S-Type / S type R Supercharged V8 ( X200 ) 1999 - 2008 2001 - 2009
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

supercharger pulley

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 11-12-2008, 12:28 PM
dgantt's Avatar
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location:
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default supercharger pulley

Hey everyone,
I have a few questions. I'm thinking of getting a 1.5 PSI pulley for my 03 STR. I'm I going to need a tune with that or will the engine adapt to the extra income of air. Do they even make a tuner for our cars? Also what is the stock PSI on our cars.
 
  #2  
Old 11-12-2008, 02:26 PM
whiteSTR's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 972
Likes: 0
Received 33 Likes on 17 Posts
Default RE: supercharger pulley

First off, no they do not make a programmer/tuner for our cars... Eurotoys offers a ecu tune that $1000 but well worth it if you have the spare cash.. power goes to 435hp and torque to 488ft/lbs with a less restrictive exhaust.. ECU tune is a wayyy better investment than a pulley.. With the 1.5lb pulley you are not required to retune your ECU... stock boost is supposed to be 13.1 psi, and this pulley will up that to 14.5... Not very much, but enough to feel it in your midrange RPMs, but once you get into higher RPMs your pushing the Eaton out of its efficiency range and adding a lot of heat by spinning the supercharger too fast..
 
  #3  
Old 11-12-2008, 04:36 PM
dgantt's Avatar
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location:
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: supercharger pulley

Thanks whiteSTR, so in your opinion the 1.5 pully is a waste of time? How hard is it to get the pulley off. I was going to replace my super charger belt and thought it might be a nice small upgrade since I had the belt off.
 
  #4  
Old 11-12-2008, 07:07 PM
whiteSTR's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 972
Likes: 0
Received 33 Likes on 17 Posts
Default RE: supercharger pulley

Your definitely on the right track with the supercharger belt, it helps a lot off the line.. The 1.5lb pulley is not necessarily a waste of, just depends on what your looking for.. When doing pulleys, the thing you have to focus on is adiabatic efficiency which is basically a balancing act between the gains of compressed air charge (which can be increased with a smaller pulley) versus the losses from hotter, less-dense, (and detonation prone) air. The temperature of the air after the blower and even after an intercooler can more than 100 degrees hotter than ambient air at full boost. Roots style blowers, like our Eaton, are the least efficient of all blowers at around %60.. Centifugal superchargers such as a Vortech or a Procharger are generally the most efficient at around %80 (not the most reliable though).. An Eaton M112 like we have taps out around 15 lbs of boost and roughly 460 horsepower anything beyond that and you need a centrifugal, a Kenne Bell, or a TURBO.. If you want to efficiently break the 15psi barrier with the M112 you can always have it ported to squeeze another pound out of it.. Stiegemeier is the guy to do it if your interested.. usually for less that $375, I posted a topic with the link to his website...

As far as removing the old pulley on your own.. It's not terribly difficult, you just need a special puller to do it without damaging any..

Heres what it looks like:
Name:  CIMG1386.jpg
Views: 1598
Size:  39.2 KB
 
  #5  
Old 11-12-2008, 07:09 PM
whiteSTR's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 972
Likes: 0
Received 33 Likes on 17 Posts
Default RE: supercharger pulley

This is a stock M112:

Name:  CIMG1459.jpg
Views: 1063
Size:  54.5 KB

And this is what your blower will look like after Stiegemeier is done with it:

Name:  CIMG1458.jpg
Views: 1173
Size:  47.1 KB
 
  #6  
Old 11-12-2008, 07:21 PM
whiteSTR's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 972
Likes: 0
Received 33 Likes on 17 Posts
Default RE: supercharger pulley

For a turbo comparison.. my T70 was rated at 49psi and 75% efficient... and my T76 is rated at 38psi and 78% efficient.. but obviously wayyy more tan our cars could handle... [&:]
 
  #7  
Old 11-12-2008, 10:07 PM
dgantt's Avatar
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location:
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: supercharger pulley

Your the man! Thanks for the great advice, I would love to get the charger ported and polished. Is Steigemeier a member on this forum?
 
