Wife had restricted preformance pop up
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Wife on way home today had restricted preformance pop up. She said she was going up a hill engine light came on and restricted preformance popped up. She said car ran the same never changed at all. After about a mile the restricted preformance message went out.
I broke out my scanner when she got home..ERROR code ..p0171 p1111
I fiqured the code may be the result of a new air filter I replaced last week that was the wrong size ( fram needs to get the right part number for jags)
So I just ordered a new K&N air filter.
My question is does this seem right?
Should I look elsewhere?
Could it be a vac. hose?
I cleaned the MAF last week with MAF cleaner (I am a pro at this thanks to my old Toyota)
I broke out my scanner when she got home..ERROR code ..p0171 p1111
I fiqured the code may be the result of a new air filter I replaced last week that was the wrong size ( fram needs to get the right part number for jags)
So I just ordered a new K&N air filter.
My question is does this seem right?
Should I look elsewhere?
Could it be a vac. hose?
I cleaned the MAF last week with MAF cleaner (I am a pro at this thanks to my old Toyota)
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P0171= Bank 1 running lean:
-Air Leak between MAF Sensor and Cylinder Head
-MAF Sensor
-Fuel System, faulty injector, fuel filter (another easy fix)
-Exhaust Leak before Catalyst
P1111 normal ( nothing to worry about)
I would start at the MAF Sensor, try cleaning it with MAF specific cleaner fast and easy to do. Its located just left of the air box on the intake tube. If your scanner can do real time or freeze frame data, get the number of the MAF sensor itself and we can compare.
-Air Leak between MAF Sensor and Cylinder Head
-MAF Sensor
-Fuel System, faulty injector, fuel filter (another easy fix)
-Exhaust Leak before Catalyst
P1111 normal ( nothing to worry about)
I would start at the MAF Sensor, try cleaning it with MAF specific cleaner fast and easy to do. Its located just left of the air box on the intake tube. If your scanner can do real time or freeze frame data, get the number of the MAF sensor itself and we can compare.
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Yeah I cleaned the MAF last week with MAF cleaner
I also replaced the fuel filter 2 weeks ago and run Lucas fuel injector cleaner every tank or every other tank full.
It may be a exhaust leak but it is quite, I did put a new o2 pre cat sensor in last week. Do you think maybe it's not tight enough?
I used a $250 delphi sensor not a cheapo.
I'll check all vac hoses and see if it triggers again.
I also replaced the fuel filter 2 weeks ago and run Lucas fuel injector cleaner every tank or every other tank full.
It may be a exhaust leak but it is quite, I did put a new o2 pre cat sensor in last week. Do you think maybe it's not tight enough?
I used a $250 delphi sensor not a cheapo.
I'll check all vac hoses and see if it triggers again.
Last edited by achysklic; 03-08-2011 at 07:29 PM.
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Wife on way home today had restricted preformance pop up. She said she was going up a hill engine light came on and restricted preformance popped up. She said car ran the same never changed at all. After about a mile the restricted preformance message went out.
I broke out my scanner when she got home..ERROR code ..p0171 p1111
I fiqured the code may be the result of a new air filter I replaced last week that was the wrong size ( fram needs to get the right part number for jags)
So I just ordered a new K&N air filter.
My question is does this seem right?
Should I look elsewhere?
Could it be a vac. hose?
I cleaned the MAF last week with MAF cleaner (I am a pro at this thanks to my old Toyota)
I broke out my scanner when she got home..ERROR code ..p0171 p1111
I fiqured the code may be the result of a new air filter I replaced last week that was the wrong size ( fram needs to get the right part number for jags)
So I just ordered a new K&N air filter.
My question is does this seem right?
Should I look elsewhere?
Could it be a vac. hose?
I cleaned the MAF last week with MAF cleaner (I am a pro at this thanks to my old Toyota)
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Thanks guys I am going to check for vac leaks, I would think that is prob. it..
The o2 sensor I use I have checked compat several times it says it's the right one.
http://www.amazon.com/Delphi-ES10939...2005&carId=010
I got to thinking I had this happen once, the o ring around the MAF was cracked and would throw codes.. I am gonna check that!!!
