Strong Gas Smell after adding Gas to Tank
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Strong Gas Smell after adding Gas to Tank
We have a Strong Gas Smell after adding Gas to 2005 S Type Jag. We have had it to the Jag. Dealer twice and they replaced the seal. That did not fix the problem. Now they are telling us the Tank needs to be replaced at a cost of $6000. I don't believe that.
I am going to replace the gas cap and see if they does anything.
when we park in Garage, the gas smell is very strong.
What could cause this? Could it be a problem with the gas tank not holding the pressure from somewhere.
ANY IDEAS
I am going to replace the gas cap and see if they does anything.
when we park in Garage, the gas smell is very strong.
What could cause this? Could it be a problem with the gas tank not holding the pressure from somewhere.
ANY IDEAS
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#3
Here is the information about the fuel tank recall.http://repairpal.com/recall/06V418000.
Get your dealer check to see if your car had its fuel tank changed. If not then you may have the possibility of getting it replaced free of charge as it was safety recall.
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2005 S-Type Gas Tank Recall Info
Once again, the above esteemed wizards of the JagForum hit the nail on the head.
Go to this U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration page -
https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls#vehicle
...Scroll down to where it says "Check your vehicle safety". Immediately below that, click "Also search by NHTSA ID" then enter 06V418000 in the dropbox.
This particular recall notice only applies to 2005 US and Canadian S-Types with VIN#s in the range N05049-N52047. Note that there are links to associated TSBs at the bottom of the notice. It reads, in part...
October 31, 2006 NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 06V418000
FUEL TANK SEALS
IF THE AMOUNT OF FUEL IS ABOVE THE FDM, JPM, OR CV APERTURES, FUEL MAY BE DISCHARGED ONTO THE GROUND. FUEL LEAKAGE IN THE PRESENCE OF AN IGNITION SOURCE COULD RESULT IN A FIRE.
NHTSA Campaign Number: 06V418000
Manufacturer: JAGUAR CARS LTD
Components: FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE
Potential Number of Units Affected: 13,655
Summary:
SOME PASSENGER VEHICLES MAY HAVE FUEL TANKS IN WHICH THE FUEL DELIVERY MODULE (FDM), JET PUMP MODULE (JPM), AND/OR CLUSTER VALVE (CV) SEALS ARE NOT PROPERLY RETAINED IN THE FUEL TANK. THIS MAY RESULT IN ILLUMINATION OF THE MALFUNCTION INDICATOR LAMP (MIL), OR A FUEL ODOR.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL INSPECT THE FUEL TANKS TO DETERMINE IF REVISED SEALS MAY BE USED TO REPAIR THE VEHICLE. IF NOT, DEALERS WILL THEN REPLACE THE ENTIRE FUEL TANK ASSEMBLY. DUE TO PROBLEMS IN OBTAINING THE REPLACEMENT FUEL TANKS, THE RECALL BEGAN ON JANUARY 29 THROUGH MARCH 30, 2007. OWNERS MAY CONTACT JAGUAR AT 1-800-452-4827.
Notes:
JAGUAR RECALL NO. R176. CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV
1 Affected Product - JAGUAR S-TYPE 2005
Go to this U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration page -
https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls#vehicle
...Scroll down to where it says "Check your vehicle safety". Immediately below that, click "Also search by NHTSA ID" then enter 06V418000 in the dropbox.
This particular recall notice only applies to 2005 US and Canadian S-Types with VIN#s in the range N05049-N52047. Note that there are links to associated TSBs at the bottom of the notice. It reads, in part...
October 31, 2006 NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 06V418000
FUEL TANK SEALS
IF THE AMOUNT OF FUEL IS ABOVE THE FDM, JPM, OR CV APERTURES, FUEL MAY BE DISCHARGED ONTO THE GROUND. FUEL LEAKAGE IN THE PRESENCE OF AN IGNITION SOURCE COULD RESULT IN A FIRE.
NHTSA Campaign Number: 06V418000
Manufacturer: JAGUAR CARS LTD
Components: FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE
Potential Number of Units Affected: 13,655
Summary:
SOME PASSENGER VEHICLES MAY HAVE FUEL TANKS IN WHICH THE FUEL DELIVERY MODULE (FDM), JET PUMP MODULE (JPM), AND/OR CLUSTER VALVE (CV) SEALS ARE NOT PROPERLY RETAINED IN THE FUEL TANK. THIS MAY RESULT IN ILLUMINATION OF THE MALFUNCTION INDICATOR LAMP (MIL), OR A FUEL ODOR.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL INSPECT THE FUEL TANKS TO DETERMINE IF REVISED SEALS MAY BE USED TO REPAIR THE VEHICLE. IF NOT, DEALERS WILL THEN REPLACE THE ENTIRE FUEL TANK ASSEMBLY. DUE TO PROBLEMS IN OBTAINING THE REPLACEMENT FUEL TANKS, THE RECALL BEGAN ON JANUARY 29 THROUGH MARCH 30, 2007. OWNERS MAY CONTACT JAGUAR AT 1-800-452-4827.
Notes:
JAGUAR RECALL NO. R176. CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV
1 Affected Product - JAGUAR S-TYPE 2005
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First remove the seat and have a look to see if you can see where it is coming from. See if the ring is tight enough but making a tool out of plastic 6 inch drain pipe.
If you do not have this locking ring then.
Go to the local dealer and have them have a look as it may have not been done correctly
If you do not have this locking ring then.
Go to the local dealer and have them have a look as it may have not been done correctly
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#8
I am glad this came up. Having the same problem. If a solution is found, it looks like several of us will be happy.
