Building an Endurance Racer
#121
At this point I am really hoping it's the PATS system as it's a $100 fix. We searched for hours looking for a short as that's what we expected but couldn't find anything. If it's that then hopefully the guy can narrow it down to what system quickly. We searched every wire. It's a little easier when there is no interior.
love the GT. The new one is amazing too. That looks like one built in the 00s, not the 60s. Lots of guys had them painted that way due to the heritage. You know the new one won 2016 Le Mans as well. Truly a fantastic car. Sadly the won't ever depreciate like a Ferrari so I won't ever have one.
love the GT. The new one is amazing too. That looks like one built in the 00s, not the 60s. Lots of guys had them painted that way due to the heritage. You know the new one won 2016 Le Mans as well. Truly a fantastic car. Sadly the won't ever depreciate like a Ferrari so I won't ever have one.
#122
love the GT. The new one is amazing too. That looks like one built in the 00s, not the 60s. Lots of guys had them painted that way due to the heritage. You know the new one won 2016 Le Mans as well. Truly a fantastic car. Sadly the won't ever depreciate like a Ferrari so I won't ever have one.
#123
Great news for this update. The X-Type is back up and running!!! So after trying to take it to a dealer only to have them refuse to even look at it we found a local independent specialist. It turns out that the cluster was bad. This was one of our original suspicions and the tests at the OBDII did confirm it, but it required taking it to a shop for programing. We also still suspected that it could be that, PATS, or possibly a short that we missed.
Now that the car is back running and ready to go we can change the transmission fluid, install a fat boy seat (we have a couple big guys on our team), finish the new paint job and it'll be ready to race! Oh, and do a better job of securing and padding the cluster to prevent a repeat.
Thanks again for everyone's help!!!
Now that the car is back running and ready to go we can change the transmission fluid, install a fat boy seat (we have a couple big guys on our team), finish the new paint job and it'll be ready to race! Oh, and do a better job of securing and padding the cluster to prevent a repeat.
Thanks again for everyone's help!!!
#125
Thank you! This is actually our 5th year racing in Lemons, but only our 2nd with the X-Type. We like to build and work on cars so we change often. We are actually up to 3 racers and a team of 15 drivers plus a couple crew guys that help out.
Races are always a blast. We never attempt to win, just get everyone in the car as much as possible and keep them running. Running can sometimes be the challenge but we always figure it out somehow.
Races are always a blast. We never attempt to win, just get everyone in the car as much as possible and keep them running. Running can sometimes be the challenge but we always figure it out somehow.
#126
Congrats on figuring that out.
I've currently got my exhaust manifold out and my rear cat bouncing around in there loose.
I am not sure how people squeeze them out the top, but they say it can be done, so I haven't given up...
Someone said to take it out with the exhaust manifold together, but I couldn't figure that one out...
Frustrating.
I've currently got my exhaust manifold out and my rear cat bouncing around in there loose.
I am not sure how people squeeze them out the top, but they say it can be done, so I haven't given up...
Someone said to take it out with the exhaust manifold together, but I couldn't figure that one out...
Frustrating.
#127
Congrats on figuring that out.
I've currently got my exhaust manifold out and my rear cat bouncing around in there loose.
I am not sure how people squeeze them out the top, but they say it can be done, so I haven't given up...
Someone said to take it out with the exhaust manifold together, but I couldn't figure that one out...
Frustrating.
I've currently got my exhaust manifold out and my rear cat bouncing around in there loose.
I am not sure how people squeeze them out the top, but they say it can be done, so I haven't given up...
Someone said to take it out with the exhaust manifold together, but I couldn't figure that one out...
Frustrating.
#128
Quick update. The car has a new look to match our other two cars. Less of a Jag look, but it's easier to see on track and helps the other drivers know who we are. Also calhanged the transmission fluid and the car is now race ready.
This picture is to show how the negative camber was brought in. Looks good now.
New to us seat too!
This picture is to show how the negative camber was brought in. Looks good now.
New to us seat too!
#129
Awesome thread! I've been off for a while as I sold both my Jaguars but hoping to take delivery of another X-Type this weekend.
How did your brakes handle the track? I've only had my X on two tracks and I felt the brakes were wholly inadequate for the task...
As to the cornering ability I was running 17x8.5"wheels with 245/40's all around (street tires) and custom sway bars - I thought it made a HUGE difference in keeping a flatter contact patch. That company said they dropped the project but I'm contemplating talking them into another run for the front bars and doing a circle track bar for the rear.
But yeah, those brakes man.
How did your brakes handle the track? I've only had my X on two tracks and I felt the brakes were wholly inadequate for the task...
As to the cornering ability I was running 17x8.5"wheels with 245/40's all around (street tires) and custom sway bars - I thought it made a HUGE difference in keeping a flatter contact patch. That company said they dropped the project but I'm contemplating talking them into another run for the front bars and doing a circle track bar for the rear.
But yeah, those brakes man.
#130
Yes, we upgraded our pads to racing specific ones and the brake fluid to a Dot 5 equivalent. Same rotors and calipers though. I haven't seen too much evidence that upgrading to equal sized ones would help much, but I would like to do the ST brake upgrade. I have to get 17s as I'm still on factory rims. Braking was much less of an issue for us than corning that just didn't inspire confidence. We still ran decent lap times though, especially for our class.
