Gentlemen, I think the time has come to quit this forum. Wanna thank all those members whose invaluable contributions have helped me bring my STR into good, reliable working condition.

Mikey, you irritate me continuously, and make me wonder about the meaning of the word "Coordinator". Right after I joined the forum, saw this post from you to another new member:

I thought that was needlessly mean. My reply to you at that time...
Since then, nothing seems to have changed. I thought it was just me, but here's a collection of responses from other forum members to your comments:

Food for thought, but no longer for me. For you, maybe?

 

Hey Rob dont leave the forum as the result of Mikey and his needs of satisfaction through condescending remarks.
This being my first thread and receiving a lot of negative comments and remarks, and also being judged by complete strangers, I felt/feel that this forum isn't as welcoming and of good nature as I believed it to be.

However you have provided a balance too this and I would like to say thank you, and it is appreciated and it has prolonged my membership here.

 

Robin,

Sorry you feel that way.

I make no apologies for putting a stick in yours or anybody's spoke on technical matters where myths, misconceptions or simple ignorance is being promoted over facts, common sense or other easily available credible information.

As much as I may have irritated you and others by proving that many myths are just that, it seems to have little long term effect in causing them to permanently fade away. There seems to be a small number of semi-regulars that want to keep dragging them out for another beating at every opportunity but with no more evidence or proof than the last time. The current oil discussion is a perfect example. In my mind this is borderline troll behaviour.

New members coming here deserve an accurate, correct answer to a straight forward technical question. The internet is already full of discussion boards that have been trashed to the point of being useless to anyone looking for a credible answer to an honest question. Hopefully this site remains one of the exceptions.

Good luck.

 

Knowledge and the correct information is appreciated, in the manner you present the information is not :/

 

I think you may have proposed an excellent solution. If the myths stop getting dragged out by the same people for the umpteen time- the problem disappears.

Works for me.

 

I think it is probably time to agree to disagree in this thread and move on to something else.

 

I agree to that norrie, I have a feeling however that Mikey is a disgruntled member who will quite possibly, if not already turn away prospective members or new mmbers as myself from participation or expanding the pool of knowledge here.

 

In my deacades of driving, owning 8 cars and joined numerous forums, I must say I have never heard of anyone taking used oil back out of their car and fill the bottles back to take it to the retailer. I'm not entirely sure what to think of it

Like someone said, Wal-Mart will take back almost anything, but it doesn't make it right. I've been on shopping deal forums enough that people will buy things elsewhere and return to Walmart without receipt, and they'll still take it back to give store credit. I'm not saying this scenario is entirely the same, but it is questionable.

Employees don't really care and rather just "pass-on" the expense to corporate and in turn, it gets passed onto the rest of the consumer. It's not the first time and it won't be the last.

 

What you perceive as fact is often not fact, but personal bias.

Where it all falls apart is when you insist that all others toe the line.


See above.

I guess I would be one of them ... and I am far from a semi-regular.

The problem with "proving" anything to you is that you won't bother even following posted links for additional information.

What seems to be of paramount importance to you is "winning" and having the "last word" regardless of cost, fact, commonsense or any other consideration.

Got any mirrors in your house?


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Make Love .. Not War. Sorry Couldn't Resist Lol!

 

What surprises me is that people generally get to know that advertisers make claims about non-oil products that are dubious at best and are routinely ignored, but those same people often think claims about oil are true. Oil advertisements are trustworthy? Really???

The idea that Jaguar specify an unsuitable oil and never changed the spec to the right oil in the last 10 or so years is odd. (Actually, apparently they did - but only for the diesel with DPF.)

 

Guess not Norri.

 

Oh well! Thread closed.

 

Looks to be long overdue, thanks Norri!

I think its safe to say that there are more than a few here sick to death of oil debates and the like, repeating again and again.

Whatever the discussion may relate to, we ask that all treat each other with respect at all times.

Looks like we'll need to start using the infraction system much more, apply 7 day bans and more if this persists.