Full gasket set replacement, new coils, new plugs, IMT Orings, and things are smooth again.

Once that was taken care of I had to throw $230 on a new front tire.....Gotta love cars!!!

FYI: Evaporative emission canister purge valve transfer pipe connector is extremely fragile and the connector isn't sold alone. Entire pipe is $115 from the dealer. Yeah that kind of sucked breaking.

 

Good to hear!


Bummer


WHOOPS!

 

I've learned a valuable lesson.....just cause you throw a lot of money at a Jag doesn't mean it's fixed.

After feeling confident that the issues were fixed......**BAM** Check Engine light and Restricted Performance, again!! Lean Bank 1 and 2 error codes. The Restricted Performance goes away after slowing down, just like it did before, and there is a rattle noise associated with the issue, which goes away after slowing down.

I sprayed off the MAF, but now have focus on Catalytic Converters. One Jag mechanic I spoke to randomly said the noise issue could also be from the throttle body itself.

Any thoughts now on where to focus? I'm out of warranty on the catalytic converters and the dealership says they want $130 just to hook their computer up to it.

When running my own scan are their any specific numbers or ranges to look for when troubleshooting catalytic converters?

 

Before, you said you had coils swimming in oil. Was that really fixed or is it back?

I don't see the noise being the TB unless someone can say how and that they know it happens. Catalyst(s), yes.

Are the long term fuel trims still near zero?

Your MAF looked fine before so is likely still fine.

You might try an IR gun to monitor the cats.

In a way you know what you'll currently find with OBD and the cats because you're getting those codes. It's WHY that's the issue LOL. If you watch the downstream O2s (when hot) you don't want to see rapid switching (or flatline near 0V or above 0.9V but you have no codes for those). The upstream O2s are AFR (aka wide-band aka linear) so shouldn't switch. They should respond rapidly to changes in fuelling e.g, snap throttle (or propane enrichment - but don't do that if you don't know what it is!).

 

federal emmission warranty is 8/80 I just replaced a drivers cat on a Stype yesturday at 79k warrantied. Youve been driving the car to long with misfires and lean engine. When misfires are bad enough or rich or lean enough youll go into restricted perf. That to let you know to fix quickly and that youre doing damage while driving under those conditions. The cat codes for RP came up so before you let more mileage go take it in, they can check back pressure with a BP gauge in the upstream 02 holes, IR temp gun, and or check engine light codes.

 

I'm willing to believe they're 8/80K now but were they that way back in 2003 when the car was new? I thought they were shorter back then. Also, do they actually cover someone who fails to take proper action in a timely manner? If so, wow that's unfair on the maker.

 

Yup, you're right and it applies to other cars as well . It always pays if you start off a cheaper parts rather than expensive parts
IE : If you're having A/C problems replacing A/C compressor should be the last thing you would like to do

 

newstwome:
I still really suspect it is and always was the cat(s). Mine was acting up as well, and if I hadn't taken it in I would have spent the money on plugs and coils as well..
I understand you're frustrated, but look at it this way.. The things you replaced are things that should be done anyway, except maybe the coils (but the IMT-Orings were most likely oil soaking at least the rear coil so still a good idea). Again, I understand how frustrating it is when you spend a bunch of time thinking (and hoping) that you will fix an issue, only to find you didn't.
I would either get it to the dealer, or a real good exhaust shop, that can test the cats specifically. If they test OK, then time to look at other things. Oh, and read BRUTAL's post real good.. The tech at my dealer after we got it to jump into restricted performance knew exactly where to go...And once they replaced that cat, she ran better than she had in a long time!

 

If I had a petrol Jag. I'd be very fussy about exactly what fuel went in the tank -- I've not forgotten the VERY unfortunate contingency of high sulphur petrols eroding the Nickasil plating on the cylinder bores after a fair old mileage. When you find out about it, it's TOO LATE!
If I were you, I'd make jolly well sure no alcohol enters your tank. There are already dark mutterings about catalysts, and these aren't cheap by any means.
Be wise before the event...
Leedsman.
p.s. BTW, you can always 'crow' about how you never put gasohol in the tank when you come to sell the car. Buyers in UK know about the Nickasil problem as an instance, and you can't sell them, even for beans. I know one right now, a 1997 XJ8 in a small showroom near me, and it's been there 18 months so far. Not pricey otherwise either, AND it's in very nice 'nick.

 

Leeds is actually making sense here.... Even if it is a bit hard to see (just kidding with ya, Leeds)...

