Uneven Idle
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I'm gonna say you have an ignition coil that was going bad and has now finally given up the ghost. You will probably start to get hesitation on acceleration, and then finally the check engine light will come on. Once that happens you can have the code read and possibly be able to pinpoint and replace the bad coil.
#4
I'm gonna say you have an ignition coil that was going bad and has now finally given up the ghost. You will probably start to get hesitation on acceleration, and then finally the check engine light will come on. Once that happens you can have the code read and possibly be able to pinpoint and replace the bad coil.
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A diagnostic may well provide data pointing to what's wrong. But it may not be in the form of a straightforward code (DTC). Instead, it may be either a pending code and/or a sensor (or other reading) that's out of range.
The issues then can be that not all diagnostic devices provide access to these data and also many people (and I include some garage "technicians") cannot interpret them.
In case there are pending codes, be aware they won't necessarily turn into actual codes but may instead clear (in the case where the cause was something temporary).
It's especially important to read but NOT clear codes when trying to diagnose a problem, since it can take a lot of driving to get the car to re-flag the problem in the diagnostic data.
Idle problems are often air leaks. Often, small ones. Try listening through a length of thin plastic tubing, moving the end around the engine bay WITH CARE (moving parts!).
However, for the 4.0 it's more likely you have one or more bad coils.
You may be able to see misfires by monitoring the O2 sensors (OBD or a 'scope) but if you're inclined to try this spend some time reading about it on the net. You can also monitor the coil pulses (more reading!).
John
The issues then can be that not all diagnostic devices provide access to these data and also many people (and I include some garage "technicians") cannot interpret them.
In case there are pending codes, be aware they won't necessarily turn into actual codes but may instead clear (in the case where the cause was something temporary).
It's especially important to read but NOT clear codes when trying to diagnose a problem, since it can take a lot of driving to get the car to re-flag the problem in the diagnostic data.
Idle problems are often air leaks. Often, small ones. Try listening through a length of thin plastic tubing, moving the end around the engine bay WITH CARE (moving parts!).
However, for the 4.0 it's more likely you have one or more bad coils.
You may be able to see misfires by monitoring the O2 sensors (OBD or a 'scope) but if you're inclined to try this spend some time reading about it on the net. You can also monitor the coil pulses (more reading!).
John
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Well, I started with the easiest first. I bought a bottle of Techron fuel system cleaner and poured it into a nearly empty tank of gas that I filled. I used almost half a tank today (about a month's worth of driving for me in one day), and I see no improvement. Looks like a trip to my local mechanic is in order. Thanks for the replies.
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Part of your issue may be that you're not driving your car enough, especially highway miles. All cars' fuel systems do much better if they get enough uninterrupted highway driving to keep condensation on and in various parts (gas tank, fuel lines, exhaust system) to a minimum. Uninterrupted highway speeds also help to keep carbon deposits in your throttle body from building up too thickly. Frequent highway driving is often considered part of keeping a vehicle in good working order....
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Part of your issue may be that you're not driving your car enough, especially highway miles. All cars' fuel systems do much better if they get enough uninterrupted highway driving to keep condensation on and in various parts (gas tank, fuel lines, exhaust system) to a minimum. Uninterrupted highway speeds also help to keep carbon deposits in your throttle body from building up too thickly. Frequent highway driving is often considered part of keeping a vehicle in good working order....
Also run the car out to redline from a rolling start from ~30mph about once a week to keep the ring packs from getting gummed up.
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My 4.0 started to do the same thing and it was an ignition coil. They recommend that you replace all of them when they start to go bad. DO not go to a dealer unless you love giving you rmoney away.
You can get the ignition coils at autozone for 49 each. Take about an hour to replace them all. I also recommend replacing the iridum plugs. You can get them at autozone for 5 or 6 each. The dealer charges over a hundred.
You can get the ignition coils at autozone for 49 each. Take about an hour to replace them all. I also recommend replacing the iridum plugs. You can get them at autozone for 5 or 6 each. The dealer charges over a hundred.
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my 3.0 V6 sport was doing the same thing but with the check engine light on......hooked it up to the computer and it showed up as lean banks.......opened the hood and heard an air leak on the small 3 inch plastic pipe just up from the MAF filter...replaced with a peice of garden hose and the car drives like new.....ordered a new pipe from jaguar for $3.50....
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My 4.0 started to do the same thing and it was an ignition coil. They recommend that you replace all of them when they start to go bad. DO not go to a dealer unless you love giving you rmoney away.
You can get the ignition coils at autozone for 49 each. Take about an hour to replace them all. I also recommend replacing the iridum plugs. You can get them at autozone for 5 or 6 each. The dealer charges over a hundred.
You can get the ignition coils at autozone for 49 each. Take about an hour to replace them all. I also recommend replacing the iridum plugs. You can get them at autozone for 5 or 6 each. The dealer charges over a hundred.
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Deal of the century, why buy one at the dealer when you can buy all eight on Ebay!!
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I want to caveat and say that i am in know way affiliated with these people, but I did purchase replacement coils on ebay and they worked flawlessly.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2000-...ayphotohosting
I want to caveat and say that i am in know way affiliated with these people, but I did purchase replacement coils on ebay and they worked flawlessly.
#15
My 4.0 started to do the same thing and it was an ignition coil. They recommend that you replace all of them when they start to go bad. DO not go to a dealer unless you love giving you rmoney away.
You can get the ignition coils at autozone for 49 each. Take about an hour to replace them all. I also recommend replacing the iridum plugs. You can get them at autozone for 5 or 6 each. The dealer charges over a hundred.
You can get the ignition coils at autozone for 49 each. Take about an hour to replace them all. I also recommend replacing the iridum plugs. You can get them at autozone for 5 or 6 each. The dealer charges over a hundred.
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