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So my 2008 S-type 3.0 needs a full brake job. It has 305mm rotors in the front, 300mm rotors in the rear. While they aren't readily available, I can find the 305mm rotors at a few reputable brake parts shops, but the 300mm rotors seem to be practically extinct. Worse, I can't seem to cross reference any other make/model of vehicle that used the same rotor to try to shop for some. Anybody know of any places or other vehicles that used the same size rotors? I'm looking for basic stock stuff, don't need any high performance drilled/slotted types.

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Old 05-20-2015, 07:10 PM
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I'm actually planning to purchase new pads and rotors soon as well. This morning I took a gander on Amazon and noticed some of their prices were lower than the big box auto stores.

I'm currently looking at Centric rotors. I put them on my Volvo and haven't had any issues.

Now, I may be wrong and if I am please someone correct me, but I believe the 2008 3.0 needs 326mm rotors for both front and back.
 
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Thanks for responding Sal. I would agree with you that 326mm was the size all around since most of the 10 different sites I comparison shopped defaulted to that size, but let me tell you how disappointed I was last Saturday when I ripped the pads off, followed by hammering the rotor free to find out that 326mm was not correct. I don't know the details of the manufacturing change (anybody know??) but all I can say is measure your rotors closely before you order.

On the upside, if yours are 326mm, have I got a deal for you! Even have the hubs of the rotors painted black so there is no rust! Seriously, since I painted the hubs, I can't return them so let me know if you would like them and I can send you the details.

In the mean time, anybody else have any idea where I can find these rotors? Especially the rear ones.

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Hi kbhonline,

Sorry you're having trouble finding the correct size rotors. I just took a look at the Jaguar Electronic Parts Catalog (EPC), which you can download and install free from this forum. I don't know how the VINs break out on the S-Type, but, for example, the EPC shows that from VIN (M45255) to VIN (N52047), for the front rotors there was both a 300mm option (JLM20801) and a 320mm option (C2C8354).

For the rears, the EPC shows only one option (with no size given) for that same VIN range, but from VIN (N52048), it shows two options, a 300mm (C2C25338) and a 326mm (C2C25339).

I would think that any of the good independent Jaguar parts specialists should be able to help you with OEM and aftermarket options based on your VIN. Check with our forum sponsors Coventry West, SNG Barratt and Jagbits, who offer discounts to forum members. I just checked RockAuto and they also show a couple of 300mm options for a 2008 S-Type 3.0.

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Click link above - we have 300mm in stock..
 
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kbhonline listen to what Don said above. That is your entire problem.

Jaguar makes running changes based on the serial number of your car. These changes may or may not line up with the different model years.

So ANYTIME you are asking questions or sourcing parts you MUST provide the last 6 digits of your VIN.

Otherwise you will get the results you have now. The wrong parts.
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Hi All
Thanks for the tips and feedback thus far. I did get the EPC going and it shows my model year within the VIN (my last VIN are N86372) having 2 rotor sizes both 326 f/r and 305f/300r.

Interestingly some of the sites suggested actually have the wrong part number for my car, even though it is in the vin spec. I took the leap and called my local jag dealer and even they were scratching their heads as they said my car should have 326mm on both and they hadn't ordered my size rotors (front or rear) ever in the history they keep in their system...go figure. So while I'm 100% sure the rears are 300mm (or 11 13/16 inches as measured) I held up the 326mm to the fronts while doing a fluid bleed and they were tangibly larger than what is currently on there, but to be sure I'm going to have to pull the front and measure them as well to ensure that they are in fact 305mm.
Sadly, it seems that 326mm can be purchased in hundreds of places for well under $100 each, with the 300mm being hardly available, ordering 2 will cost me hundreds of dollars.

Interestingly, even on this site I used the VIN Decoder and it too indicates that I (should) have the 326mm rotors. All equipment looks original (except for pads) so I can't imagine that someone actually installed smaller calipers and rotors on this car (I bought it January 2014 from a dealer, previously had one owner).

So this is an interesting mystery. I welcome more feedback, hoping to find someone who has experienced the same thing.

Don, thanks for your feedback. RockAuto lists the two size options, but unfortunately can only get the front rotors, rears not available.
 
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SNG Barratt shows them for $40.80 a piece. (?)
 
