lot of new Fuel Pumps on Ebay (for less than $100) but I havent seen a new one of these yet. Would you have a part or model number that I could use to search more easily?
#9
Take a look here:
https://parts.jaguarlandroverclassic.../brand/jaguar/
Find the right category by VIN and engine. The side with the electric pump is called the "sender and pump assembly". The side with the jet pump is called the "sender and outlet tube assembly". I think that's what you need. Once you get an OEM number, you can search that way. The jet pump itself probably never wears out, as it has no moving parts. The check valves or pressure relief valve may fail, but I don't believe they are available separately. You may have to get the complete "sender and outlet tube assembly".
Even if Jaguar shows it as discontinued, you will probably find other sources still have it. eBay, for example, has a lot of stuff like that. Dealers clean out their old stock and guys buy it surplus and make it available.
In case you have any trouble with those miserable couplings (and release collars) at the fuel tank, be sure to see this thread for an easy workaround before causing any damage:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...essure-265522/
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Zalastar (01-25-2023)
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Thanks again for everyones help. There was a cracked hose on the pump side as well as the inlet/outlet fittings not having all their components, so I just replaced the pump with a new one. The driver side unit had a broken OEM plastic hose so I just replaced that with a nice fuel line and clamps. Pretty certain between the two units the return line just wasnt holding pressure. everything works now and its the first time I was able to drive the car with less than an 1/8 of a tank and not run out of fuel.
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