Swapping an auto for a manual.
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A V6 S-Type 5-speed being the one and only collectable S-Type...I can honestly say, that thought never crossed my mind...I don't see any S-Type's ever becoming a collectible, yet if I were a betting man I would say the 08 STR which is the only S-Type with 19s would be the highest demand S-Type...There's probably fewer S-Types on OEM 19's than there are S-Types with V6 manuals...
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Unmolested, low mileage STRs, that haven't been flogged, will hold their value. Over here you never see 02 STRs below $35K, with most being over $45K. Whereas the same year V6s are sub $20K.
I don't think the rest of the range has much potential to become a future classic either. Though low mileage barn finds will gain some value, the older they get. & the manual's scarcity gives it a shot at reaching the bottom of it's depreciation curve earlier than the slushers.
I don't think the rest of the range has much potential to become a future classic either. Though low mileage barn finds will gain some value, the older they get. & the manual's scarcity gives it a shot at reaching the bottom of it's depreciation curve earlier than the slushers.
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Unmolested, low mileage STRs, that haven't been flogged, will hold their value. Over here you never see 02 STRs below $35K, with most being over $45K. Whereas the same year V6s are sub $20K.
I don't think the rest of the range has much potential to become a future classic either. Though low mileage barn finds will gain some value, the older they get. & the manual's scarcity gives it a shot at reaching the bottom of it's depreciation curve earlier than the slushers.
I don't think the rest of the range has much potential to become a future classic either. Though low mileage barn finds will gain some value, the older they get. & the manual's scarcity gives it a shot at reaching the bottom of it's depreciation curve earlier than the slushers.
What may be a collectable in the near future is a virgin S-Type coolant overflow tank...
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You can occasionally find 03 STRs here for about $10K...$35K? How much is it to ship and convert one to your market? lol I certain do not think any S-Type will ever hold their value, I was just saying that within the S-Type lineup that the pick of the litter IMO would be the 08 STR...Some Jaguar owners, often the more old school folks, don't hold the S/X Type owners in very high regard usually due to a combination of the low retail prices compared to other Jags and the Ford influence...This bias my further lower the demand...
What may be a collectable in the near future is a virgin S-Type coolant overflow tank...
What may be a collectable in the near future is a virgin S-Type coolant overflow tank...
Jaguar's been an orphan child since Sir William left the helm. I find it hard to believe that anyone would get prissy about any of the cars built since then. Probably the worst cars they've ever built, & the ones most responsible for Jaguar's reputation for unreliability, are the BL cars. Yet many of them are now considered to be classics.
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I also think the most likely S Type to become collectable is the last year 2008 STR. A good bit of cosmetic differences like extra wood plus super low production numbers and as mentioned the 19" wheels. The S Type pretty much did a straight decline in production numbers from 2000 to 2008.
We never got the STR production break out separately but for 2008 it has to be only a few hundred made at best?? I have only seen one in pictures and don't think anybody on this forum has a 2008 STR??
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We never got the STR production break out separately but for 2008 it has to be only a few hundred made at best?? I have only seen one in pictures and don't think anybody on this forum has a 2008 STR??
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We all benefitted from the lack of buyer interest combined with the massive depreciation of the S-Type. Our 2005 S-Type purchased in December 2008 still holds my personal record for the best steal-deal I've ever managed to pull off with a dealership. I cannot imagine the pain and suffering associated with the decision to buy an S-Type new. I trust that only a handful of members here on the forum actually chose that acquisition route....
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No question about it. That's why I went hunting for an S-Type when I did. Our entire financial system was on the verge of collapse and I knew I could steal one if I battled hard enough. My wife and I were the only customers in the dealership for that entire Friday morning a week before Christmas, and they treated us like British royalty. I'll always remember that experience fondly....
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Left-hand-drive from North America or continental Europe is pretty much a no-no.
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I believe no STRs at all were made in 2008, though some were sold new then.
Of the figures I've seen, 129 STRs were made for the UK in 2007, 190 worldwide (don't know if that includes the 129) - all of which I think would be termed 2008 MY though I'm uncertain about that, too.
Of the figures I've seen, 129 STRs were made for the UK in 2007, 190 worldwide (don't know if that includes the 129) - all of which I think would be termed 2008 MY though I'm uncertain about that, too.
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I just got emailed some more pics of the black Jag. Looks pretty sweet too.
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I've organised a mobile mechanic to come & give it an inspection, while I'm there on Friday. & I'm prepared to walk away if it needs too much spent on it. But if it goes as good as it looks in these pics. She's mine!
