Oil Change
#41
Castrol is owned by BP (as of 2002). Even though you can buy the right oil meeting STYJLR.51.5122 specs for about US$11/liter on Amazon, I'm guessing the freight to HK would more than double the cost.
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AaronLin (12-15-2016)
#42
That Jaguar-labeled oil is 0-30, not 0-20 - not sure how big a deal that is at all?
E-bay guy is still around - 6 Quarts Castrol Edge Professional E 0W-20 Jaguar Land Rover FST Synthetic Oil | eBay
$11/quart w/ shipping.
I am a total DYI guy when it comes to oil changes, but I've noticed dealer oil changes even showing on CarFax reports now. It seems that would be a big deal to a future buyer. As one of the people above saying every time he goes to the dealer, something is broken - I hear you, I feel your pain.
Right off a Carfax report:
If one were so inclined to do their own changes - is this an appropriate extractor? I assume manual vs electric. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vacuum-Oil-Fluid-Extractor-7L-Manual-Fuel-Petrol-Syphon-Pump-Transfer-Suction-/322354573198?hash=item4b0dd46f8e:g:2WYAAOSw5cNYSpg J&item=322354573198&vxp=mtr
A 7-liter one may not require a secondary pan, bucket, collector?
E-bay guy is still around - 6 Quarts Castrol Edge Professional E 0W-20 Jaguar Land Rover FST Synthetic Oil | eBay
$11/quart w/ shipping.
I am a total DYI guy when it comes to oil changes, but I've noticed dealer oil changes even showing on CarFax reports now. It seems that would be a big deal to a future buyer. As one of the people above saying every time he goes to the dealer, something is broken - I hear you, I feel your pain.
Right off a Carfax report:
If one were so inclined to do their own changes - is this an appropriate extractor? I assume manual vs electric. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vacuum-Oil-Fluid-Extractor-7L-Manual-Fuel-Petrol-Syphon-Pump-Transfer-Suction-/322354573198?hash=item4b0dd46f8e:g:2WYAAOSw5cNYSpg J&item=322354573198&vxp=mtr
A 7-liter one may not require a secondary pan, bucket, collector?
Last edited by Burt Gummer; 12-15-2016 at 09:06 PM. Reason: Added oil extractor line
#43
Same Ebay seller - $10.50/q - Qty 9 quarts - may make more sense - 9 Quarts -Castrol Edge Professional OE 0W-20 Jaguar Land Rover FST Synthetic Oil
#44
That Jaguar-labeled oil is 0-30, not 0-20 - not sure how big a deal that is at all?
E-bay guy is still around - 6 Quarts Castrol Edge Professional E 0W-20 Jaguar Land Rover FST Synthetic Oil | eBay
$11/quart w/ shipping.
I am a total DYI guy when it comes to oil changes, but I've noticed dealer oil changes even showing on CarFax reports now. It seems that would be a big deal to a future buyer. As one of the people above saying every time he goes to the dealer, something is broken - I hear you, I feel your pain.
Right off a Carfax report:
If one were so inclined to do their own changes - is this an appropriate extractor? I assume manual vs electric. Vacuum Oil Fluid Extractor 7L Manual Fuel Petrol Syphon Pump Transfer Suction
A 7-liter one may not require a secondary pan, bucket, collector?
E-bay guy is still around - 6 Quarts Castrol Edge Professional E 0W-20 Jaguar Land Rover FST Synthetic Oil | eBay
$11/quart w/ shipping.
I am a total DYI guy when it comes to oil changes, but I've noticed dealer oil changes even showing on CarFax reports now. It seems that would be a big deal to a future buyer. As one of the people above saying every time he goes to the dealer, something is broken - I hear you, I feel your pain.
Right off a Carfax report:
If one were so inclined to do their own changes - is this an appropriate extractor? I assume manual vs electric. Vacuum Oil Fluid Extractor 7L Manual Fuel Petrol Syphon Pump Transfer Suction
A 7-liter one may not require a secondary pan, bucket, collector?
#45
Chatted with a Castrol rep about getting the secret elixir oil as where I am it is in bulk at the Jag dealer only ( subject to the doesn't ship to Canada usual restrictions ) on oils etc from eBay...solution being to have it shipped to nearby border town.
He mentioned not that great a difference between Edge with tungsten and EdgePro and mentioned not a big deal to put the Edge in for the winter storage phase if not on a regular basis.
So question....how many of "us" use the special elixir only, how many who store the car for the winter change out the oil for new...and if new, special elixir or "other".
Next question....anyone had any reports on the necessity to use the Professional Edge ?
Thanks,
Alan
He mentioned not that great a difference between Edge with tungsten and EdgePro and mentioned not a big deal to put the Edge in for the winter storage phase if not on a regular basis.
So question....how many of "us" use the special elixir only, how many who store the car for the winter change out the oil for new...and if new, special elixir or "other".
Next question....anyone had any reports on the necessity to use the Professional Edge ?
Thanks,
Alan
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It's either a Mann or Mahle, but built in China for 80 cents to $1.50 (if you order several thousand).
Part number 8W93-6A692-AC (I'm looking at a new one right now).
Actual manufacturer is either Donghyun or ZYC under ISO 9001 standards.
Available on Amazon for $11: https://www.amazon.com/Safil-Oil-Fil.../dp/B01JRAUTMW
Part number 8W93-6A692-AC (I'm looking at a new one right now).
Actual manufacturer is either Donghyun or ZYC under ISO 9001 standards.
Available on Amazon for $11: https://www.amazon.com/Safil-Oil-Fil.../dp/B01JRAUTMW
#50
My car was purchased a year after the dealer took it into inventory so I demanded the dealer follow the manual and change the oil (only 175 miles) but a year old.
