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Old 01-12-2014 | 04:02 PM
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Hi Guys.

I'm looking for some advice.

recently picked up my second S type 3.0 V6 who just like my first one is a year 2000 car.
drives great but has some small issues and would like your thought's and idea's on it.

cruise controll and radio controll on the steering wheel:

radio controll: the station up and down button on the side work
the volume up and down has issues sometimes works but most of the time it changes the station instead of the volume.

Cruise control: the cruise on or of button at the side works info display shows cruise controll is on and/or off
The set of buttons on the front of that switch don't seem to be working the way they should so I can't set the car to cruise.

I get the feeling it's the switches on the steering wheel and not some other part of the speed controll system.

Has any one experienced something similar ???
 
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Old 01-12-2014 | 04:59 PM
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Sounds like the "clock spring" do a search.
 
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Old 01-12-2014 | 05:45 PM
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Thanks for your reply, did a search and found this:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...val-faq-61287/

sounds like this clock spring can cause a whole set of issues.
 
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Old 01-13-2014 | 08:17 AM
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sometimes cleaning it can fix it but id recommend changing it once you have gone to the trouble of removing it.
 
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Old 01-13-2014 | 10:59 AM
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The volume buttons may work via resistors. If the contacts get dirty then the resistances are wrong and will be understood wrongly. JTIS has electrical guide to help. If it's this, switch cleaner may work.
 
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Old 01-13-2014 | 12:20 PM
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Yes. Classic Clock spring symptom.

I agree about getting a new one. Don't mess with pulling it out and cleaning. It does wear every time the steering wheel moves. Unless you want to look at it? It's longer than you think!
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Old 01-13-2014 | 02:52 PM
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The volume buttons may work via resistors. If the contacts get dirty then the resistances are wrong and will be understood wrongly. JTIS has electrical guide to help. If it's this, switch cleaner may work.
+1 on trying to clean them first. Make sure you use a spray electronics cleaner, not WD40 or the like. This is the same stuff you would use to fix a scratchy volume knob on an electric guitar. I'd spray the cleaner into the faulty switches and work the switches back & forth. The cleaner evaporates rather quickly so do one switch at a time. If this doesn't fix the problem, go to Plan B (disassembling the wheel).
 
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Old 01-13-2014 | 03:04 PM
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I have a donor car of which I know the clock spring and the switches are OK. so tomorrow I'm going to take the clock spring out of the donor car and replace it.
I won't change the switches they are mounted to the steering wheel and can be exchanged quick enough.

I'll try and remember to take some photo's
I have JTIS installed on my 64 bit windows 8.1 computer so will look in to it when needed.

I must say this forum is very good to have around when it comes to resolving strange problems.
 
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Old 01-13-2014 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Jurgen Dimmers

radio controll:

the volume up and down has issues sometimes works but most of the time it changes the station instead of the volume.


Has any one experienced something similar ???
I had the exact same situation on my '02, but only when I was driving. The buttons always worked fine for my wife. After much head scratching, I finally realized I was pressing the outer edge of the buttons, while she was pressing the inner edge, closer to the center of the wheel.

After that, I made it a point to press the inner edge and everything was fine. After a few months, I tried pressing the outer edge again out of curiosity and now they seem to work fine no matter where pressed. That seems to have cured the problem.

Never had any issues with the cruise buttons. They didn't have much wear on them so suspect the previous owner didn't use the cruise very much.

If you do try contact cleaner in the switches, make sure it's safe for plastic. I don't care to discuss how I know this.
 
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Old 01-14-2014 | 09:43 AM
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I took it out of the donor jaguar this afternoon and noticed it was a bit different from the how to FAQ where it is shown on a 2003 S Type.

Will try and post photo's later today.
 
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Old 01-14-2014 | 02:36 PM
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Firstset the steering wheel control to manual and make sure the steering wheel is all the way out and down. than disconnect the battery.
I didn't do that so had to hook up the battery again while I was taking the parts out.


In the back of the steering wheel are two holes covered by round plastic plates, they hide two 8mm bolds for the airbag ( you can see the holes in the steering wheel back plate. Take the bolds out and carefully pul the airbag from the steering wheel. There's a little connector slide back the yellow lock press two little pins on the side and disconnect from airbag.



next step 8 torx bolds inside the steering wheel 4 for the controll buttons unscrew these completely and 4 that hold the horn assembly to the steering wheel. they only need to be loosened than take out the buttons and assembly in one peace.



Next remove two phillips screws holding the steering column covers and take them out. disconnect all the connectors you see



and your already at the part needed the clock spring, I used a tie rap two secure it just in case.



Unscrew the four torx bolds attaching the spring clock to the steering column



It looks like there are two black connectors on the spring clock but those two are fixed, you have to remove the clock with all the wiring you see running in to a black box that is clipped against the steering column.
unclip that box, remove 3 connectors at the left side (big black, grey and small black) and take it out.



Now carefully slide the clock spring of the steering column and your done. it's out.
follow reverse order to put it back in.
 
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Old 01-15-2014 | 05:59 PM
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Nice work! Thanks for documenting this process with great pics. You've convinced me this is absolutely something I should never attempt.
 
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