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I've organised a mobile mechanic to come & give it an inspection, while I'm there on Friday. & I'm prepared to walk away if it needs too much spent on it. But if it goes as good as it looks in these pics. She's mine!
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Looks very nice, clean. Only problem I see is there appears to be a slight manufacturing defect on that black S-type. Some knuckle head put the steering wheel on the wrong side!
A buddy of mine and I were once considering moving to Australia a few years ago. After I saw how much it would cost to bring my STR with me, I considered just selling it here and buying a new one once I arrived..... until I saw the prices! Around $200k for a new Jag that was only about $60 here, I couldn't believe it.
A buddy of mine and I were once considering moving to Australia a few years ago. After I saw how much it would cost to bring my STR with me, I considered just selling it here and buying a new one once I arrived..... until I saw the prices! Around $200k for a new Jag that was only about $60 here, I couldn't believe it.
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I believe no STRs at all were made in 2008, though some were sold new then.
Of the figures I've seen, 129 STRs were made for the UK in 2007, 190 worldwide (don't know if that includes the 129) - all of which I think would be termed 2008 MY though I'm uncertain about that, too.
Of the figures I've seen, 129 STRs were made for the UK in 2007, 190 worldwide (don't know if that includes the 129) - all of which I think would be termed 2008 MY though I'm uncertain about that, too.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...numbers-40394/
MyBlackCat: I called Jag USA last week. They put me in touch with their Archive dept.
I left a message with my question about STR production.
They are only open 2-3 days a week, I never thought they would bother getting back to me.
Friday morning a nice guy named Mike returned my call,I was really surprised and blown away with this type of customer service.
He said most of the numbers will be for the following year since Jag does its production in the late part of the year preceding the actual sticker model year.
01 for the 02 MY 80
02 for the 03 MY 3925
03 for the 04 MY 1168
04 for the 05 MY 1315
05 for the 06 MY 667
06 for the 07 MY 698
07 for the 08 MY 190
Total 8043.
He did a quick scan and said by his estimate 50% looked like they went to the US.
With 03 numbers quite high it answers why we have so many members with the 03 car.Looks like 02 and 08 are VERY rare.Not even sure if 02 was available in the US.
Hope you enjoy.
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Bacardi, I came across an Aussie and sold him the headrest entertainment package accessory thingy. He has a 02 STR. So I asked him the VIN. M3xxx something or other. I said, are you sure that is an R? He said, well, it has a supercharger on it so I'm pretty sure. I couldn't believe it. It was like the 03 cars but built during the 02 model run. I was working at a Jag dealer so I ran the VIN with jag and sure enough, that car has a blower on it. I still don't understand when they build cars and when they are assigned a VIN. From my thoughts, that car could have been built alongside older style S-types. That one still befuddles me.
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There's a similar car (*) over here. I think they were pre-production.
(*) maybe more than one, but this is the only one I'm aware of from the Jaguar Forum.co.uk • Index page site
(*) maybe more than one, but this is the only one I'm aware of from the Jaguar Forum.co.uk • Index page site
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Bacardi, I came across an Aussie and sold him the headrest entertainment package accessory thingy. He has a 02 STR. So I asked him the VIN. M3xxx something or other. I said, are you sure that is an R? He said, well, it has a supercharger on it so I'm pretty sure. I couldn't believe it. It was like the 03 cars but built during the 02 model run. I was working at a Jag dealer so I ran the VIN with jag and sure enough, that car has a blower on it. I still don't understand when they build cars and when they are assigned a VIN. From my thoughts, that car could have been built alongside older style S-types. That one still befuddles me.
Black Cat Update: It's a dog! Badly repaired accident damage down the driver's side, sun-faded paint & a worn interior, were the just the more obvious faults. It was the loud knock from the right cylinder bank, & the complete lack of oil on the dipstick that got me walking angrily back to my car though. How someone can say a car's in good condition with a knock like that is beyond me. Never mind presenting a car for sale with out checking the oil! What the...? One good thing; I think I've got the desire for a manual S-Type out of my system. I was far from impressed with the box, which was notchy & harsh. But it was the clutch that impressed me the least. What a heavy beast! Even if I did get used to it, I'd end up with an abnormally huge left leg!
Anyway the trip's not a complete wash out. I've caught up with a friend I haven't seen in years, & I'm having a good time in Perth, where I haven't been for 20 years. & with a view like this from my hotel balcony, I'm more pleased about the money I've saved, by not buying the car, than I'm worried about what the trip's cost me.
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