I think fuel is an issue. I used to be like the user Mikey when it came to hype about fuel.. Felt it was just that "hype". I would just buy gas from what appeared to be a well maintained gas station (didn't want water or crud in my tank). I've always known that there are only a relatively small amount of companies that refine oil into it's fuel components... They then sell that product as a commodity on the market to the actual fuel companies. Then the fuel company packages it's "magical mystery additive formula" and sells you their "superior" product. Well, in the US, gasoline has to have a certain amount of ethanol or alcohol to meet federal standards. These standards change from winter to summer. So, you have some in it from the start, then these budget suppliers add more.. Yikes! I changed fuel recently from using only BJ's budget gas to buying at the local Shell station (the only brand station I could find that didn't have the "up to 10% ethanol" disclaimer sticker). I noticed an almost immediate improvement in performance and fuel economy.
I have no scientific proof, but I still feel that the two plus years of putting "cheap" premium in my S killed the catalytic converter. One was bad, I bet the other(s) aren't far behind (but I don't have it anymore, so no worries for me). I also found it interesting that Jaguar took the time to mention that you aren't to use any alcohol blended fuels right in the owners manual. Something tells me they knew what was up...

OK, I really need to get off here and start learning about my new car... I just can't seem to stop!!!!

 

Over here there are by law NO petrol (gas) fuels with more than the tiniest amount of sulphur.

 

Here is the EPA law dated 1996 and applies to 1972 and newer. Those cats are 8/80 covered components. We have people all the time that put off repairs that end up costing alot more later.....Like 1 of my favorite ex assshole customers that always doubted my diags, wanted his car yesturday etc... He had a coolant leak on his SType R and let it go just would add coolant. I told him to fix it before it got worse or developed an air pocket that would overheat a portion of the engine...and guess what. His car came in from another shop with dropped rear cylinder exhaust seats and the pistons met them at the top The other shop said he needed a new engine and he doubted them too saying it never overheated.(air pockets creat bad localized hot spots and air also doesnt register hot on the Temp gauge, it needs the contact of coolant to accuratly register.... Anyway he towed it out and took it to yet another shop and Ive never seen him again....Another time it became a "I told you so" except this time I didnt feel sorry but warm and fuzzy inside. you get back in 1 form or another how you treat people.........anyway back to your issue

United States Air and Radiation EPA420-F-96-020
Environmental Protection March 1996
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EMISSIONS WARRANTIES
FOR 1995 AND NEWER CARS & TRUCKS


Federally required emission control warranties protect you, the
vehicle owner, from the cost of repairs for certain emission related
failures that result from manufacturer defects in materials and
workmanship or that cause your vehicle to exceed federal emission
standards. Manufacturers have been required by federal law to provide
emission control coverage for vehicles since 1972. There are two
federal emission control warranties discussed in this fact sheet: (A)
"Performance Warranty" and (B) "Design and Defect Warranty". This
fact sheet explains each warranty in detail, provides you with a list
of some of the parts covered under these warranties, explains the
procedures for making an emissions warranty claim, and answers some of
the most commonly asked questions about emissions warranties.
Finally, we will give you some tips on how to prevent future
emission-related failures and maintain the longevity of your vehicle's
engine.

A. PERFORMANCE WARRANTY

The Performance Warranty covers repairs which are required during
the first 2 years or 24,000 miles of vehicle use because the vehicle
failed an emission test. Specified major emission control components
are covered for the first 8 years or 80,000 miles. If you are a
resident of an area with an Inspection and Maintenance (I/M) program
that meets federal guidelines, you are eligible for this warranty
protection provided that:

* Your car or light-duty truck fails an approved emissions test;
and

* Your vehicle is less than 2 years old and has less than 24,000
miles (up to 8 years/80,000 miles for certain components); and

* Your state or local government requires that you repair the
vehicle; and

* The test failure does not result from misuse of the vehicle or a
failure to follow the manufacturers' written maintenance
instructions; and

* You present the vehicle to a warranty-authorized manufacturer
representative, along with evidence of the emission test failure,
during the warranty period.

During the first 2 years/24,000 miles, the Performance Warranty
covers any repair or adjustment which is necessary to make your
vehicle pass an approved, locally-required emission test and as long
as your vehicle has not exceeded the warranty time or mileage
limitations and has been properly maintained according to the
manufacturer's specifications.


B. DESIGN AND DEFECT WARRANTY

The Design and Defect Warranty covers repair of emission related
parts which become defective during the warranty period. The Design
and Defect warranty for model year 1995 and newer light-duty cars and
trucks is outlined below:

Design and Defect Warranty Coverage for 1995 and newer light-duty
vehicles:

* Emission control and emission related parts are covered for the
first 2 years or 24,000 miles of vehicle use; and

* Specified major emission control components are covered for the
first 8 years or 80,000 miles of vehicle use.

