ZF 6HP26 Drained-and-Filled Again This Morning....
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That would be the one I would choose. Like Jon has stated more than once, going through the hassle of getting the fill plug out, it only makes sense to drain and fill.
I would hope ZenFly knows the ins and outs of the fill plug. It's not just as simple of loosening it up to retrieve a small sample, I don't think.
I would hope ZenFly knows the ins and outs of the fill plug. It's not just as simple of loosening it up to retrieve a small sample, I don't think.
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FYI, just had mine done using this kit:
http://www.thectsc.com/products/oil-change-kit-for-bmw-hyundai-jaguar-land-rover-rolls-royce-186-50.html
$260, short money...
Just doit
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http://www.thectsc.com/products/oil-change-kit-for-bmw-hyundai-jaguar-land-rover-rolls-royce-186-50.html
$260, short money...
Just doit
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FYI, just had mine done using this kit:
http://www.thectsc.com/products/oil-change-kit-for-bmw-hyundai-jaguar-land-rover-rolls-royce-186-50.html
$260, short money...
Just doit
================================================== =
You dreamed of a big star
he played a mean guitar
He loved to drive his Jaguar...
So welcome to the machine
http://www.thectsc.com/products/oil-change-kit-for-bmw-hyundai-jaguar-land-rover-rolls-royce-186-50.html
$260, short money...
Just doit
================================================== =
You dreamed of a big star
he played a mean guitar
He loved to drive his Jaguar...
So welcome to the machine
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FYI, just had mine done using this kit:
http://www.thectsc.com/products/oil-change-kit-for-bmw-hyundai-jaguar-land-rover-rolls-royce-186-50.html
$260, short money...
Just doit
================================================== =
You dreamed of a big star
he played a mean guitar
He loved to drive his Jaguar...
So welcome to the machine
http://www.thectsc.com/products/oil-change-kit-for-bmw-hyundai-jaguar-land-rover-rolls-royce-186-50.html
$260, short money...
Just doit
================================================== =
You dreamed of a big star
he played a mean guitar
He loved to drive his Jaguar...
So welcome to the machine
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Last edited by ZenFly; 10-29-2015 at 05:10 AM.
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https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...alysis-100677/
Last edited by ZenFly; 10-29-2015 at 05:37 PM.
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Zenfly, thanks for the link to Blackstone analysis of the original transmission oil. That's enlightening. FYI I changed my fluid with Mercon SP several years ago like several other forum members did. I did not prescribe to the lifetime fluid and the Blackstone report only reinforced that point. Lifeguard is not a magic fluid.
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Yes. The only way to get ALL of the old ATF out is to flush the transmission instead of doing a drain-and-fill or a pan drop, but flushing introduces a new set of risks such as dredging up long-settled debris and getting it stuck in the valve bodies. I will not take that risk, some owners will, but it's your call....
The ZF 6HP26 holds 10 litres of ATF when full. Just pulling the drain plug typically gets 4 to 5 litres out of it. Those who have dropped the pan and allowed the car to drain overnight report getting as much as 7 litres out of it. I would be very happy with a 7-litre drain. I was concerned about our initial 4-quart drain-and-fill last November. That's why we did another drain-and-fill yesterday (resulting in the very same 4-quart figure). That's enough replaced ATF now to satisfy me for the duration of the time this car spends in our stable....
The ZF 6HP26 holds 10 litres of ATF when full. Just pulling the drain plug typically gets 4 to 5 litres out of it. Those who have dropped the pan and allowed the car to drain overnight report getting as much as 7 litres out of it. I would be very happy with a 7-litre drain. I was concerned about our initial 4-quart drain-and-fill last November. That's why we did another drain-and-fill yesterday (resulting in the very same 4-quart figure). That's enough replaced ATF now to satisfy me for the duration of the time this car spends in our stable....
Last edited by ZenFly; 10-31-2015 at 07:09 AM.
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I think you've got some false impressions and data. I believe ZF do not suggest to drain and fill.
Some places and people suggest it as a fairly easy thing to do, that is all.
I think ZF say to change it all. I am sure that is the intention, at least.
I don't believe you can tell the condition of the fluid from its temperature. All that would tell you is if the trans is overheating, which they don't generally seem to do.
The only (*) way to check the fluid level is to remove the (fill) plug and follow the ZF documented procedure.
