S-Type with manual Transmission
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Does anyone know if the S-Type was available in the US with a Manual Transmission? I am interesting in building a 2000 ish model year Jaguar for track use. It can't have AWD per the rules so the xtype is out. (I have a manual xtype 3.0) Per the rules it must also have been available as a manual from the factory in the US to be eligble to be classified.
Thanks for your ideas and suggestions! If you happen to know of a 2000-2004 model that is not AWD and came in a manual please let me know the model and year and maybe a link to the car specifications!
Stephen
Thanks for your ideas and suggestions! If you happen to know of a 2000-2004 model that is not AWD and came in a manual please let me know the model and year and maybe a link to the car specifications!
Stephen
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theyre rare but they did have US cars with them:
Heres the only example on autotrader right now, the funny thing is they are located on west side of orlando about an hour and a half from my river house, i went there about a year ago to look at a Toureg they had with the premium package (air suspension and everything else) for my brother since they are hard to find with that. Seemed like nice people with clean cars overall. Not sure if they sell any with paintwork.
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false
Heres the only example on autotrader right now, the funny thing is they are located on west side of orlando about an hour and a half from my river house, i went there about a year ago to look at a Toureg they had with the premium package (air suspension and everything else) for my brother since they are hard to find with that. Seemed like nice people with clean cars overall. Not sure if they sell any with paintwork.
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false
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I have a 2003 with a manual transmission. The manual was availabe for both standard trim and the sport trim. I believe the manual was available from 1999 through 2003. The manual is a Getrag, and one disadvantage is that Getrag nor Jaguar support internal parts for the transmission. That being said, mine has been trouble free for 70K miles.
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This is Fantastic news! I actually found a salvage one possibly in a flood for about 3K. Perfect to gut out all the interior anyway and turn into a racecar
Looks like Arden sells a computer chip and then all we need to do is design some suspension! I am not going to purchase the salvage one at this point since the car isn't classified yet.
For now the project is on hold until I get the car classified. Once it is classified I will be going forward with it and will probably ask all of you for help figuring things out! It will be prepped for SCCA ITR class rules (www.SCCA.com)
In the time being help me look for one that is slightly damaged or possibly stolen it doesn't need windows or even if the interior is trashed let me know! (The only thing that will stay inside the car is the dashboard, and airbags will all be taken out) If you find a great deal send me a message! The cheaper the donor car the better so we can spend the money on the parts that matter! I will update everyone here with updates!
Thank-you everyone for posting... looks like this forum is pretty active nowadays which is pretty cool!
Look out BMW's the cat is loose!
StephenBlethen@RSTPerformance.bizland.com
Proud owner of my "entry level Jaguar"... 2002 Xtype 3.0 Manual
PS: Everyone is running BMW's and that's where I want to be different. Back 10yrs ago I built an Audi and everyone said I was crazy... In it's class (SCCA ITB) I have won 2 championships (1 last year in the TEAMDI Pro-IT series) and this year I am currently tied for 1! I like to be different and I like to drive cars that I love. Being a Jaguar and Audi lover at heart these are my only 2 options. Jag just happens to be the only one of the 2 that makes a RWD car
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For now the project is on hold until I get the car classified. Once it is classified I will be going forward with it and will probably ask all of you for help figuring things out! It will be prepped for SCCA ITR class rules (www.SCCA.com)
In the time being help me look for one that is slightly damaged or possibly stolen it doesn't need windows or even if the interior is trashed let me know! (The only thing that will stay inside the car is the dashboard, and airbags will all be taken out) If you find a great deal send me a message! The cheaper the donor car the better so we can spend the money on the parts that matter! I will update everyone here with updates!
Thank-you everyone for posting... looks like this forum is pretty active nowadays which is pretty cool!
Look out BMW's the cat is loose!
StephenBlethen@RSTPerformance.bizland.com
Proud owner of my "entry level Jaguar"... 2002 Xtype 3.0 Manual
PS: Everyone is running BMW's and that's where I want to be different. Back 10yrs ago I built an Audi and everyone said I was crazy... In it's class (SCCA ITB) I have won 2 championships (1 last year in the TEAMDI Pro-IT series) and this year I am currently tied for 1! I like to be different and I like to drive cars that I love. Being a Jaguar and Audi lover at heart these are my only 2 options. Jag just happens to be the only one of the 2 that makes a RWD car
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I have a 2003 with a manual transmission. The manual was availabe for both standard trim and the sport trim. I believe the manual was available from 1999 through 2003. The manual is a Getrag, and one disadvantage is that Getrag nor Jaguar support internal parts for the transmission. That being said, mine has been trouble free for 70K miles.
