Still unstable RPM's after new spark plugs and coils
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After a limp mode and spark plug/coil misfire message, took my 03 6cylinder in to the Jag shop in Portland and they replaced 3 coils and all spark plugs. Said only three needed to be replaced and they were on the side that required for the motor cover to be removed. Got it home, still does about the same thing. I did notice a bit more of a kick when I step on the accelerator, but holding the accelerator down, I carefully watch the rpms go from 750 up to 2000 and iratic in between while carefully holding the accelerator down. I'm bummed that the Jag shop couldn't figure this out after seeing the codes and their test drive before I picked it up and paid them $670! Called them and am taking it back in. What could it be? I'm thinking fuel filter/fuel pump? It's not missing, its just not holding rpms. I don't really notice it much while driving at higher freeway speeds, but once in a while the tranny will either **** too quick or too late,,,and I'm thinking the motor confuses it because of unsteady/erratic RPMs
! Any ideas before I get it back to the Jag Shop for a diagnostic in a couple of days? Appreciate any ideas or suggestions.
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Interesting, the Jag Shop said the codes showed mis-firing and bad coils on 3 cylynders. This always irritates me when I'm the 'novis' and trust the shop to replace what they diagnose and then, it doesn't even fix the issue $670 later! Of course, new plugs doesn't hurt at 101K's as well as three new coils, I recon but it didn't fix the problem that I took it in for. I can't believe, if they put the car on their computer diagnostics that they didn't get some kind of a notice of irregular RPMs and poor fuel/or air management. What's a guy to do? The mechanic who test drove it after the repair said it run wonderfully! I noticed it about 2 miles from the shop, should have turned around instead of driving the 1/1/2 hours back to my home in Salem with the outside temp at 103! Oh well. I'm taking it back and they had better not charge me to diagnose it or it will be my last visit there. I'll keep you posted. Thanks for your suggestion.
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A common cause is a vacuum (air) leak. Often a perished PCV elbow (Search will find you details).
If you can post the actual codes it would help. One thing is that the way the cylinders are numbered CHANGED so it is possible the shop don't realise that and used the wrong way. The details are in this PDF https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/a...4&d=1269505095
Another issue is that the PCM figures out the misfiring cylinder as best it can but it's a challenge for it to see the tiny differences and track them back to the right cylinders, especially if more than one is or appears to be misfiring.
Unless you have a lot more than 70K miles on the car, it's far more likely a coil not a plug problem (if it's not a vacuum leak). They can use a smoke machine to look for leaks.
If you can post the actual codes it would help. One thing is that the way the cylinders are numbered CHANGED so it is possible the shop don't realise that and used the wrong way. The details are in this PDF https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/a...4&d=1269505095
Another issue is that the PCM figures out the misfiring cylinder as best it can but it's a challenge for it to see the tiny differences and track them back to the right cylinders, especially if more than one is or appears to be misfiring.
Unless you have a lot more than 70K miles on the car, it's far more likely a coil not a plug problem (if it's not a vacuum leak). They can use a smoke machine to look for leaks.
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A common cause is a vacuum (air) leak. Often a perished PCV elbow (Search will find you details).
If you can post the actual codes it would help. One thing is that the way the cylinders are numbered CHANGED so it is possible the shop don't realise that and used the wrong way. The details are in this PDF https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/a...4&d=1269505095
Another issue is that the PCM figures out the misfiring cylinder as best it can but it's a challenge for it to see the tiny differences and track them back to the right cylinders, especially if more than one is or appears to be misfiring.
Unless you have a lot more than 70K miles on the car, it's far more likely a coil not a plug problem (if it's not a vacuum leak). They can use a smoke machine to look for leaks.
If you can post the actual codes it would help. One thing is that the way the cylinders are numbered CHANGED so it is possible the shop don't realise that and used the wrong way. The details are in this PDF https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/a...4&d=1269505095
Another issue is that the PCM figures out the misfiring cylinder as best it can but it's a challenge for it to see the tiny differences and track them back to the right cylinders, especially if more than one is or appears to be misfiring.
Unless you have a lot more than 70K miles on the car, it's far more likely a coil not a plug problem (if it's not a vacuum leak). They can use a smoke machine to look for leaks.
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