(*) well, you could remove the whole trans and weigh it LOL
On putting trans fluid into an engine yes it's an old trick, quite often posted on this site. Search if you want to...
Some places and people suggest it as a fairly easy thing to do, that is all.
I think ZF say to change it all. I am sure that is the intention, at least.
I don't believe you can tell the condition of the fluid from its temperature. All that would tell you is if the trans is overheating, which they don't generally seem to do.
The only (*) way to check the fluid level is to remove the (fill) plug and follow the ZF documented procedure.
(*) well, you could remove the whole trans and weigh it LOL
On putting trans fluid into an engine yes it's an old trick, quite often posted on this site. Search if you want to...
Last edited by JagV8; 10-31-2015 at 07:32 AM.
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I think you've got some false impressions and data. I believe ZF do not suggest to drain and fill.
Some places and people suggest it as a fairly easy thing to do, that is all.
I think ZF say to change it all. I am sure that is the intention, at least.
I don't believe you can tell the condition of the fluid from its temperature. All that would tell you is if the trans is overheating, which they don't generally seem to do.
The only (*) way to check the fluid level is to remove the (fill) plug and follow the ZF documented procedure.
(*) well, you could remove the whole trans and weigh it LOL
On putting trans fluid into an engine yes it's an old trick, quite often posted on this site. Search if you want to...
Some places and people suggest it as a fairly easy thing to do, that is all.
I think ZF say to change it all. I am sure that is the intention, at least.
I don't believe you can tell the condition of the fluid from its temperature. All that would tell you is if the trans is overheating, which they don't generally seem to do.
The only (*) way to check the fluid level is to remove the (fill) plug and follow the ZF documented procedure.
(*) well, you could remove the whole trans and weigh it LOL
On putting trans fluid into an engine yes it's an old trick, quite often posted on this site. Search if you want to...
I only said that about ZF because their service kits include a pan and 6qts on their site.. At least the PDF one I was reading. I was happy to learn here that Mercon SP has been working out as well as a few others.
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http://www.zf.com/media/media/docume...hselkit_EN.pdf
In the beginning Jon89 mentioned not wanting to disturb sediments (flushing) and I wondered how that could be with the detergents in ATF but I came to realize stuff/particulates could be slung to the outside of the torque converter and stay there..It's a centrifuge at engine speed and I would think anything heavier that oil could collect there. I remember when I did work on cars (70s)there was often an inspection plate on the bottom rear of the bell housing and remember it gave access to the torque converter drain plug.
In the beginning Jon89 mentioned not wanting to disturb sediments (flushing) and I wondered how that could be with the detergents in ATF but I came to realize stuff/particulates could be slung to the outside of the torque converter and stay there..It's a centrifuge at engine speed and I would think anything heavier that oil could collect there. I remember when I did work on cars (70s)there was often an inspection plate on the bottom rear of the bell housing and remember it gave access to the torque converter drain plug.
Last edited by ZenFly; 10-31-2015 at 09:56 AM.
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That's a PDF not a kit...
I expect if you choose to change the fluid via the way often posted here you need the amount of fluid usually posted. But as also posted you've not changed all the fluid.
Some people over here have had a full service done by ZF and I understand that is all the oil.
We've been round this loop before on this site: ideally you change all the oil but that's not easy so people do what they can - about 6l of 10l. Some do it twice, to get more of it changed.
I expect if you choose to change the fluid via the way often posted here you need the amount of fluid usually posted. But as also posted you've not changed all the fluid.
Some people over here have had a full service done by ZF and I understand that is all the oil.
We've been round this loop before on this site: ideally you change all the oil but that's not easy so people do what they can - about 6l of 10l. Some do it twice, to get more of it changed.
Last edited by JagV8; 10-31-2015 at 09:47 AM.
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ZenFly (10-31-2015)
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Here is the "drain and fill" right from the ZF Education Center and it looks just as the boys did way up top here. A ZF suggested procedure.
Welcome to the ZF Education Center, In this video, we would like to cover the oil change intervals for 6HP transmissions, why to use genuine ZF LifeguardFluid and filters, and provide basic instruction for changing the fluid in the ZF 6HP series transmission.
Welcome to the ZF Education Center, In this video, we would like to cover the oil change intervals for 6HP transmissions, why to use genuine ZF LifeguardFluid and filters, and provide basic instruction for changing the fluid in the ZF 6HP series transmission.
Last edited by ZenFly; 10-31-2015 at 11:24 AM.
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