According to federal law, an emission control or emission related
part, or a specified major emission control component, that fails
because of a defect in materials or workmanship, must be repaired or
replaced by the vehicle manufacturer free of charge as long as the
vehicle has not exceeded the warranty time or mileage limitations for
the failed part.

Design and Defect Warranty coverage may vary depending on the
type of vehicle you have (e.g., heavy-duty trucks, motorcycles or
recreational vehicles have different time and mileage requirements).
To determine the length of warranty coverage that applies to your
vehicle, look for the emissions warranty information in your owner's
manual or warranty booklet. If you own a California vehicle, you may
be entitled to additional warranty coverage.

The owner's manual or warranty booklet will also provide you with
guidance on the procedures for obtaining warranty coverage. If you
have questions about the emissions warranties on your vehicle or need
help in filing a warranty claim, contact your local car dealer or the
manufacturer's zone or regional representative listed in your owner's
manual or warranty booklet.

What Emission Control and Emission Related Parts Are Covered by The
Design and Defect Warranty?

An emission control part is any part installed with the primary
purpose of controlling emissions. An emission related part is any
part that has an effect on emissions. Listed below are some examples
of parts or systems which fall under these definitions. A more
complete list can be found in your owner's manual/warranty booklet.
If any of the parts listed below fail to function or function
improperly because of a defect in materials or workmanship, causing
your vehicle to exceed federal emission standards, they should be
repaired or replaced under the emissions warranty if your vehicle is
less than 2 years old and has been driven less than 24,000 miles. One
manufacturer may use more parts than another, so the following list is
not complete for all vehicles.


EMISSION CONTROL PARTS

Exhaust Gas Conversion Systems

oxygen sensor thermal reactor
catalytic converter dual-walled exhaust pipe

Exhaust Gas Recirculation System

EGR valve thermal vacuum switch
EGR solenoid EGR spacer plate
EGR backpressure transducer Sensor and switches use to
control EGR flow

Evaporative Emission Control System

purge valve fuel filler cap
purge solenoid vapor storage canister and filter

Positive Crankcase Ventilation (PCV) System

PCV valve PCV solenoid

Air Injection System

Air pump diverter, bypass, or gulp valve
reed valve anti-backfire or deceleration valve

Early Fuel Evaporative (EFE) System

EFE valve thermal vacuum switch
heat riser valve

Fuel Metering System

electronic control module (unit) or EFI air flow meter, computer
command module or mixture control unit, deceleration controls,
electronic choke, fuel injectors, fuel injection units and fuel
altitude compensator sensor, bars or rails for EFI or TBI systems,
mixture settings on sealed fuel mixture control solenoid, diaphragm
or other systems, fuel metering components that achieve closed/other
feedback control sensors/loop operation switches and valves

Air Induction System

thermostatically controlled air cleaner, air box

Ignition Systems

electronic spark advance timing advance/retard systems,
high energy electronic ignition

Miscellaneous Parts

hoses, gaskets, brackets, clamps and other accessories used in the
above systems


EMISSION RELATED PARTS

These are examples of other parts of your vehicle which have a
primary purpose other than emissions control but which nevertheless
have significant effects on your vehicle's emissions. If any of these
parts fail to function or function improperly, your vehicle's
emissions may exceed federal standards. Therefore, when any of the
parts of the following systems are defective in materials or
workmanship and have failed in a way that would be likely to cause
your vehicle's emissions to exceed federal standards, they should be
repaired or replaced under the emissions warranty:

Fuel Injection System

fuel distributor

Air Induction System

turbocharger intake manifold

Exhaust System

exhaust manifold

Ignition System

distributor spark plugs
ignition wires and coil

Miscellaneous Parts

hoses, gaskets, brackets, clamps, and other accessories used in
the above systems.


What Are Specified Major Emission Control Components?

There are three specified major emission control components,
covered for the first 8 years or 80,000 miles of vehicle use on 1995
and newer vehicles:

* Catalytic converters.

* The electronic emissions control unit or computer (ECU).

* The onboard emissions diagnostic device or computer (OBD).

Catalytic converters are critical emission control components
that have been installed on most cars and trucks manufactured since
1975. Since engines don't burn fuel completely during the combustion
process, the exhaust contains a significant amount of harmful
pollutants such as carbon monoxide, hydrocarbons, and oxides of
nitrogen. The catalytic converter aids the conversion of these
pollutants to less harmful substances such as carbon dioxide, water
vapor, nitrogen, and oxygen before the exhaust is expelled into the
environment.