  #8  
Old 11-13-2008, 12:10 AM
whiteSTR's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 972
Likes: 0
Received 33 Likes on 17 Posts
Default RE: supercharger pulley

No, he's not on our forum.. Stiegemeier Engine Air Flow has been in business for over 25 years... he can port any car that came from the factory with a Eaton.. the link to his website is http://www.stiegemeier.com/jaguar.html they do great work at reasonable prices.. and its a performance modification that has no real negative side effects, only positive ones..
 
  #9  
Old 11-13-2008, 08:05 AM
dgantt's Avatar
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location:
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: supercharger pulley

Thanks again for your time and advice.
 
  #10  
Old 11-13-2008, 07:23 PM
whiteSTR's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 972
Likes: 0
Received 33 Likes on 17 Posts
Default RE: supercharger pulley

No problem.. thats what this forum is for..
 
  #11  
Old 11-13-2008, 09:28 PM
MidGaSTR's Avatar
Member
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location:
Posts: 96
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: supercharger pulley

Could you direct me to a writeup on blower removal?

Also, how's the car running? Still having problems?
 
  #12  
Old 10-20-2009, 08:59 PM
mplex2000's Avatar
Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

WhiteSTR,

You said Stiegemeier did your porting for only $375? I emailed him asking about porting and a pulley and was quoted $1495!! He said this is 60 RWHP which I would think is just blower porting and a 2.5 psi pulley...
 
  #13  
Old 01-18-2010, 01:56 PM
qwiketz's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Laguna Hills, CA
Posts: 696
Likes: 0
Received 36 Likes on 31 Posts
Default

what about going to a really small pulley and making the efficiency loss back by using alky injection? That would also combat detonation due to lack of octane/ too much timing for the amount of boost, ect.

I currently have an s type 4.0 so I don't have any experience with the S type r, but I have a ton of experience with vettes and mustangs. I'm actually starting to think about upgrading to a type r.

Also, what's the smallest pulley that fits the 112 without too much slippage and while still fitting the snout?
 
  #14  
Old 12-15-2010, 12:13 PM
hollywooddippa's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Eglin AFB, FL
Posts: 122
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Do they do anything internally or just gring out, like whats in the picture?

Originally Posted by whiteSTR
This is a stock M112:



And this is what your blower will look like after Stiegemeier is done with it:

 
  #15  
Old 12-15-2010, 12:19 PM
JagV8's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Yorkshire, England
Posts: 26,780
Received 4,534 Likes on 3,943 Posts
Default

Try a Search (on Stiegemeier I suppose) and you'll find some unhappiness.
 
  #16  
Old 12-15-2010, 02:06 PM
bfsgross's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 5,084
Received 431 Likes on 389 Posts
Default

Stiegymier (spelling?) checks the internals for wear and will replace worn parts. They offer an internal re-gear of the front section (Snake Bite). What you see in the pics are areas grounded (port and polish) out to increase air intake and velocities= more air pumped-in whilst lowering temps.
 
The following users liked this post:
ChrisSTR (12-15-2010)
  #17  
Old 12-15-2010, 06:29 PM
clubairth1's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: May 2009
Location: home
Posts: 9,267
Received 2,394 Likes on 1,888 Posts
Default

First the picture posted is NOT a Jaguar M112!! That is a Ford. I have the correct pictures below. Along with a comparison of stock and a ported version. Not much is done. Be aware that Stiegemeier has treated one of the forum members very badly and I probably WON'T use him because of this. A little searching will turn up the thread.
Here is his web site:

http://www.stiegemeier.com/
.
.
.





 
Attached Thumbnails  supercharger pulley-2003-s-type-r-engine-supercharger-oulet.jpg    supercharger pulley-steigmyer-ported-blower-next-stock-4.0.jpg  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
vwbusbits
XJ XJ8 / XJR ( X308 )
15
10-13-2015 03:43 AM
inactualis
XJ XJ8 / XJR ( X308 )
7
10-02-2015 11:13 AM
Johncy2000
XJ ( X351 )
4
10-02-2015 01:05 AM
Col. Sandurz
PRIVATE For Sale / Trade or Buy Classifieds
1
09-28-2015 07:29 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


Quick Reply: supercharger pulley



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:20 PM.