switching back to good ol' 5w30
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I won't buy chewing gum even if it was only licked.
Contamination is contamination!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Used motor oil is basically useless unless you just want to pour it on a rusted part or bicycle chain.
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Contamination is contamination!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Used motor oil is basically useless unless you just want to pour it on a rusted part or bicycle chain.
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Used is used ! A waste ? I disagree, itll be recycled and sold again, I dont understand the anger and judgement with my dissatisfaction of T6 and the right to reimbursement, I work hard and earn the money I spend and I refuse to waste my money on a product that I am not satisfied with, if their policy stated that there is no return in such circumstances that would be fine, id cut my losses. However it does not state that anywhere, and they do accept returns. I will exercise my rights !!
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I'd be agitated if I were to purchase the 43.7ish mile motor oil assuming it was new and not used.
Especially when I had thought that I was prepared to do an oil change. Have the vehicle on jack stands, drained oil, changed filter then go to fill it up with opened "new" oil containers. I will not say on this forum what I would be calling the SOB that returned the frickin' 43.7ish mile motor oil!
Especially when I had thought that I was prepared to do an oil change. Have the vehicle on jack stands, drained oil, changed filter then go to fill it up with opened "new" oil containers. I will not say on this forum what I would be calling the SOB that returned the frickin' 43.7ish mile motor oil!
Ahhh assumptions !! and jeezz thanks for the kind words sir, and they would not re stock opened canisters of engine oil that have been used, regardless of the amount of use. It will be most likely returned to the manufacturer or simply recycled.
If you were unhappy with an engine oil in your vehicle and developed concerns regarding it, what would you do ? Gladly continue driving and ignore abnormal sounds and feels ?? I highly doubt that anyone of us would continue driving blindly and not change the oil, now whether you keep/recycle/return/or finger paint with that used oil is your business.
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I do think that returning used oil is really a big stretch, but if Wal-Mart knew it was used and still agreed to exchange it, can't see a problem with that. The real problem would arise if Wal-Mart were to re-sell the oil as new, and that is unlikely.
Many big retailers have a no-questions-asked return policy, and that's one of the ways they go about building their market share. Used or defective returns are either sent back to the manufacturer or sold at a discount to other smaller resellers who in turn resell it as "used" or "refurbished" at a much lower price.
It's my experience that retailers like Wal-Mart, Costco and Home Depot are always very competitive, in spite of their policy of returns-without-question. And while the thought of buying 6 liters of high-quality, slightly used motor oil for maybe $8 does not appeal to me, it will appeal to someone.
Many big retailers have a no-questions-asked return policy, and that's one of the ways they go about building their market share. Used or defective returns are either sent back to the manufacturer or sold at a discount to other smaller resellers who in turn resell it as "used" or "refurbished" at a much lower price.
It's my experience that retailers like Wal-Mart, Costco and Home Depot are always very competitive, in spite of their policy of returns-without-question. And while the thought of buying 6 liters of high-quality, slightly used motor oil for maybe $8 does not appeal to me, it will appeal to someone.
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Ahhh assumptions !! and jeezz thanks for the kind words sir, and they would not re stock opened canisters of engine oil that have been used, regardless of the amount of use. It will be most likely returned to the manufacturer or simply recycled.
If you were unhappy with an engine oil in your vehicle and developed concerns regarding it, what would you do ? Gladly continue driving and ignore abnormal sounds and feels ?? I highly doubt that anyone of us would continue driving blindly and not change the oil, now whether you keep/recycle/return/or finger paint with that used oil is your business.
If you were unhappy with an engine oil in your vehicle and developed concerns regarding it, what would you do ? Gladly continue driving and ignore abnormal sounds and feels ?? I highly doubt that anyone of us would continue driving blindly and not change the oil, now whether you keep/recycle/return/or finger paint with that used oil is your business.
In this and your other thread, you mentioned 'engine noises' and a proposed attempt to cure them by switching oil viscosity/type/brand. It was made clear here
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...81/#post960497
That this was a waste of time. There were other recommendations that changing out oil at 5,000 miles was already a waste, possibly more so since you already had a synthetic installed. There is no requirement or a factory recomendation to use synthetic oil in this car. The standard change interval is 10,000 mile.
The switch to the new oil predictably made no difference to the 'engine noises'. Further information indicated that these noises might just be normal injector clicking. This means that it was indeed a waste of time switching oil and also means that there's nothing wrong with the new oil. Again, others have used this same oil and have had no issue with it.
It's OK to perform experiments using your own nickel on your own car, but not using the money of others irrespective of whether it's a huge company like Walmart where you can pull a fast one and get away with it.
My 2 cents.
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That's a bit rough. He was up-front with Wal-Mart about the oil being used, and it was their decision to take back the oil. Now, if he re-sealed the container before returning it...
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I just think it's wrong to jerk around a retailer irrespective of what loopholes there are in a return policy.
Would it be OK to use the oil for the full 10K mile interval and return it for a refund because 'I'm not satisfied'? According to what I understand of their policy, Walmart would still accept it.
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Walmart, QVC and many other retailers have a "no questions asked" return policy regardless of what product you bought and later returned. Don't like something you bought? Return it within xx number of days, no problems. What's not to like about this policy and why not use it when necessary?
The OP bought motor oil - but it could just as easily have been shoes or a computer or detergent - which he determined after using did not suit his needs. How else would he know if he didn't use it? He packaged it back up, took it back to Walmart and requested a refund. It didn't matter to Walmart that the product was oil and not shoes. Kudos to Walmart. It's good business and makes customers like me more willing to shop there. Note that the OP didn't package his old oil in the new containers and return with the intent of ripping Walmart off. If he did, I'd be first in line to kick his *ss.
