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Old 10-30-2010, 02:08 PM
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Default Window issue *Not what you think!*

For starters I know I am new here but I have lurked around for a while. Generally there is a lot of good information here and thanks to a lot of you I have been able to get some very annoying problems fixed that have otherwise confused mechanics/dealers, etc.

I swear to God I searched for something on my problem but could not find anything!!

My window problem is intermittent. I have a 2003 S Type V6 and as we all know, if the driver's door is open, the windows will not go up or down. Sometimes I will get in the car and want to put the window down and nothing happens. Then I will open and close the door again and still nothing. I will do this sometimes 20 times before the windows will work again. Then, sometimes they work just fine with no issues. I know this is long-winded but if anyone has any ideas I would appreciate it.
 
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Old 10-30-2010, 02:12 PM
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First things first - check your fuses. The one that controls your window motor/regulator may be loose. Opening and closing your door may be temporarily establishing electrical contact, allowing your window to work for a moment. Find the correct fuse using the fuse box diagram in your owners manual, pull it, and re-seat it. If you're extremely lucky, that's your problem. If not, it could be an issue with your window motor....
 
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I will do that. Also, once the windows work, they will keep working until the door is opened again. So I could drive down a gravel road with massive potholes and they keep working. I thought that maybe the vibration of driving would cause them to stop working but that does not seem to be the case. It's really frustrating!

I love the car but somethings are just hard to diagnose. You don't even want to know what I went through with the misfire on cylinder 5 only to learn that was as simple as replacing two $9 gaskets...
 
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Old 10-30-2010, 07:12 PM
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Yep, I'm sure those two gaskets were the infamous factory Intake Manifold Tuner Valve O-rings, a well-know defect in these cars. Many of us have had the same experience with them as you did and replaced them ourselves with the new-and-improved version. That usually fixes these particular issues....
 
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I would start by inspecting the plug coming out of the door harness in the kick panel foot well.

You can check JTIS for color code of the window wires and check the resistance and continuity when you move the harness located in the jamb you might have a damaged wire or 2.
 
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I would first spray the door latch with white Lithium grease. And then open and close door several times to work it in. Get it at any parts place. I get mine at Auto Zone. Do all 4 doors. Might be the system is having trouble with a door sensor??
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My windows operate with my doors open. That's why I'm pointing them to the door loom. Possible fatigued wire or two
 
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Originally Posted by Mafioso
My windows operate with my doors open. That's why I'm pointing them to the door loom. Possible fatigued wire or two
Yes, I agree. Mine go up and down with the door open as well. The only effect opening the door has is it shuts off the accessory delay that allows you to operate the windows after the ignition is off...

Hmmm...Brutal has stated that a weak point in this model is the ignition switch (electrical part, not the mechanical) and that he has replaced quite a few. Just a wild @ss guess, but maybe the two are related and something is getting "confused" in the control module. Again, just a guess and wouldn't do anything without testing...
 
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Originally Posted by JOsworth
Hmmm...Brutal has stated that a weak point in this model is the ignition switch (electrical part, not the mechanical) and that he has replaced quite a few. Just a wild @ss guess, but maybe the two are related and something is getting "confused" in the control module. Again, just a guess and wouldn't do anything without testing...
Ummm, NO, not for this. But on that type operation or lack there of, the biggest issues is the drivers door switch pack
 
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Originally Posted by Brutal
Ummm, NO, not for this. But on that type operation or lack there of, the biggest issues is the drivers door switch pack
OK, there ya go...Test / Replace the switch pack.

He He, I knew if I dropped your name, Brutal, you would come... LOL
 
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