Does Anyone Regularly Track or Auto Cross?
#21
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We had a discussion some time ago - if you drive the car tamely in dynamic mode, does it learn that style? The car certainly changes (for the better) after break-in, and with some aggressive driving. I find that the transmission has always been very responsive and quick to shift, but it seems to hold gears a bit longer after I lift than I used too.
I do like the corner and hill detection in the transmission - doesn't upshift as readily.
I do like the corner and hill detection in the transmission - doesn't upshift as readily.
#22
As mentioned in another thread, my Cayman S has been totalled in an accident (may she rest in peace). LOVED that car. Currently have an FType S, but never tracked or Auto X ed it, and would love to hear feedback from anyone who has. I'm just not certain the F is suited to it, nor robust enough for it.
That said it doesn't mean it isn't a whole lot of fun on a track. Any car with a G-meter can be fun on the track. I was typically 5 -6 seconds slower per lap than in my Z06 but was definitely having more fun.
As far as robust goes, mine held up well on all four days. No issues except turning my calipers orange. In fact, it held up better then the new z06 that was parked next to me that was done after one session due to overheating.
MC
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I've tracked mine a total of four times. Two track days at Sebring. I think all F types are too heavy to be tracked on a regular basis. The weight plus a twitchy rear end don't make for spectacular lap times. It's probably the slowest 550 HP car on sale today.
That said it doesn't mean it isn't a whole lot of fun on a track. Any car with a G-meter can be fun on the track. I was typically 5 -6 seconds slower per lap than in my Z06 but was definitely having more fun.
As far as robust goes, mine held up well on all four days. No issues except turning my calipers orange. In fact, it held up better then the new z06 that was parked next to me that was done after one session due to overheating.
MC
That said it doesn't mean it isn't a whole lot of fun on a track. Any car with a G-meter can be fun on the track. I was typically 5 -6 seconds slower per lap than in my Z06 but was definitely having more fun.
As far as robust goes, mine held up well on all four days. No issues except turning my calipers orange. In fact, it held up better then the new z06 that was parked next to me that was done after one session due to overheating.
MC
#24
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It needs to drop 400-500 lbs. in order to get into Cayman territory. But, as someone said above, an experienced track driver in a lesser car will always be quicker than inexperienced ones in quicker cars. I went to a 3 day C6 Z06 school at Spring Mt. in Pahrump, NV a few years ago (2006). The instructors were lapping some students driving Z06s in these 1990-ish Camaros:
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Absolutely agree that the F is way too fat. My Cayman weight in empty at slightly under 3100 pounds.
I also agree that the driver is the big deal. I did a track day years ago in an R8 (not mine), in a lead follow format. The instructor was in a stock C-Class sedan. I couldn't keep up. I also did an Arial Atom day class a few years ago. Thought I was doing ok until I rode with the instructor.......20 SECOND better lap times that mine. May as well have been a week difference in times.
I also agree that the driver is the big deal. I did a track day years ago in an R8 (not mine), in a lead follow format. The instructor was in a stock C-Class sedan. I couldn't keep up. I also did an Arial Atom day class a few years ago. Thought I was doing ok until I rode with the instructor.......20 SECOND better lap times that mine. May as well have been a week difference in times.
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As far as robust goes, mine held up well on all four days. No issues except turning my calipers orange. In fact, it held up better then the new z06 that was parked next to me that was done after one session due to overheating.
#27
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F-type, especially V6 should be lighter. There is no questions about it. I hope Jag's upcoming I6 engine would do the trick. It is very valid to point out that F-type is too heavy.
Now, tail-happy is not a valid critique in my mind. If you are only trying to optimize your lap times this might be undesirable... but have you ever power drifted into the corner?! When you do that, people won't notice that there is a train of Bugattis and Ferraris following your car.... they will only be looking at and listening to F-type.
Now, tail-happy is not a valid critique in my mind. If you are only trying to optimize your lap times this might be undesirable... but have you ever power drifted into the corner?! When you do that, people won't notice that there is a train of Bugattis and Ferraris following your car.... they will only be looking at and listening to F-type.
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Now, tail-happy is not a valid critique in my mind. If you are only trying to optimize your lap times this might be undesirable... but have you ever power drifted into the corner?! When you do that, people won't notice that there is a train of Bugattis and Ferraris following your car.... they will only be looking at and listening to F-type.
#29
I have a q that is a tad bit off topic...
What kind of insurance do you folks have for autocross? Does your regular insurance cover it? Or do you get one day coverage? If it is one day coverage, what is it and for Nick does it cost?
I had all state, where my agent told me it was covered for auto x. I recently switched to farmers, where my agent told me it is not covered. I am aware I the coverage may actually be identical, but having an email from my agent saying it was covered made it a worthwhile risk in my view. What do you guys have in place?
What kind of insurance do you folks have for autocross? Does your regular insurance cover it? Or do you get one day coverage? If it is one day coverage, what is it and for Nick does it cost?
I had all state, where my agent told me it was covered for auto x. I recently switched to farmers, where my agent told me it is not covered. I am aware I the coverage may actually be identical, but having an email from my agent saying it was covered made it a worthwhile risk in my view. What do you guys have in place?
#30
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I did a lot of SCCA-sanctioned autocross events in my Lotus and never worried about insurance. Every one I participated in was so well laid out and in venues such there was nothing to hit other than a cone.
I'd worry more about the car club arranged events, which often aren't as disciplined and in venues where loss of control could lead to hard collisions.
I'd worry more about the car club arranged events, which often aren't as disciplined and in venues where loss of control could lead to hard collisions.
#31
I have been lapping my F-TYPE for the second season in a row now; all in all about 9 or 10 track days. After my V8 M3 sedan, it's certainly a different experience.
I've gotten to a point now where I can track it without any driver aids(I avoid doing this on busy days with traffic on track) as I find it to intervene too much, also fun feeling the rear moving about at times.
The body control and the stopping capability on track are probably the most impressive feature. I hardly see any additional horsepower coming in handy (at least where I run) The biggest let down in my opinion are the stock Pirelli's that the car comes equipped with.
I've gotten to a point now where I can track it without any driver aids(I avoid doing this on busy days with traffic on track) as I find it to intervene too much, also fun feeling the rear moving about at times.
The body control and the stopping capability on track are probably the most impressive feature. I hardly see any additional horsepower coming in handy (at least where I run) The biggest let down in my opinion are the stock Pirelli's that the car comes equipped with.
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I have been lapping my F-TYPE for the second season in a row now; all in all about 9 or 10 track days. After my V8 M3 sedan, it's certainly a different experience.
I've gotten to a point now where I can track it without any driver aids(I avoid doing this on busy days with traffic on track) as I find it to intervene too much, also fun feeling the rear moving about at times.
The body control and the stopping capability on track are probably the most impressive feature. I hardly see any additional horsepower coming in handy (at least where I run) The biggest let down in my opinion are the stock Pirelli's that the car comes equipped with.
I've gotten to a point now where I can track it without any driver aids(I avoid doing this on busy days with traffic on track) as I find it to intervene too much, also fun feeling the rear moving about at times.
The body control and the stopping capability on track are probably the most impressive feature. I hardly see any additional horsepower coming in handy (at least where I run) The biggest let down in my opinion are the stock Pirelli's that the car comes equipped with.
MC
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