The saga continues with my new-to-me '05 S-type - A/C blowing HOT air
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Hello,
A few questions:
1. If the control module needs work, does anyone have the instructions on removing it from the car?
2. Is the control module providing a signal, ground or voltage to the solenoid valve?
3. A diode is mentioned for protection when doing the control module work. does anyone have the instructions on which way it face? What is the type and number of diode (ie. IN4001)?
4. Considering the control module may also be defective, would it be feasible to verify or repair the control module first before installing the new DCCV?
Thanks for any and all advice.
A few questions:
1. If the control module needs work, does anyone have the instructions on removing it from the car?
2. Is the control module providing a signal, ground or voltage to the solenoid valve?
3. A diode is mentioned for protection when doing the control module work. does anyone have the instructions on which way it face? What is the type and number of diode (ie. IN4001)?
4. Considering the control module may also be defective, would it be feasible to verify or repair the control module first before installing the new DCCV?
Thanks for any and all advice.
2. The DCCV is powered by Transistors to regulate heat flow. It provides +12v to open the valves. What happens which hurts the climate control module is as follows. The OUTPUT lines of the transistor move to ground (to open the valve). +12v is provided to the valve by the center pin / wire in the connector. When some DCCV's fail, they short the pins in the connector. And you put +12v directly on the Ground output of the transistior. For SOME reason, Jag engineers never thought this would happen, so now you have a dead shorted transistor. Granted there is a 10amp fuse on the DCCV +12v supply (also combined with the A/C compressor coil +12v supply), but unfortunately the trace from the transistor output to the pin on the back of the CCM cant handle the 10A and burn up (act as a fuse).
3. I never sourced a Specific diode, under NORMAL DCCV operation The current shouldn't exceed 1 Amp so any 1A diode should work. The objective being to isolate the output so only negative can pass. Cathode facing the DCCV.
4. I'd swap the DCCV first. No way for a GOOD DCCV to be damaged by a damaged control panel, BUT if the control panel is damaged, its BECAUSE of a bad DCCV.
I don't think the control panel is damaged as often as people think. I've seen 50 guys come on here, no heat or constant heat on one side etc, tell them to swap a DCCV and it's fine. The DCCV has to fail in a very specific way to case this damage to the control panel.
Take care,
George
#23
I have the same problem in 2003 s-type 4.0..changed the heater valve, started the car blew cold for like ten minutes then back to hot air...can anyone help
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I am trouble shooting some what the same issue.
I switched out the DCCV and sent the Dual Climate Control Module out to have a Diode replaced last year, it worked fine all summer. Over the winter my Mechanic son did some oil leak work on the Princess and saw that the A/C compressor was leaking oil so he installed a new one last week. He had difficulty getting the compressor to come on/ power up at the shop. It finally worked and I took it home. It is now doing the same thing. I can hear it occasionally turn on and it will run for about 30 minutes then cycle off and not come on again. I am checking the 3 Evap sensors in the dash in hopes that is the problem if not I will do the voltage tests to see if it is the DCCV. The Dual Climate Control Module should not be the issue since it has the one way Diode. Any thing else I should check?
I switched out the DCCV and sent the Dual Climate Control Module out to have a Diode replaced last year, it worked fine all summer. Over the winter my Mechanic son did some oil leak work on the Princess and saw that the A/C compressor was leaking oil so he installed a new one last week. He had difficulty getting the compressor to come on/ power up at the shop. It finally worked and I took it home. It is now doing the same thing. I can hear it occasionally turn on and it will run for about 30 minutes then cycle off and not come on again. I am checking the 3 Evap sensors in the dash in hopes that is the problem if not I will do the voltage tests to see if it is the DCCV. The Dual Climate Control Module should not be the issue since it has the one way Diode. Any thing else I should check?
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No it was acting up over the winter (which was not an issue till we started having 80 degree days in March in Atlanta LOL). The compressor had been over charged by a different repair shop and blew the seals and was leaking oil. We replaced it before it flew apart. We thought is was just that the system was seizing up.
Now that all was replaced it will start intermittently/seldom, blow ice cold air then cycle off and will not start again. It seems to start if I am not moving and it is sitting in the drive running. I have gotten to only one of the cabin evap sensors, divers side, and will see if I can get to the 2 behind the glove box this weekend. The drivers sensor was filthy so I expect the same for the other 2. I will change out the cabin air filter too while I am at it.
I am returning it to my son's place next week to have all the voltage checked and see if it's more than I know how to fix.
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NEW to forum- same hot air problem '06 Stype 3.0
Gentlemen, i am new to this forum. having the same issue with
blistering hot air flowing out of all a/c vents. really hot.
I bought the ford /Lincoln Ls heater valve and put it in myself.
I installed a new thermostat as it is part of a large conglomerate
of hoses and Just bought the whole part.
not one iota of help. still blows blistering hot air.
so, from what i can tell i need either the contol module or
the possibly the wiring harness to the dccv.
any ideas?
best regards from Texas , USA
Andrew
blistering hot air flowing out of all a/c vents. really hot.
I bought the ford /Lincoln Ls heater valve and put it in myself.
I installed a new thermostat as it is part of a large conglomerate
of hoses and Just bought the whole part.
not one iota of help. still blows blistering hot air.
so, from what i can tell i need either the contol module or
the possibly the wiring harness to the dccv.
any ideas?
best regards from Texas , USA
Andrew
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On a side note after replacing my DCCV and replacing the track in the control module the fault reappeared a few weeks later. This was due to corrosion at the connector located under the bumper just where water and dust can get to it when driving Stupid place to put it.
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