Well after having the vehicle a few days, I noticed a small drip or 2 coming from the right side rear (nearside) engine underpan. After searching here I found that there is a "cheater" way of changing oil without removing entire underpan. Being a recent purchase, I contacted the convertered gas station dealer, and he mentioned "their mechanic" changed the oil prior to selling said vehicle, and that maybe he "cheated". Getting to the point now. I removed underpan this morning, it is filled with oil, BOTH sides of oil pan covered in oil. I have degreased and wiating for points of leakage. My question, Will it harm ANYTHING to drive a few days without the underpan? ('05, 3.0L,45,000 miles)

Thank you
Rick

Happy Motoring

 

nope
but you may have an oil pan gasket leaking or sometimes the oil filter gasket leaks .. make sure it is tight

 

I wouldn't drive it very far until I changed the oil myself. I would make sure that there is a fresh filter, and the proper viscosity premium oil in it. If there is a chance that the selling dealer "cheated", I wouldn't trust them to have used proper materials either. Heck they may have just assumed it takes 5 quarts like most others, and under filled it. After that, it should be OK, just be very, very careful. There are lines that are mounted pretty low, with the expectation that the protection of the under-pan is there. I'm a DIY person, but if you've just gotten the car I would schedule a service at the dealer and ask them to go over it for you. It will seem like a lot of money for an oil change, but you'll get a certified tech going over the car and letting you know if there is anything to be concerned about.

 

Thanks guys! I agree to change oil & filter, although the filter does appear to be new (exterior). I am afraid its going to be the oil pan gasket, we'll see. Its wifeys automobile, and she drives 1.7 miles to work and then home. I saw the low hanging lines, I think they will be fine for a day or so. Thanks for the advise.

Hey Jeff, I worked on the Akron,Copley boarder for 16 years for a company named Great Lakes Industrial Knife, ever hear of them?

 

the oil pan gasket is pretty cheap $37.00 the x type uses the same one

 

Ahh, so you escaped from the frozen North! I know where Copley is, but I don't get over to that side of town very much so unfortunately I haven't heard of them. I live in North Hill, which is off of Rt 8. I work up in Solon for a electrical connector supplier for the transportation industry. I'm not sure if I can say their name on here? Anyway, it's nice to here from someone who actually knows a little about this area.

 

Ever hear of Reminderville (Aurora Shores)? Yes gentlemen there is such a place in Oh. A stones throw from Solon. Ah glue

 

Yes I have heard of Reminderville. Hey you should jump on the "around the world" thread in the off topic section. I was posting a bunch of Ohio towns on there. Then again, may drive everyone else nuts if we both started posting places in Ohio.

 

Ok Jaguar Guru's, the leak appears to be coming from the pass. side rear valve cover gasket. I am undertaking this project on Saturday evening. Alldata claims about 5 hours (my timing 12 pack of cold 1's). My question, I have the (6) Intake gaskets, (1) Inner intake gasket and (1) Valve cover gasket, are there any other gaskets that I will need? Any advise on repair would be helpful as well. In photo I had wiped the oil drip off the bolt before photo was taken (rear most bolt)

Thank you again in advance!

Rick

 

Replace the tuning valve oring at the back of the intake once off

 

Thank you Genius, what about those rubber dounuts in photo? The rear 1 is coated in oil. Did I read also O rings or rubber boots at spark plug holes?

 

Update, I have replaced the yellow IMT O rings (with the green 1's), pass. side valve cover gasket(s) and upper intake. one of those were a problem, but still leaking. Looks like jag_genius "knew" it. I am looking at replacing the oil pan gasket. I have looked at all the oil pan gasket replacement posts but all seem to be on an X. Any advise for an on my back with jack stands wrencher for the S? Alldata says about 4 hours start to finish. Also any guesses as to why the yellow numbers (6-16-07) are painted on the pan?

Thank you "god-u-ars"
Rick

 

Yellow paint meens junk yard motor, ECEPT THEN IT SHOULD BE YR/MAKE/MODEL, NOT DATE. SO MAYBE IT WAS THE LAST TIME THE GASKET WAS DONE. IF ITS BROWN, ITS ORIGINAL, BLACK, ITS BEEN REPLACED and you have to jack up engine, and drop the steering rack from the subframe...uh yeah all on your back...glad its not mine, OH AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT HIGH ENOUGH TO TURN THE PAN PAST THE OIL PUMP PICKUP TO GET OUT

 

Thank you for the quick reply Brutal! I kinda had the idea she was a boneyard motor. SUCKS to be me (all the way around). Mums the word lets not tell the wifey. Well, whoever replaced the motor did a good job at not hacking wires, looms and all.

 

The conculsion of the story. It appears that the oil pan gasket need replacement as well. I started oil pan removal Thursday night, 3 hours to remove pan from motor. Drank some beers and patted myself on the back! Friday installed new gasket and pan, filled her up with lube juice 2.5 hours. Crossed my grimmy little fingies and drank more beers. Here it is Monday morning and NO lubbie juice on garage floor (no beers til later). I conquer with Brutal that the yellow date numbers were when the gasket was replaced and hopefully not a boneyard motor! All in all for 5.5 hours of my time and less than $75.00 in parts (cursid oil and filter price), I would do it all over again! I believe that I could actually do the job in 4 hours, as I now have found a couple of tricks. Oh yeah, did the job on my back.
Thank you to the techs
Rick

No more yellow numbers!! hehe

 

So, the dripping juice is solved... But, what about the droopy shrunk thingie? Still have that issue????

Congrats sir. Feels good when a job is done, huh?

 

Thanks for the congrats! Yes, I still suffer from the dreaded droppy shrinkage thingy issue. I will address that issue next along with another small issue. And when Mina gets me my pimped out chrome pieces I will be posting some pics.

 

GOOD JOB, NOW YOU COULD HAVE DONE IT IN A COUPLE HOURS WITH THE BEERS AFTERWARDS....i KNOW IT TAKES THE FUN OUT WHEN YOU DONT SEE 2 HOLES TRYING TO GET A BOLT IN...2 HOLES ARE HARD, 3 ARE EASY, YOU SHOOT FOR THE CENTER 1 EVERYTIME