It is possible the MAF could have went bad after cleaning I have heard of it happening.
I am also why I am at it going to clean the throttle body really good..
The o2 sensor I use I have checked compat several times it says it's the right one.
http://www.amazon.com/Delphi-ES10939...2005&carId=010
I got to thinking I had this happen once, the o ring around the MAF was cracked and would throw codes.. I am gonna check that!!!
It is possible the MAF could have went bad after cleaning I have heard of it happening.
I am also why I am at it going to clean the throttle body really good..
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Where did you check it at?
I checked it again, with one on ebay and it says the same thing that it fits a 2005 jaguar s type 4.2 front.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Delph...Q5fAccessories
Last edited by achysklic; 03-09-2011 at 07:46 AM.
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Yeah I triple checked on the amazon link as well as the ebay link and both confirmed it was the correct one.
Wonder why it said when you checked it was incorrect?
You got me paranoid...lol
I just checked another site it says it's correct as well
http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/de...ELES10939.html
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This post sure caught my eye.
I have the same issue with RP, when going uphill. After a few tanks of fuel, I can now replicate the RP Message at will.
It only occurs when traveling uphill (>= 5% grade), at speeds greater than 40 mph, with a full tank of fuel.
After 20-30 miles off of a full tank, the uphill climb will no longer throw the RP.
I can't pull codes on the go unfortunately, as my laptop died and got replaced by an ipad.
I am suspecting a bad fuel cap seal first as I don't have any vacuum release when I release the fuel cap.
Hopefully this helps.
I have the same issue with RP, when going uphill. After a few tanks of fuel, I can now replicate the RP Message at will.
It only occurs when traveling uphill (>= 5% grade), at speeds greater than 40 mph, with a full tank of fuel.
After 20-30 miles off of a full tank, the uphill climb will no longer throw the RP.
I can't pull codes on the go unfortunately, as my laptop died and got replaced by an ipad.
I am suspecting a bad fuel cap seal first as I don't have any vacuum release when I release the fuel cap.
Hopefully this helps.
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Just a quick update from this morning...
After 5 months of check engine (threw codes for cat, throttle body,maf), my CEL is clear & no resticted performance.
The answer... New gas cap![Icon Doh](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_doh.gif)
I had known this in years past and just let this slide because I didn't think cat & O2 sensor codes would be related to a gas cap.
So to the OP, this is definately one of the cheapest places to start.
Hope this helps.
chris
After 5 months of check engine (threw codes for cat, throttle body,maf), my CEL is clear & no resticted performance.
The answer... New gas cap
![Icon Doh](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_doh.gif)
I had known this in years past and just let this slide because I didn't think cat & O2 sensor codes would be related to a gas cap.
So to the OP, this is definately one of the cheapest places to start.
Hope this helps.
chris
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Update mine started throwing the code about every 3 -4 miles. I would clear it then down the road it would pop up again. Yesterday evening my K&N air filter arrived I took the junk new fram filter out, sparyed throttle body cleaner in the throttle body and wiped it clean, installed new air filter...
So far I drove quite abit last night and today and not one cel has popped up..WOOHOO hope it's fixed....Also I like the beefier sound it has now with the K&N filter!
So far I drove quite abit last night and today and not one cel has popped up..WOOHOO hope it's fixed....Also I like the beefier sound it has now with the K&N filter!
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Had been getting restricted performance/CEL (DTC P0171) for about a week. Restricted peformance only lasts a couple of miles, then goes out. Used a chemical smoke stick to look for vacuum leaks, and found none. MAFS looked clean, problem kept surfacing. Cleaned the throttle body while the induction duct was off and took another look at the MAFS. There are ports on either side of the, I guess it's a pitot, and one side has what looks like some sensors in it. Used a brigt light and noticed a small, maybe 1/4X1/8" piece of grass up in there. Got it out and have driven ~100 miles with no further CEL. The moral of the story is, when you change air filter, wipe out or vacuum the filter housing box.
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