The electronic emissions control unit or computer monitors
certain powertrain functions and controls various operating parameters
to help the vehicle run efficiently and with the lowest possible
emissions. Ignition, transmission function, air injection, exhaust
gas recirculation (EGR), engine operating temperature and fuel system
parameters are some of the systems monitored and/or controlled by the
electronic emissions control unit.

The onboard emissions diagnostic device monitors the operation of
a vehicle's emission control system and alerts the driver with a
dashboard light when malfunctions occur. The system will record where
the problem is occurring and assist automotive technicians in
diagnosing and repairing emission control malfunctions. Since some
emission control malfunctions do not have an adverse effect on vehicle
performance, they can go undetected by the driver for quite some time.
The onboard diagnostic device will help catch malfunctions early,
preventing a significant output of harmful exhaust emissions from your
vehicle, and possibly in time to be covered by the emissions control
warranty. Often this "device" is part of the electronic control unit
mentioned above.

In the future, there may be other parts or components that
qualify for this coverage. Check your owner's manual or warranty book
for possible additional coverage.


How Long Do the Emissions Warranties Apply to Individual Parts of My
Vehicle?

For 1995 and newer model year vehicles, emission control and
emission related parts are warranted for the first 2 years or 24,000
miles of vehicle use. Specified major emission-control components are
warranted for the first 8 years or 80,000 miles of vehicle use.

Parts with a stated replacement interval, such as, "replace at
15,000 miles or 12 months," are warranted up to the first replacement
point only.


How Do I Know Whether I Am Entitled to Coverage Under the Emissions
Warranties?

If you or a qualified automotive technician can show that an
emission control or emission related component, or a specified major,
emission-control component, is defective, the repair or replacement of
the part is probably covered under the Design and Defect warranty. If
your vehicle failed a federally approved emissions test and has not
exceeded the time and mileage limitations for the Performance
warranty, any repairs or adjustments necessary for your vehicle to
pass should be covered by the manufacturer if the failure was not
caused by improper maintenance or abuse. When you believe you have
identified a defective part, or your vehicle fails an emission test,
you should follow the procedures for making a warranty claim as
identified by the manufacturer in your owner's manual or warranty
booklet. When taking your vehicle in to have repairs performed under
the Performance Warranty, be sure to have with you a copy of the I/M
test report as proof of your emissions test failure.


May I Have My Regular Repair Facility Perform Warranty Repairs?

If you plan to have the manufacturer pay for a repair under
either of the emissions warranties, you must take the vehicle to a
facility authorized by the vehicle manufacturer for repair to give
them the opportunity to diagnose and repair it. Note that if your
regular repair facility is not authorized by the vehicle manufacturer,
they are not obligated to advise you of parts that are covered under
warranty. Before giving your automotive technician the "go ahead" to
perform repairs, check your owner's manual/warranty booklet for
possible warranty coverage.


Do the Emissions Warranties Apply to Used Vehicles?

Yes. It does not matter if you bought your vehicle new or used
from a dealer or anyone else. As long as the vehicle has not exceeded
the warranty time or mileage limitations, these warranties apply.

IMPORTANT NOTE: Before buying a used vehicle, be sure that all of
the emission control components as originally installed by the
manufacturer are present and functioning properly. If emission
control components are missing or have been tampered with, or the
configuration of the exhaust system has been changed, the emissions
warranties on this vehicle may be void. In addition, if you live in
an area with an I/M program, the vehicle will probably not pass
inspection and you will incur the expense of parts or repairs
necessary for the vehicle to pass.


Can Any Portion of An Emissions Warranty Repair Be Charged to Me?

If you have valid warranty claim, you cannot be charged for any
costs associated with the diagnosis or repair of the problem,
including labor charges, parts, or miscellaneous items that are
necessary to complete the repair. For example, if a manufacturer
agrees to replace a catalytic converter under the emissions warranty,
you should not be charged for the diagnosis of the bad converter, or
any pipes, brackets, adjustments, or labor needed to complete the
replacement.


What Reasons Can the Manufacturer Use to Deny a Warranty Claim?

If your vehicle is within the age and mileage limits for the
applicable emissions warranty, the manufacturer can only deny coverage
if evidence shows that you have failed to properly maintain and use
your vehicle, causing the part or emission test failure. Some
examples of misuse and malmaintenance include the following:

* vehicle abuse such as off-road driving or overloading; or

* tampering with emission control parts or systems, including
removal or intentional damage of such parts or systems; or

* improper maintenance, including failure to follow maintenance
schedules and instructions specified by manufacturer, or use of
replacement parts which are not equivalent to the originally
installed parts.


