What could be going on?
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I agree... It really has me curious why it's happening, that is why I posted a thread on it..
I did find your other comment funny though... The dealer would like me to move to a LR2.. I actually like them as well.. It all started when I stopped by to see them with all three kids in the car... Mike laughed....
I did find your other comment funny though... The dealer would like me to move to a LR2.. I actually like them as well.. It all started when I stopped by to see them with all three kids in the car... Mike laughed....
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I'm seriously considering picking up a used Discovery with the 4.6 as a winter car.
George
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Now replaced by the LR4 aka Discovery 4
LR2 as it is known Stateside is a smaller ute than the LR3/LR4....takes the place of the Freelander in the model lineup. Nice little ute actually, I had a few wheeling with me a few weeks ago and they managed to keep up with my P38 fairly well even if it does look like a gussied up CR-V
Range Rover is the full sized ute obviously, Range Rover Sport shares the LR3 platform rather than the full size Range Rover platform.
Range Rover Evoque soon to be coming out is the "crossover".....
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Jeff, they would fit better in an Escalade ESV. I happen to know of mines identical twin, for a really good price. Yes its from the same guy I purchased ours from. Man you would look good behind the wheel of it!
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Rick what year / color / options? (I'm sort of kinda looking for an SUV). I'm debating whether to buy a cheap older Jeep Grand Cherokee with the bulletproof 4.0 straight 6, or keep the "fleet" all luxury lol.
George
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OHHHHHHhhhhhhh georgiebaby, 2005, BIG and BLACK exterior, light sand interior, 4 captains and 3rd row bench, a few factory roof mount tvs, heated and cooled lazy boys (all 4) heated and cooled cup holders (all passengers and driver), 6.0 Vortec, MPG wise highway and city combined about 17 (not bad for a vehicle that weighs in at over 6,000 lbs. and is AWD), ummmm the only thing that is missing is a fireplace! VERY NICE vehicle!
Joyce is actually a bit envious because she used to get all the ooohhhs and aaaahhhhhs in the Jag, but now mouths drop even more when this vehicle rolls in.![Smile](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
George if you would be interested PM me and I can give you full details. Or look up 2005 Escalade ESV Platinum Edition. I haven't talked with the owner (Hiram) in a month or so, but he did say he was looking to sell around this time. As a matter of fact we might be selling ours near Feb. of 2011 to purchase one of his 2007's. "Hiram" is a private seller, not a dealership.
Joyce is actually a bit envious because she used to get all the ooohhhs and aaaahhhhhs in the Jag, but now mouths drop even more when this vehicle rolls in.
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George if you would be interested PM me and I can give you full details. Or look up 2005 Escalade ESV Platinum Edition. I haven't talked with the owner (Hiram) in a month or so, but he did say he was looking to sell around this time. As a matter of fact we might be selling ours near Feb. of 2011 to purchase one of his 2007's. "Hiram" is a private seller, not a dealership.
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Just a real quick update since I don't actually have the car back yet.
Granted, they didn't really get into the mechanical fault until last Wednesday. They needed me to take it out with the service manager to get it to trip the codes. They knew something was wrong but needed fresh codes in order to get it covered.
So, after tripping the "restricted performance" and MIL they proceeded to diagnose it as a failed bank 2 catalytic converter. I guess that makes some sense since a plugged / restricted exhaust would make the car act up as RPM increased. I reserve firm judgment until I get the car back.
Another note: The car was technically ready for pickup on Friday. I happened to have off on Friday since my Dad was coming out to see the kids. I explained that to Mike and said I really didn't want to have to go 40 minutes one way while my Dad was here... His response... Don't worry about it, come in Monday, enjoy your family time... What a great place.
Granted, they didn't really get into the mechanical fault until last Wednesday. They needed me to take it out with the service manager to get it to trip the codes. They knew something was wrong but needed fresh codes in order to get it covered.
So, after tripping the "restricted performance" and MIL they proceeded to diagnose it as a failed bank 2 catalytic converter. I guess that makes some sense since a plugged / restricted exhaust would make the car act up as RPM increased. I reserve firm judgment until I get the car back.
Another note: The car was technically ready for pickup on Friday. I happened to have off on Friday since my Dad was coming out to see the kids. I explained that to Mike and said I really didn't want to have to go 40 minutes one way while my Dad was here... His response... Don't worry about it, come in Monday, enjoy your family time... What a great place.
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When is your dealer going to give you a Maserati as a loaner?
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The bad catalytic converter seems like a logical candidate. Kind of early though it seems.
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Well, I didn't get it back until last night. Drove home in the pouring rain. It was dry this morning so I had a chance to get in it again. All seems fine. It drives great and revs up to red line just like it used to.
So, remember that DTC's are just hints and not the only diagnosis. To be honest it is a lesson for me as well. At 67k, the cat is the last place I would have looked giving the codes I was getting...But in the end it makes sense. It was the down pipe cat that was replaced, so there is an O2 sensor down stream from it. So, as rpm increased, the Bank 2 O2 sensors must have read an issue and the PCM tried to compensate, causing the misfires. At least that is roughly how it was explained to me. Here I would have started with fuel delivery as opposed to the exhaust..
Thank goodness for the warranty...
Oh, I got "yelled" at for having "crappy brakes". After being out of it for over a week he's right.. The pads and rotors are fine, I need to flush and change the brake fluid. The pedal is real soft... Uggg. Such a fun job!
Oh, and the tech didn't like how my recently changed fuel filter looked so he put one in for $0. LOL, I just changed it recently, but it was a Motocraft filter and not the "Jaguar" one.. Nice touch though..
So, remember that DTC's are just hints and not the only diagnosis. To be honest it is a lesson for me as well. At 67k, the cat is the last place I would have looked giving the codes I was getting...But in the end it makes sense. It was the down pipe cat that was replaced, so there is an O2 sensor down stream from it. So, as rpm increased, the Bank 2 O2 sensors must have read an issue and the PCM tried to compensate, causing the misfires. At least that is roughly how it was explained to me. Here I would have started with fuel delivery as opposed to the exhaust..
Thank goodness for the warranty...
Oh, I got "yelled" at for having "crappy brakes". After being out of it for over a week he's right.. The pads and rotors are fine, I need to flush and change the brake fluid. The pedal is real soft... Uggg. Such a fun job!
Oh, and the tech didn't like how my recently changed fuel filter looked so he put one in for $0. LOL, I just changed it recently, but it was a Motocraft filter and not the "Jaguar" one.. Nice touch though..
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