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SNG Barratt shows them for $40.80 a piece. (?)
Thanks Mieky, but I'm quite certain that's the wrong part.. Those are Front 300mm for older models, up to 2006. I wish it was that easy. Using their search on the part number C2C25338, they have them for $320.79...not sure if that is each or pair.
 
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Spoke to SNG Barrett, they confirmed the only rotors they have for me are $320 each...ugh.
So, here's a thought. Since 326mm seem to be the common size out there AND are included in my VIN series, what are your thoughts about me changing out the calipers? EPC shows the only parts that differ based on rotor size are the rotors (no kidding), the Caliper housing and the Anchor Bracket for the 3.0.

I can tell you the 326mm rotors slide perfectly on the hub (at least the rear anyway) and even up with the shield. The pads are the same regardless of rotor size so seemingly the only difference would be the distance of the reach of the caliper from the mount to the outside diameter of the rotor.

Anybody have any thoughts or experience on this?

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Jagbits lists two rotors for $419.21

Jaguar BRAKE ROTOR REAR 300mm, SET OF TWO - C2C25338

which appear to be OEM parts. Possibly there's no aftermarket/jobber versions available?
 
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According to the delaer in Merriam, Kansas, Jaguar has discontinued the C2C25338 300 mm rotors:

2008 Jaguar S-Type Parts - Jaguar Parts Center - Call (800) 510-1401 for Genuine Jaguar Parts and Accessories


kbhonline,

If your current calipers will not fit over the 326mm discs, one option would be to have a machine shop turn the discs down to 300mm.... That might be less expensive than buying different calipers.
 
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>two rotors for $419.21

AND... that's why my f/r replacement of pads/rotors, by my local repair-dude, cost over $1200 when he got parts directly from the nearest Jaguar dealer

But according to him, everything fit exactly, and the whole thing went together like butt'ah
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Brakes. I don't know why you are having trouble finding parts. I just did all 4 brakes with a kit from Amazon $170 for pads, clips, and rotors. The local Jag dealer here wanted $1413 for the same parts. It has been two weeks and everything works just fine. I spray paint the rotors on the hub and the edge with flat black 2000 degree paint. Eliminates that rust line that rotors get. One can does all of it for $7 at Wally World.
 
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Brakes. I don't know why you are having trouble finding parts.
Did you read the thread?
 
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Brakes. I don't know why you are having trouble finding parts. I just did all 4 brakes with a kit from Amazon $170 for pads, clips, and rotors. The local Jag dealer here wanted $1413 for the same parts. It has been two weeks and everything works just fine. I spray paint the rotors on the hub and the edge with flat black 2000 degree paint. Eliminates that rust line that rotors get. One can does all of it for $7 at Wally World.
Thanks David but I've been that route AND ordered the wrong parts believing the many inaccurate sites out there that think there are only one type of rotor on the 2008s. I wish my world was that easy (it always has been in all my past vehicles) but in this case I am stuck with very limited, high priced options. Since then, I have called and spoken to the mass sellers out there of aftermarket products and none of them carry the rear 300mm rotors for my vehicle and only a few carry the 305mm for the front. Sadly the old 300mm rotors for the older years of the s-type aren't even the same as the ones on my car, so even though they are the same "size", they are not the same rotor.
 
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Originally Posted by Don B
If your current calipers will not fit over the 326mm discs, one option would be to have a machine shop turn the discs down to 300mm.... That might be less expensive than buying different calipers.
Did you consider Don's suggestion? Seems like a plan.
 
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Originally Posted by Don B
According to the delaer in Merriam, Kansas, Jaguar has discontinued the C2C25338 300 mm rotors:

2008 Jaguar S-Type Parts - Jaguar Parts Center - Call (800) 510-1401 for Genuine Jaguar Parts and Accessories


kbhonline,

If your current calipers will not fit over the 326mm discs, one option would be to have a machine shop turn the discs down to 300mm.... That might be less expensive than buying different calipers.
Thanks for the idea Don, I will have to take a look at the rotors and see if there is enough room on the edge to take it down without hitting the vent fins.
 
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Thanks for the idea Don, I will have to take a look at the rotors and see if there is enough room on the edge to take it down without hitting the vent fins.
Would it matter if the ribs were machined too?
 
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Removing 26 mm dia. (13mm radius) is a good chunk of metal. Most machine shops would refuse the task due to liability reasons. Even if, the cost of doing the job properly including radiusing the machined edges might exceed that of just buying the correct rotors @$200 a pop.
 


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