What Should I Do If My First Attempt to Obtain Warranty Coverage Is
Denied?

If your first attempt to receive emissions warranty coverage is
denied, you should do the following:

1) Ask for a detailed explanation, in writing as to why emissions
warranty coverage was denied; and

2) Ask for the name(s) of the person(s) involved in the decision
to deny coverage, including anyone from the manufacturer's
regional or zone office; and

3) Ask for the name(s) of the person(s) with the manufacturer you
should contact to appeal the denial of coverage under the
emissions warranty.

4) Contact and, if necessary, write to the person mentioned above
requesting coverage and giving the basis for your request. Repeat
and continue the appeal process until you are satisfied or have
exhausted all means of appeal.


What If the Dealer Claims That My Vehicle Can Pass the I/M Test
Without Repair?

The law does not require that you fail every I/M test in order to
trigger the warranty. If a valid test shows that you have an emission
problem or there is a defective part, you should get it fixed, while
your vehicle is still within the warranty period. Otherwise, you
might fail a future test because of the same problem and have to pay
for the repair yourself. If you doubt your original test results or
the dealer's results or diagnosis, you can always get another opinion
from another dealer or your I/M program.


How Can Maintenance Affect My Emission Warranty Coverage?

Performance and the cost of scheduled maintenance are your
responsibility. You may either perform scheduled maintenance yourself
or have a qualified repair facility perform it for you.

If a part fails as a direct result of your vehicle not being
properly maintained or being used in a manner inconsistent with the
manufacturer's recommendations, or a part fails as a result of the
vehicle being involved in an accident, the manufacturer may not be
required to repair or replace the failed part under warranty. For
example, failure to replace the spark plugs at the intervals specified
in the maintenance schedule can lead to misfiring and eventual damage
to your catalytic converter - a very expensive part to replace. If
the maintenance is not performed properly as recommended, the
manufacturer may deny warranty coverage.

To ensure maximum air pollution reduction from the emission
control system, as well as to ensure continued warranty coverage,
better gas mileage and performance, and longer vehicle life, you
should have all maintenance performed as recommended by the
manufacturer's schedule. A list of scheduled maintenance for your
vehicle can be found in the owner's manual or warranty booklet.


Do I Have to Show Any Maintenance Receipts Before I Can Make an
Emissions Warranty Claim?

No. Proof of maintenance is not required in order to obtain
coverage under the emissions warranty if an emission control or
emission related component, or a specified major emission control
component, is found to be defective in materials or workmanship.
However, when it is likely that the lack of proper maintenance has
caused the particular part to fail, you may be asked to show that
scheduled maintenance was performed.

If you perform scheduled maintenance yourself, you should keep a
detailed log of work performed and any receipts for parts purchased to
perform the maintenance. In some instances, you may be asked to
qualify your ability to perform such maintenance. Vehicles should
always be maintained according to manufacturers' specifications.


Are Dealers the Only Persons Allowed to Perform Scheduled Maintenance
Recommended by the Manufacturer?

No. Scheduled maintenance may be performed by anyone who has the
knowledge and ability to perform the maintenance and repair. You may
even maintain the vehicle yourself, as long as the maintenance is
performed according to the manufacturer's instructions provided with
the vehicle.

For your protection, before taking your vehicle to a repair
facility to have any maintenance performed, check your maintenance
booklet and make a list of the scheduled maintenance to be performed
at that time. We suggest that you present this list to your auto
technician as opposed to merely asking for a "tune-up" or a "12,000
miles servicing." Your receipt should list all the maintenance
performed and should be kept for your records.

If you maintain the vehicle yourself, you should keep receipts
for parts and a maintenance log to verify your work.


If I Need Replacement Parts, Must I Use the Vehicle Manufacturer's
Parts Only?

No. A manufacturer cannot require the use of any specific brand
of parts in the maintenance of your vehicle. However, the
manufacturer can require you to use parts that are of equal quality to
the original parts.


If I Buy a Used Vehicle, How Do I Know Whether It Has Been Maintained
According to The Maintenance Schedule?

The best way to learn whether the vehicle has been maintained
according to its schedule is to ask the seller for receipts proving
that all of the scheduled maintenance was performed. Having the
receipts on hand will provide necessary evidence if the question of
maintenance arises when considering repairs under warranty. To
prevent any loss of your vehicle's emission performance, you should
continue to follow the maintenance schedule in the owner's manual or
warranty booklet.