I finally figured out how to check the oil level - and determined it was overfilled by the Jag dealer. 1,500 miles.
Took it back, to have the remove some. Service Mgr said sorry, the took out a quart and half.
Drove home, let it settle, on flat ground, and checked again. STILL OVERFILLED.
This time I purchased an extractor pump from Harbor Freight for about $20 and did it myself. Pumped out another quart with the small clear tube to get the car at 1 bar down to make sure there was room for expansion with sporty driving. Checked at various times and either shows full bars or 1 bar down which is the way I prefer it.
Lesson learned; before driving away from the dealership, I will let it settle so I can read the level to verify it is topped off correctly.
I finally figured out how to check the oil level - and determined it was overfilled by the Jag dealer. 1,500 miles.
Took it back, to have the remove some. Service Mgr said sorry, the took out a quart and half.
Drove home, let it settle, on flat ground, and checked again. STILL OVERFILLED.
This time I purchased an extractor pump from Harbor Freight for about $20 and did it myself. Pumped out another quart with the small clear tube to get the car at 1 bar down to make sure there was room for expansion with sporty driving. Checked at various times and either shows full bars or 1 bar down which is the way I prefer it.
Lesson learned; before driving away from the dealership, I will let it settle so I can read the level to verify it is topped off correctly.
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#53
No reason why not. Just need to calibrate it against the electronic stick when it's showing the proper level.
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Misujerr (03-02-2017)
#54
[QUOTE=Unhingd;1629673]It's mostly an AWD thing. The oil pan was reconfigured to accommodate the front drive mechanism and the sump capacity was consequently reduced. Many of the dealers are still filling the AWDs with the same amount of oil as they always have for the RWDs.
I did not realize that there was a sump change from non AWD models. Good to know Unhingd - you are a plethora of good info!
I think the primary reason it is overfilled is a combination of not being able to get out all the old oil (as with all oil changes unless allowed hours to drain), and having the time and patience to "partially fill", let it sit, then check the level, and then top off, then let it sit, then check again, then say "OK" - as you would do at home DIY style.
#55
[QUOTE=Unhingd;1629673]It's mostly an AWD thing. The oil pan was reconfigured to accommodate the front drive mechanism and the sump capacity was consequently reduced. Many of the dealers are still filling the AWDs with the same amount of oil as they always have for the RWDs.
No reason why not. Just need to calibrate it against the electronic stick when it's showing the proper level.[/QUOTE
Sorry in advance for possibly an ignorant question, so with AWD, does the car take slightly less total oil volume to fill to full?, and if so, perhaps the electronic dip sticks are not properly re-calibrated, thus showing 1/4 (or slightly more) low?
CRS
No reason why not. Just need to calibrate it against the electronic stick when it's showing the proper level.[/QUOTE
Sorry in advance for possibly an ignorant question, so with AWD, does the car take slightly less total oil volume to fill to full?, and if so, perhaps the electronic dip sticks are not properly re-calibrated, thus showing 1/4 (or slightly more) low?
CRS
#56
No, I think it is simply that the techs are not using the correct documentation, order up the wrong amount of oil, and pour it in.
Having used vacuum extraction on two boats and two cars, I know you get almost all of the oil out. It does not take any longer to suck until all you get is air.
There is no need to wait and check if you pour the right amount of oil in to begin with.
My one experience, and I was overfilled, was that the tech got 8 qts of oil. I do not know how much of that he poured in, but he should have picked up 7 qts and poured in 6.5. It isn't rocket science, especially if it is coming out of qt or liter bottles.
Larry
Having used vacuum extraction on two boats and two cars, I know you get almost all of the oil out. It does not take any longer to suck until all you get is air.
There is no need to wait and check if you pour the right amount of oil in to begin with.
My one experience, and I was overfilled, was that the tech got 8 qts of oil. I do not know how much of that he poured in, but he should have picked up 7 qts and poured in 6.5. It isn't rocket science, especially if it is coming out of qt or liter bottles.
Larry
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If one were so inclined to do their own changes - is this an appropriate extractor? I assume manual vs electric. Vacuum Oil Fluid Extractor 7L Manual Fuel Petrol Syphon Pump Transfer Suction | eBay
A 7-liter one may not require a secondary pan, bucket, collector?
#60
I found this online Jaguar Owners Info... 2016 F-Type - Mine is AWD.
It says AWD is 13.7 pints (6.85 Quarts) vs 15.3 pints (7.65 Quarts) for the RWD vehicle. Interesting.
At my next dealer oil change, as it is included at no charge for 2016, I will instruct them to add ONLY 6 QUARTS, and I will carry home a quart. I will let it settle overnight, check the electronic oil level gauge, and top off myself.
CAPACITIES: Jaguar Owner Information
Item Variant Capacity pints (liters)
Engine oil refill and filter change
All Wheel Drive (AWD) vehicles 13.7 (6.5)
Rear Wheel Drive (RWD) vehicles 15.3 (7.25)
It says AWD is 13.7 pints (6.85 Quarts) vs 15.3 pints (7.65 Quarts) for the RWD vehicle. Interesting.
At my next dealer oil change, as it is included at no charge for 2016, I will instruct them to add ONLY 6 QUARTS, and I will carry home a quart. I will let it settle overnight, check the electronic oil level gauge, and top off myself.
CAPACITIES: Jaguar Owner Information
Item Variant Capacity pints (liters)
Engine oil refill and filter change
All Wheel Drive (AWD) vehicles 13.7 (6.5)
Rear Wheel Drive (RWD) vehicles 15.3 (7.25)
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