We run 200TW tires, and that helps handling a lot, but I still need to replace all the suspension bushings.
We run 200TW tires, and that helps handling a lot, but I still need to replace all the suspension bushings.
#131
Yes, we upgraded our pads to racing specific ones and the brake fluid to a Dot 5 equivalent. Same rotors and calipers though. I haven't seen too much evidence that upgrading to equal sized ones would help much, but I would like to do the ST brake upgrade. I have to get 17s as I'm still on factory rims. Braking was much less of an issue for us than corning that just didn't inspire confidence. We still ran decent lap times though, especially for our class.
We run 200TW tires, and that helps handling a lot, but I still need to replace all the suspension bushings.
We run 200TW tires, and that helps handling a lot, but I still need to replace all the suspension bushings.
Definitely keep us updated if you do a brake upgrade. I have a small spread sheet of notes that I've been taking for suitable donors, maybe we can share notes?
#132
That's good to know that you are also considering a brake upgrade. However in all fairness you probably are carrying more speed in the corners than I am.
Definitely keep us updated if you do a brake upgrade. I have a small spread sheet of notes that I've been taking for suitable donors, maybe we can share notes?
Definitely keep us updated if you do a brake upgrade. I have a small spread sheet of notes that I've been taking for suitable donors, maybe we can share notes?
#134
#137
It has nothing to do with weight savings really. The series requires cars to be less than $500 including any modifications and purchase price (safety stuff is exempt). We sold the rear bumper for $100, grill for $120, and front bumper for $50 giving us $270 against the budget cap. This along with other things we sold allowed us to buy springs in all 4 corners, new front shocks, transmission cooler, rear control arms, etc without cheating the rules.
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#139
I don't have pictures downloaded to my computer yet so I'll add them later, but here is the race recap. The car passed tech and was placed in class C again. Currently, it is the only X-Type that I know of that races in North America as the west coast one was involved in a bad accident.
Saturday involved monsoon type rain and the track does not drain well in spots. There was one part of the track that the car would become completely engulfed in water. We had a lot of our rookie drivers in the Jag that day and they drove it terrible, all due to driver error. Those that got in it with experience loved it, except for the fogging windshield due to the heavy rain. One of the rookies spun it twice on the same lap while another spun it and then hit the pit road wall when he came in. They made us park the car for 3 hours because of those 4 incidents. Then my wife got in for her first race ever. Unfortunately for her another car had oiled down one of the corners after about 30 minutes of her stint and when she hit it the car spun again ending the day for the car.
Sunday was much nicer out and the track had mostly dried out. The first driver out complained a lack of control on the front drivers side corner. We checked it out and couldn't find anything so just sent out the next guy. A few hours later the car came in with two sheered off lugs. We didn't have spares and time was running short in the day so we took one from the other side and just ran with 4 on two wheels. While they were swapping those out it was discovered that the drivers side ball joint was bad and likely the cause of the handling issues the first driver was complaining about. The car still ran okay though and finished the race.
We did not place as well as I had hoped due to being parked for 3 hours on Saturday and time being off track replacing the lug bolts Sunday, but the car still ran well all weekend. It had no major mechanical issues and should be fairly easy to replace the problems that occurred. The claimed issues with the transfer box and transmission are yet to surface themselves with our car. Keeping fresh and high quality oils in there seems to do the trick.
Our next race is going to be at Thompson Motor Speedway in Connecticut August 12-13. We'll take two cars to that race and the Jag is likely to be one of them.
Saturday involved monsoon type rain and the track does not drain well in spots. There was one part of the track that the car would become completely engulfed in water. We had a lot of our rookie drivers in the Jag that day and they drove it terrible, all due to driver error. Those that got in it with experience loved it, except for the fogging windshield due to the heavy rain. One of the rookies spun it twice on the same lap while another spun it and then hit the pit road wall when he came in. They made us park the car for 3 hours because of those 4 incidents. Then my wife got in for her first race ever. Unfortunately for her another car had oiled down one of the corners after about 30 minutes of her stint and when she hit it the car spun again ending the day for the car.
Sunday was much nicer out and the track had mostly dried out. The first driver out complained a lack of control on the front drivers side corner. We checked it out and couldn't find anything so just sent out the next guy. A few hours later the car came in with two sheered off lugs. We didn't have spares and time was running short in the day so we took one from the other side and just ran with 4 on two wheels. While they were swapping those out it was discovered that the drivers side ball joint was bad and likely the cause of the handling issues the first driver was complaining about. The car still ran okay though and finished the race.
We did not place as well as I had hoped due to being parked for 3 hours on Saturday and time being off track replacing the lug bolts Sunday, but the car still ran well all weekend. It had no major mechanical issues and should be fairly easy to replace the problems that occurred. The claimed issues with the transfer box and transmission are yet to surface themselves with our car. Keeping fresh and high quality oils in there seems to do the trick.
Our next race is going to be at Thompson Motor Speedway in Connecticut August 12-13. We'll take two cars to that race and the Jag is likely to be one of them.
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