#9
- new seal (still leaked)
- new lock ring (still leaked)
- new pumps (still leaked)
What finally worked:
- They flew a tech up from Los Angeles, with an XJR tank and pump, and retrofitted it into my car, with a custom module to interface the pump and other sensors to the car's ECM. This module, designed in Vienna, by Jag engineers, and the tank echange, was provided on Jaguar's dime. I paid nothing for the work, and I got a 1 year warranty.
The reason for the tank swap is that there is no "new old stock" for STR tanks and pumps for my year. There is just nothing left, since there were so few of these cars made. To my knowledge, my car was the prototype for this repair. I talked to the tech who oversaw the work, and he was pretty excited about it.
Caveat: I brought my car back (to a different dealer, closer to my house), and they didn't want to touch the car after finding out it had a "frankenstein" tank and custom ecm adapter module. However, I have a very good local Jag shop who I trust to give me accurate diagnoses.
Ken
#10
I had *exactly* the same problem within a month of buying my 2005. Dealer said that Jaguar reported the recall work having been done on my car, but the parts and the entire system did not appear - to the tech looking at the car - to have been touched or replaced. They attempted the following:
- new seal (still leaked)
- new lock ring (still leaked)
- new pumps (still leaked)
What finally worked:
- They flew a tech up from Los Angeles, with an XJR tank and pump, and retrofitted it into my car, with a custom module to interface the pump and other sensors to the car's ECM. This module, designed in Vienna, by Jag engineers, and the tank echange, was provided on Jaguar's dime. I paid nothing for the work, and I got a 1 year warranty.
The reason for the tank swap is that there is no "new old stock" for STR tanks and pumps for my year. There is just nothing left, since there were so few of these cars made. To my knowledge, my car was the prototype for this repair. I talked to the tech who oversaw the work, and he was pretty excited about it.
Caveat: I brought my car back (to a different dealer, closer to my house), and they didn't want to touch the car after finding out it had a "frankenstein" tank and custom ecm adapter module. However, I have a very good local Jag shop who I trust to give me accurate diagnoses.
Ken
- new seal (still leaked)
- new lock ring (still leaked)
- new pumps (still leaked)
What finally worked:
- They flew a tech up from Los Angeles, with an XJR tank and pump, and retrofitted it into my car, with a custom module to interface the pump and other sensors to the car's ECM. This module, designed in Vienna, by Jag engineers, and the tank echange, was provided on Jaguar's dime. I paid nothing for the work, and I got a 1 year warranty.
The reason for the tank swap is that there is no "new old stock" for STR tanks and pumps for my year. There is just nothing left, since there were so few of these cars made. To my knowledge, my car was the prototype for this repair. I talked to the tech who oversaw the work, and he was pretty excited about it.
Caveat: I brought my car back (to a different dealer, closer to my house), and they didn't want to touch the car after finding out it had a "frankenstein" tank and custom ecm adapter module. However, I have a very good local Jag shop who I trust to give me accurate diagnoses.
Ken
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#14
Its not the greatest fix but you should try "Seal-All". It comes in a yellow tube like RTV but it specially formulated for gas leaks. Its great stuff available online or any big box auto parts store.
Back in the old days used to carry a tube of in all our cars up north when gas tanks would get pinhole leaks from the salt. Put a dap on your finger and rub where gas was dripping, yep worked on wet gas surfaces almost immediately!
Back in the old days used to carry a tube of in all our cars up north when gas tanks would get pinhole leaks from the salt. Put a dap on your finger and rub where gas was dripping, yep worked on wet gas surfaces almost immediately!
#15
Its not the greatest fix but you should try "Seal-All". It comes in a yellow tube like RTV but it specially formulated for gas leaks. Its great stuff available online or any big box auto parts store.
Back in the old days used to carry a tube of in all our cars up north when gas tanks would get pinhole leaks from the salt. Put a dap on your finger and rub where gas was dripping, yep worked on wet gas surfaces almost immediately!
Back in the old days used to carry a tube of in all our cars up north when gas tanks would get pinhole leaks from the salt. Put a dap on your finger and rub where gas was dripping, yep worked on wet gas surfaces almost immediately!
#16
My car was repaired under the recall by a previous owner. When my tank started leaking I called Jaguar corporate and after several hickups (case was closed then re-opened several times) they had me take it to a dealer to confirm that the recall repair did not include a tank replacement. Must've been seals only. Short story is I got a brand new tank and fittings from an XF similar to Ken. Paid for by Jaguar.
#17
I would suggest you call jaguar corporate and ask them to open a case.
My car was repaired under the recall by a previous owner. When my tank started leaking I called Jaguar corporate and after several hickups (case was closed then re-opened several times) they had me take it to a dealer to confirm that the recall repair did not include a tank replacement. Must've been seals only. Short story is I got a brand new tank and fittings from an XF similar to Ken. Paid for by Jaguar.
My car was repaired under the recall by a previous owner. When my tank started leaking I called Jaguar corporate and after several hickups (case was closed then re-opened several times) they had me take it to a dealer to confirm that the recall repair did not include a tank replacement. Must've been seals only. Short story is I got a brand new tank and fittings from an XF similar to Ken. Paid for by Jaguar.
#18
I took it to the dealer and of course they tried the simple fix first. It took them several tries to find out that it was not going to fix the problem. Each time they sent me home with a smile. Only for me to find out it still leaked. Finally jaguar corporate agreed to open a case. Cost me a couple hundred dollars upfront.
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