The problem for many Forum posters here is that, in this case, the product IS motor oil and not shoes. If I read correctly, someone in this thread suggested that Walmart might actually put it back on the shelf for resale - a reprehensible act if it were done. But that wouldn't be the fault of the OP; that would be Walmart's fault wouldn't it? So why give the OP such a hard time?
Although Walmart *might* put shoes back on the rack and resell them, most likely they have a different disposal plan in the case of returned motor oil. As a savvy business, Walmart will recoup as much of their $$ as possible without stooping to reselling used oil as new to unsuspecting customers; they'll probably sell it to oil re-manufacturers or maybe return it to the manufacturer as defective. Any loss Walmart incurs in this transaction is absorbed by Walmart, and their retail prices go up as a result. Sadly, we Walmart customers pay the penalty for ANY returns in which they incur a loss.
One of the earlier posters was trying to make that point. Got it. How about we move on and give the OP a break?
The OP bought motor oil - but it could just as easily have been shoes or a computer or detergent - which he determined after using did not suit his needs. How else would he know if he didn't use it? He packaged it back up, took it back to Walmart and requested a refund. It didn't matter to Walmart that the product was oil and not shoes. Kudos to Walmart. It's good business and makes customers like me more willing to shop there. Note that the OP didn't package his old oil in the new containers and return with the intent of ripping Walmart off. If he did, I'd be first in line to kick his *ss.
The problem for many Forum posters here is that, in this case, the product IS motor oil and not shoes. If I read correctly, someone in this thread suggested that Walmart might actually put it back on the shelf for resale - a reprehensible act if it were done. But that wouldn't be the fault of the OP; that would be Walmart's fault wouldn't it? So why give the OP such a hard time?
Although Walmart *might* put shoes back on the rack and resell them, most likely they have a different disposal plan in the case of returned motor oil. As a savvy business, Walmart will recoup as much of their $$ as possible without stooping to reselling used oil as new to unsuspecting customers; they'll probably sell it to oil re-manufacturers or maybe return it to the manufacturer as defective. Any loss Walmart incurs in this transaction is absorbed by Walmart, and their retail prices go up as a result. Sadly, we Walmart customers pay the penalty for ANY returns in which they incur a loss.
One of the earlier posters was trying to make that point. Got it. How about we move on and give the OP a break?
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Time to move on.
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Aside from the ethical question of returning used oil, the T6 5W40 is a perfectly fine oil in the proposed application and would not in and of itself cause the noted change. In fact being slightly thicker than the 5W30, it would be the other way around.
Now, the OP had a question above that indicates he is unsure as to what oil level is currently in the car ... hint: the question about capacity.
Low oil level *will* cause odd behaviour.
... so would buying and using a jug of "T6" that was returned with something else in the jug by a previous customer.
What goes around comes around.
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Now, the OP had a question above that indicates he is unsure as to what oil level is currently in the car ... hint: the question about capacity.
Low oil level *will* cause odd behaviour.
... so would buying and using a jug of "T6" that was returned with something else in the jug by a previous customer.
What goes around comes around.
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Opened CD/DVD/software/medicine don't qualify for refunds either.
Nor do they issue refunds for used sanitary napkins. Regardless of level of use.
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Evidently, that's a risk Walmart is willing to take. Ultimately, the cost of these returns is factored into their prices, so Walmart loses nothing by offering such a liberal return policy so long as people continue to shop there. As Mikey indicated above, retailers pass these costs to their customers.
FWIW - Notwithstanding their generous return policy, Walmart has pretty good prices.
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Aside from the ethical question of returning used oil, the T6 5W40 is a perfectly fine oil in the proposed application and would not in and of itself cause the noted change. In fact being slightly thicker than the 5W30, it would be the other way around.
Now, the OP had a question above that indicates he is unsure as to what oil level is currently in the car ... hint: the question about capacity.
Low oil level *will* cause odd behaviour.
... so would buying and using a jug of "T6" that was returned with something else in the jug by a previous customer.
What goes around comes around.
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Now, the OP had a question above that indicates he is unsure as to what oil level is currently in the car ... hint: the question about capacity.
Low oil level *will* cause odd behaviour.
... so would buying and using a jug of "T6" that was returned with something else in the jug by a previous customer.
What goes around comes around.
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I understand your view points and respect them, I don't appreciate the nature behind them. I am just exercising my right as a walmart consumer. You don't blame your peers for raising insurance rates I suppose do you ??
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So I guess I'd have to answer 'yes'.
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You can be quite sure that Wal-Mart has a contract with its hardware, automotive and appliance suppliers that states something like this:
"We will buy x of your items at a price of $y each. We reserve the right to return any item that is defective or found to be unsatisfactory for any reason, for replacement or credit, at our option".
It would be a bold and foolhardy supplier who would dare to suggest an increase of price as a result of those returns.
"We will buy x of your items at a price of $y each. We reserve the right to return any item that is defective or found to be unsatisfactory for any reason, for replacement or credit, at our option".
It would be a bold and foolhardy supplier who would dare to suggest an increase of price as a result of those returns.
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[QUOTE=plums;964172]Aside from the ethical question of returning used oil, the T6 5W40 is a perfectly fine oil in the proposed application and would not in and of itself cause the noted change. In fact being slightly thicker than the 5W30, it would be the other way around.
That was my intention for choosing T6, however it did the opposite and created more noise, that is way i wanted to return it
That was my intention for choosing T6, however it did the opposite and created more noise, that is way i wanted to return it
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Wal-Mart are tough cookies when negotiating price with manufacturers. The "somewhere" is more likely to be the Jaguar dealer than Wal-Mart, so relax.