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I find it really sad that manually trannys r a dying breed. A lot of people are offering only autos or dual clutch paddle shifters. But those paddle shifters still aren't the same to people who like rowing their own gears. I certainly hope BMW continues to offer the 5-series in stick since Audi stopped doing that on the current A6. Jaguar will probably never offer it again. Benz offers it only on the entry level models and will probably stop that too. Even Ferrari will probably only offer F1 gearboxes from now on. Just look at the new California, 599, etc. F430 was probably the last one with stick. All that is left is BMW and Porsche really. =(
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The original poster said that they were building the track car, and that the rules stated that the car had to be available in that config. I hope that is true. Please don't track an original S Type stick. I don't know the numbers, but I bet US spec manual cars are rarer than the STR!
Thanks again for all the feedback.
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I would like to build a car to the ITR specs for SCCA competition. You mention "please don't track an original S Type stick. How come? Just becuase it is a valuable car or because it will be impossible to find parts for it? AS far as I am concerned I would basically be giving a home and a second life to a car that would otherwise be crushed. Since the car would be completly gutted and fitted with a rollcage, drivers seat ect no interior other than the dash would stay. Even the engine would probably be rebuilt before we hit the track. '
Thanks again for all the feedback.
Thanks again for all the feedback.
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Well strange as it seems I have a love for Audis and Jaguars and have my entire life. I have run in SCCA for 10+yrs and been a member for about 25. My father has run in SCCA as long as I can remember. I have been running a 1984 Audi Coupe in Improved Touring B competition for the last 10 yrs and the car is simply getting old. Within the next year I would like to build something new and Improved Touring R is the fastest class in the SCCA Improved Touring catagory. In my geographic location SCCA Improved Touring is by far the best wheel to wheel competition for Amatuer Road Racing without getting into Big bucks running in Grand Am, Koni series, or any of the other Televised racing series. I would love to stick with Audi but AWD is not allowed nor are Turbos. If I am going to spend the money and build something new it has to be a car brand that I love and I also really want RWD. That leaves Audi on the shelf and Jag as the only possibility due to the RWD "want" or "desire". I know earlier you mentioned BMW but to be honest almost all the other cars are BMW 3 series and I don't want to drive something everyone already has. I like to be different and I am not a BMW lover or enthusiest. So to make a long story short I want something I would enjoy having and I can't think of a better way to scratch a BMW than with a luxury Cat paw!
I know I am crazy but I figure if a few of you are on my side and enjoy the thrill of my attempt then I might just go for it
Start looking for a stolen S Type with a trashed interior for cheap $$ preferibly one that runs and drives!
Stephen
Links to the series I am running in. I am currently tied for 1st in class in the ITB class! and I won the ITB championship last year!
(SCCA ITR is the class I am going to submit for the S-Type)
www.PROITSeries.com
www.scca.com
I know I am crazy but I figure if a few of you are on my side and enjoy the thrill of my attempt then I might just go for it
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Stephen
Links to the series I am running in. I am currently tied for 1st in class in the ITB class! and I won the ITB championship last year!
(SCCA ITR is the class I am going to submit for the S-Type)
www.PROITSeries.com
www.scca.com
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Well strange as it seems I have a love for Audis and Jaguars and have my entire life. I have run in SCCA for 10+yrs and been a member for about 25. My father has run in SCCA as long as I can remember. I have been running a 1984 Audi Coupe in Improved Touring B competition for the last 10 yrs and the car is simply getting old. Within the next year I would like to build something new and Improved Touring R is the fastest class in the SCCA Improved Touring catagory. In my geographic location SCCA Improved Touring is by far the best wheel to wheel competition for Amatuer Road Racing without getting into Big bucks running in Grand Am, Koni series, or any of the other Televised racing series. I would love to stick with Audi but AWD is not allowed nor are Turbos. If I am going to spend the money and build something new it has to be a car brand that I love and I also really want RWD. That leaves Audi on the shelf and Jag as the only possibility due to the RWD "want" or "desire". I know earlier you mentioned BMW but to be honest almost all the other cars are BMW 3 series and I don't want to drive something everyone already has. I like to be different and I am not a BMW lover or enthusiest. So to make a long story short I want something I would enjoy having and I can't think of a better way to scratch a BMW than with a luxury Cat paw!