If the seller does not have the owner's manual, warranty booklet
or maintenance schedule, you can obtain them from the manufacturer.


How Will I Know If My Claim Has Been Accepted As Valid?

After you present your vehicle for a Performance Warranty claim,
the manufacturer has 30 days to either repair the vehicle or notify
you in writing that the claim has been denied. If you are making a
Performance Warranty claim and your I/M program imposes a shorter
repair deadline, the manufacturer must meet the deadline. Because of
the significance of these deadlines, you should get written
verification from the dealer showing that they acknowledge the date by
which repairs must be made.

There are no specific requirements for Defect Warranty claims,
however, manufacturer responses should be made within a reasonable
time period.


What Happens If the Manufacturer Does Not Respond to My Performance
Warranty Claim Within the 30-Day Deadline?

You may agree to extend the deadline, or it will be automatically
extended if the delay was beyond the control of the manufacturer.
Otherwise, a missed deadline means the manufacturer forfeits the right
to deny the claim. You may then have the repair performed at a
facility of your choice, at the manufacturer's expense. (This
requirement only applies to Performance Warranty claims.)


What Do I Do If the Manufacturer Will Not Honor What I Believe to Be a
Valid Emissions Warranty Claim?

If you believe the manufacturer has not honored a valid claim and
your vehicle has not exceeded the time and mileage limitations, you
should contact an authorized warranty representative and follow the
procedures outlined in your owner's manual or warranty booklet. If the
authorized dealer denies your warranty claim, contact the
manufacturer's regional or zone office for further assistance. If you
are still not satisfied, follow the appeals procedure outlined in your
manual or warranty booklet.

Of course, you are entitled to pursue any independent legal
actions you consider appropriate to obtain coverage under the
emissions warranties. In addition, the Environmental Protection
Agency (EPA) is authorized to investigate the failure of manufacturers
to comply with the terms of these warranties. If you have followed
the manufacturer's procedures (including those for appeals) for making
a warranty claim as set out in your owner's manual or warranty
booklet, have received a written denial and you are not satisfied with
the manufacturer's determination, you may submit a letter to EPA at
the following address. It should provide details of the situation
including the basis for the claim, a copy of the written denial,
copies of your letters to the manufacturers, and copies of any
receipts for emission control parts and repairs you have paid for:

U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
Vehicle Programs & Compliance Division (6405J)
Attn: Warranty Complaints
401 M Street, SW
Washington, DC 20460

Other sources of assistance may be your local or State consumer
protection agency or office of the Attorney General. You also should
be aware that low-cost or free legal assistance may be available
through a local legal aid office, the State bar association, or a law
school clinic staffed by law students.


In Summary

If an emission control or emission related part, or a specified
major emission control component is defective, or if your vehicle
fails an I/M test, and your vehicle is within the time and mileage
limitations for emissions warranty coverage:

* Present a warranty claim to an authorized warranty representative.

If your warranty claim is denied:

* Ask for the reason for denial, in writing.

* Follow the appeal procedures in your owner's manual.

If you are not satisfied with the manufacturer's decision:

* Contact the EPA, which will investigate the denial of a
valid emissions warranty complaint.

Keep This With Your Vehicle for Future Reference.

Best matches for what is federal emission warranty
There

 

Thanks! A link would've been enough

Pretty comprehensive but wouldn't they just deny a cat claim as the OP had codes which he ignored for months? And that's assuming all the maintenance & servicing records are good.

It's funny how you guys get all these warranties (we don't) but we pay far more to buy cars (new or used).

 

We dont look or ask or care, you dont get much to replace a cat and anything other than, is just wasted time and lost money.
Links go away, donrt always work and i manytimes wont click a link...to copy and paste puts it here forever for all to see

 

Wow. It's so different here.
Like another country.

 

Meh, so is lewesianna, and massachewsets

 

Jeez even the spelling is different.
And the places....
When I was there, New England didn't seem new.
New York wasn't like York.
Very confusing.

 

@BRUTAL - You say 8/80 for the Federal Warranty, however, the dealership told me that this car was only covered to 7/70, and I called the California Air Resources Board who said the car's emission system etc was only covered up to 7 years or 70,000 miles.

@JAGV8 - Yes the work was completed. This mechanic is a stand-up guy who I have used before. If he screwed me over on this, I'd have to take apart the manifold etc to find out. I will run the car and the computer to see fluctuations who suggested. Thank you for the information.

@Josworth and others - I've used Mobil gas in this car since I've owned it, with the occasional Shell stop. The highest octane only.