I know I am crazy but I figure if a few of you are on my side and enjoy the thrill of my attempt then I might just go for it
Start looking for a stolen S Type with a trashed interior for cheap $$ preferibly one that runs and drives!
Stephen
Links to the series I am running in. I am currently tied for 1st in class in the ITB class! and I won the ITB championship last year!
(SCCA ITR is the class I am going to submit for the S-Type)
www.PROITSeries.com
www.scca.com
I know I am crazy but I figure if a few of you are on my side and enjoy the thrill of my attempt then I might just go for it
![Smile](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Stephen
Links to the series I am running in. I am currently tied for 1st in class in the ITB class! and I won the ITB championship last year!
(SCCA ITR is the class I am going to submit for the S-Type)
www.PROITSeries.com
www.scca.com
Last edited by Master Deep; 05-15-2009 at 12:21 AM.
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I would like to build a car to the ITR specs for SCCA competition. You mention "please don't track an original S Type stick. How come? Just becuase it is a valuable car or because it will be impossible to find parts for it? AS far as I am concerned I would basically be giving a home and a second life to a car that would otherwise be crushed. Since the car would be completly gutted and fitted with a rollcage, drivers seat ect no interior other than the dash would stay. Even the engine would probably be rebuilt before we hit the track. '
Thanks again for all the feedback.
Thanks again for all the feedback.
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Jeff,
As long as its the same model year than I can change or modify it as long as it is modified 100% to what the factory would do. What concerns me about converting it is that sensors, wiring and computer changes that would have to be made. that can quickly add up to thousands of dollars especially since I know absolutly nothing about the S-Type. Anyone live in the NE that wants to help me out
Any knowledge will help! I had a few knowledgable people run it through the car classification process and it looks like the weight would be 3100lbs... that's a ton of gutting to be done! Especially since a complete rollcage with gussets needs to be added!
I am going to visit the dealer to get all the detailes needed to fill out the paperwork to see if it will be classified. Unless anyone has a copy of the manual and I can e-mail you the info I need to gather![Smile](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Again thanks for all the interest... I really want to make this happen in the next year!
Stephen
As long as its the same model year than I can change or modify it as long as it is modified 100% to what the factory would do. What concerns me about converting it is that sensors, wiring and computer changes that would have to be made. that can quickly add up to thousands of dollars especially since I know absolutly nothing about the S-Type. Anyone live in the NE that wants to help me out
![Smile](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I am going to visit the dealer to get all the detailes needed to fill out the paperwork to see if it will be classified. Unless anyone has a copy of the manual and I can e-mail you the info I need to gather
![Smile](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Again thanks for all the interest... I really want to make this happen in the next year!
Stephen
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theyre rare but they did have US cars with them:
Heres the only example on autotrader right now, the funny thing is they are located on west side of orlando about an hour and a half from my river house, i went there about a year ago to look at a Toureg they had with the premium package (air suspension and everything else) for my brother since they are hard to find with that. Seemed like nice people with clean cars overall. Not sure if they sell any with paintwork.
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false
Heres the only example on autotrader right now, the funny thing is they are located on west side of orlando about an hour and a half from my river house, i went there about a year ago to look at a Toureg they had with the premium package (air suspension and everything else) for my brother since they are hard to find with that. Seemed like nice people with clean cars overall. Not sure if they sell any with paintwork.
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false
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That would be awesome! But (I know always a but
) The 4.2 makes way to much power for the class I am interested in. Its mostly cars around 200HP (BMW 328 and 330 are the most popular cars) The 240hp that the 3.0 has is actually on the High end of the scale.
Other rules prohibit anything if it wasn't available from the factory in the US market
They DO allow any modification to the exhaust and Computer which I notice ARDEN has some plug and play stuff in that department
Maybe they would like me to demo it on track in the US for them ![Smile](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Stephen
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Other rules prohibit anything if it wasn't available from the factory in the US market
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Stephen