Thanks for the info.... I will set an appointment with the dealer and hopefully get this taken care of....most likely with new Cats, but if it fixes the issue I will be happy, then once it's fixed I'll sell it!! HAHA

 

well maybe its differant in Cali (isnt everything, I guess I should have included Caly4nia in my above statement) Might be worth a trip to a Nevada dealer then
personally Im alittle surprised it would be less in Cali, and not longer

 

Alright.....the more I think about it, how is it possible that California can tell me that the car is covered 7/70,000 on the Catalytic Converter Warranty when the Federal Government, EPA, clearly states 8/80,000????


After even further research....yeah what I thought, the Federal EPA warranty DOES trump state. I wonder how many customers have paid for replacing Catalytic Converters when they didn't need to because the dealership told them they were only covered for 7/70,000.

Here's the most recent Live Data just as an FYI....on the phone with EPA in D.C. now to get some answers....

Live Data
DTC_CNT 0
FUELSYS1 CL
FUELSYS2 CL
LOAD_PCT(%) 18.4
ETC(°C) 95
SHRTFT1(%) 8.6
LONGFT1(%) 5.5
SHRTFT2(%) 9.4
LONGFT2(%) 8.6
FRP(kPa) 381
MAP(kPa) 25
RPM(/min) 1776
VSS(km/h) 0
SPARKADV(°) 33
IAT(°C) 35
MAF(g/s) 10.13
TP(%) 9.0
O2S B1S12--B2S12--
O2B1S2(V) 0.145
SHRTFTB1S2(%) -1.6
O2B2S2(V) 0.175
SHRTFTB2S2(%) -1.6
OBD OBD&OBD2
MIL_DIST(km) 0
EQ_RAT11 0.920
O2S11(mA) -0.488
EQ_RAT21 0.907
O2S21(mA) -0.148
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DTC_CNT 0
FUELSYS1 CL
FUELSYS2 CL
LOAD_PCT(%) 13.7
ETC(°C) 95
SHRTFT1(%) -8.6
LONGFT1(%) 13.3
SHRTFT2(%) -11.7
LONGFT2(%) 15.6
FRP(kPa) 378
MAP(kPa) 24
RPM(/min) 2534
VSS(km/h) 0
SPARKADV(°) 33
IAT(°C) 33
MAF(g/s) 12.50
TP(%) 10.2
O2S B1S12--B2S12--
O2B1S2(V) 0.590
SHRTFTB1S2(%) 0.0
O2B2S2(V) 0.790
SHRTFTB2S2(%) 0.0
OBD OBD&OBD2
MIL_DIST(km) 0
EQ_RAT11 0.898
O2S11(mA) -0.148
EQ_RAT21 0.879
O2S21(mA) -0.148
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DTC_CNT 0
FUELSYS1 CL
FUELSYS2 CL
LOAD_PCT(%) 13.7
ETC(°C) 94
SHRTFT1(%) -11.7
LONGFT1(%) 13.3
SHRTFT2(%) -11.7
LONGFT2(%) 15.6
FRP(kPa) 381
MAP(kPa) 25
RPM(/min) 2521
VSS(km/h) 0
SPARKADV(°) 33
IAT(°C) 33
MAF(g/s) 12.60
TP(%) 10.2
O2S B1S12--B2S12--
O2B1S2(V) 0.785
SHRTFTB1S2(%) 0.0
O2B2S2(V) 0.460
SHRTFTB2S2(%) -0.8
OBD OBD&OBD2
MIL_DIST(km) 0
EQ_RAT11 0.877
O2S11(mA) 0.051
EQ_RAT21 0.893
O2S21(mA) -0.539
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DTC_CNT 0
FUELSYS1 CL
FUELSYS2 CL
LOAD_PCT(%) 13.7
ETC(°C) 94
SHRTFT1(%) -11.7
LONGFT1(%) 13.3
SHRTFT2(%) -10.9
LONGFT2(%) 15.6
FRP(kPa) 387
MAP(kPa) 25
RPM(/min) 2583
VSS(km/h) 0
SPARKADV(°) 33
IAT(°C) 33
MAF(g/s) 12.50
TP(%) 10.2
O2S B1S12--B2S12--
O2B1S2(V) 0.195
SHRTFTB1S2(%) -0.8
O2B2S2(V) 0.560
SHRTFTB2S2(%) -1.6
OBD OBD&OBD2
MIL_DIST(km) 0
EQ_RAT11 0.907
O2S11(mA) -0.391
EQ_RAT21 0.889
O2S21(mA) -0.684
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DTC_CNT 0
FUELSYS1 CL
FUELSYS2 CL
LOAD_PCT(%) 13.7
ETC(°C) 95
SHRTFT1(%) -10.2
LONGFT1(%) 13.3
SHRTFT2(%) -11.7
LONGFT2(%) 15.6
FRP(kPa) 384
MAP(kPa) 24
RPM(/min) 2585
VSS(km/h) 0
SPARKADV(°) 32
IAT(°C) 34
MAF(g/s) 12.50
TP(%) 10.2
O2S B1S12--B2S12--
O2B1S2(V) 0.215
SHRTFTB1S2(%) 0.0
O2B2S2(V) 0.800
SHRTFTB2S2(%) -0.8
OBD OBD&OBD2
MIL_DIST(km) 0
EQ_RAT11 0.999
O2S11(mA) 4.883
EQ_RAT21 0.999
O2S21(mA) -3.957
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DTC_CNT 0
FUELSYS1 OL-Drive
FUELSYS2 OL-Drive
LOAD_PCT(%) 15.7
ETC(°C) 95
SHRTFT1(%) 0.0
LONGFT1(%) 3.9
SHRTFT2(%) 0.0
LONGFT2(%) 6.3
FRP(kPa) 378
MAP(kPa) 35
RPM(/min) 774
VSS(km/h) 0
SPARKADV(°) 8
IAT(°C) 36
MAF(g/s) 4.43
TP(%) 4.7
O2S B1S12--B2S12--
O2B1S2(V) 0.145
SHRTFTB1S2(%) 0.0
O2B2S2(V) 0.150
SHRTFTB2S2(%) -0.8
OBD OBD&OBD2
MIL_DIST(km) 0
EQ_RAT11 1.015
O2S11(mA) -1.465
EQ_RAT21 1.023
O2S21(mA) -1.418
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DTC_CNT 0
FUELSYS1 CL
FUELSYS2 CL
LOAD_PCT(%) 16.9
ETC(°C) 95
SHRTFT1(%) -2.3
LONGFT1(%) 3.9
SHRTFT2(%) -2.3
LONGFT2(%) 6.3
FRP(kPa) 378
MAP(kPa) 36
RPM(/min) 774
VSS(km/h) 0
SPARKADV(°) 8
IAT(°C) 38
MAF(g/s) 4.64
TP(%) 4.7
O2S B1S12--B2S12--
O2B1S2(V) 0.810
SHRTFTB1S2(%) 1.6
O2B2S2(V) 0.840
SHRTFTB2S2(%) 0.8
OBD OBD&OBD2
MIL_DIST(km) 0
EQ_RAT11 0.984
O2S11(mA) 0.000
EQ_RAT21 0.984
O2S21(mA) 0.246
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DTC_CNT 0
FUELSYS1 CL
FUELSYS2 CL
LOAD_PCT(%) 16.9
ETC(°C) 96
SHRTFT1(%) 0.0
LONGFT1(%) 3.9
SHRTFT2(%) -0.8
LONGFT2(%) 6.3
FRP(kPa) 384
MAP(kPa) 36
RPM(/min) 784
VSS(km/h) 0
SPARKADV(°) 8
IAT(°C) 38
MAF(g/s) 4.83
TP(%) 4.7
O2S B1S12--B2S12--
O2B1S2(V) 0.805
SHRTFTB1S2(%) 1.6
O2B2S2(V) 0.795
SHRTFTB2S2(%) 0.8
OBD OBD&OBD2
MIL_DIST(km) 0
EQ_RAT11 1.005
O2S11(mA) 0.293
EQ_RAT21 1.002
O2S21(mA) -0.051
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DTC_CNT 0
FUELSYS1 CL
FUELSYS2 CL
LOAD_PCT(%) 16.9
ETC(°C) 96
SHRTFT1(%) -3.9
LONGFT1(%) 3.9
SHRTFT2(%) -2.3
LONGFT2(%) 6.3
FRP(kPa) 384
MAP(kPa) 36
RPM(/min) 773
VSS(km/h) 0
SPARKADV(°) 8
IAT(°C) 39
MAF(g/s) 4.64
TP(%) 4.7
O2S B1S12--B2S12--
O2B1S2(V) 0.775
SHRTFTB1S2(%) 1.6
O2B2S2(V) 0.555
SHRTFTB2S2(%) 0.0
OBD OBD&OBD2
MIL_DIST(km) 0
EQ_RAT11 0.990
O2S11(mA) 0.148
EQ_RAT21 1.002
O2S21(mA) -0.098
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