Cherry Blossom - Restoration 1990 XJS V12
#1301
Hi Jonathan
I just got 'gifted' a Brand New Fan Clutch and a possible New ex demonstrator Fan but as the Blades are an inch too long.
If I want it I will have to cut them down, on the assumption that it will fit on the Fan Clutch.
And so I'm going over to check it out tomorrow and also pick up some UNF Nuts with which to bolt it on.
It sounds like it will take a bit of modding but at least it should get me through the rest of the Summer.
Although its obviously Raining....As In 'Still Raining' at the moment.
That Taurus Fan looks 'Ace' but maybe hard to find in the (UK)
I just got 'gifted' a Brand New Fan Clutch and a possible New ex demonstrator Fan but as the Blades are an inch too long.
If I want it I will have to cut them down, on the assumption that it will fit on the Fan Clutch.
And so I'm going over to check it out tomorrow and also pick up some UNF Nuts with which to bolt it on.
It sounds like it will take a bit of modding but at least it should get me through the rest of the Summer.
Although its obviously Raining....As In 'Still Raining' at the moment.
That Taurus Fan looks 'Ace' but maybe hard to find in the (UK)
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orangeblossom (08-09-2017)
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#1304
The Story So Far
The Story So Far
Fantastic!
Fantastic!
As you may know the Fan Clutch on 'Cherry Blossom' Seized up but then on Closer Inspection.
My Brand New Fan had developed a Stress Crack by being spun at Full Speed when the Clutch packed up.
And though it didn't look that bad, that sort of thing is always a bit of a worry.
Those white Fans are now NLA and those Clutches are expensive in the UK.
But thankfully some friends we know were happy to help us out and managed to find us a Brand New Clutch and a Fan.
This fan was for a Facelift as since these Blades were longer then they would need cutting down to 17 inches.
Not a complicated job, as all you need is a Jig Saw and a Carpenters marking gauge.
Cutting a Fan down to size
I've got the Fan, got the Clutch but I need to get some new bolts.
And today it was raining much too hard to really want to go out, so better best that's left until Tomorrow.
While I catch up with other Jobs Today.
Where having stepped back it gave me time to think, as I was so impressed with Jig Jags set up.
That I was very tempted to try it for myself.
After all 'its only money' at least that's what I try to keep telling myself.
So I had a look around and found this Electric Fan, which hopefully should run quieter as its 16 inch.
16 inch 120 Watts 2150 CFM
What do you think about it guys, I'm sure I could get it to fit in the Shroud with a bit of modding.
And I've always got my New Fan and Clutch in case it doesn't work out.
16" CURVED BLADE ENGINE RADIATOR INTERCOOLER COOLING ELECTRIC 12V 120W FAN KIT | eBay
My Brand New Fan had developed a Stress Crack by being spun at Full Speed when the Clutch packed up.
And though it didn't look that bad, that sort of thing is always a bit of a worry.
Those white Fans are now NLA and those Clutches are expensive in the UK.
But thankfully some friends we know were happy to help us out and managed to find us a Brand New Clutch and a Fan.
This fan was for a Facelift as since these Blades were longer then they would need cutting down to 17 inches.
Not a complicated job, as all you need is a Jig Saw and a Carpenters marking gauge.
Cutting a Fan down to size
I've got the Fan, got the Clutch but I need to get some new bolts.
And today it was raining much too hard to really want to go out, so better best that's left until Tomorrow.
While I catch up with other Jobs Today.
Where having stepped back it gave me time to think, as I was so impressed with Jig Jags set up.
That I was very tempted to try it for myself.
After all 'its only money' at least that's what I try to keep telling myself.
So I had a look around and found this Electric Fan, which hopefully should run quieter as its 16 inch.
16 inch 120 Watts 2150 CFM
What do you think about it guys, I'm sure I could get it to fit in the Shroud with a bit of modding.
And I've always got my New Fan and Clutch in case it doesn't work out.
16" CURVED BLADE ENGINE RADIATOR INTERCOOLER COOLING ELECTRIC 12V 120W FAN KIT | eBay
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orangeblossom (08-09-2017)
#1306
You are not the only one who has just told me that and so I think I'm sticking to plan 'A'
#1307
Brilliant fans and as close to a drop in fit as is possible.
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orangeblossom (08-09-2017)
#1308
Update: Going to Stick to Plan 'A' The Mechanical Fan.
Getting Back In The Game
When something goes wrong with an XJS the only thing that you can do
to avoid being overwhelmed by a cloud of depression.
Is to get the Spanners out and Fix it.
And although I have been tempted to put electric fans in for the second time (as I found them too noisy)
I was lucky enough to be gifted a New Fan Clutch and Fan.
But as the Blades were a bit too long, I had to cut them down to 17 inches.
That bit was fairly straight forward but the biggest problem that I had or should that be the smallest.
Was a lack of UNF Nuts and Bolts as they are unobtainable anywhere near me.
So I had to go on a 15 mile drive to a Specialist Supplier for just Four 5/16 UNF Nuts!
Hardly worth the Petrol but what can you do, as I couldn't hang around to wait for Mail Order.
So while I was there I bought a stock of all sizes, including some Special Heico Locking Washers for the Fan.
Which should hopefully mean that I can start to put it all back together.
Stocking up on UNF Nuts and Bolts
to avoid being overwhelmed by a cloud of depression.
Is to get the Spanners out and Fix it.
And although I have been tempted to put electric fans in for the second time (as I found them too noisy)
I was lucky enough to be gifted a New Fan Clutch and Fan.
But as the Blades were a bit too long, I had to cut them down to 17 inches.
That bit was fairly straight forward but the biggest problem that I had or should that be the smallest.
Was a lack of UNF Nuts and Bolts as they are unobtainable anywhere near me.
So I had to go on a 15 mile drive to a Specialist Supplier for just Four 5/16 UNF Nuts!
Hardly worth the Petrol but what can you do, as I couldn't hang around to wait for Mail Order.
So while I was there I bought a stock of all sizes, including some Special Heico Locking Washers for the Fan.
Which should hopefully mean that I can start to put it all back together.
Stocking up on UNF Nuts and Bolts
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orangeblossom (08-10-2017)
#1310
Hi Warrjon
According to the Supplier, these Heico Locking Washers can be reused
But I also bought a selection of some of the other types.
Spring Washers and Star Washers etc
These Heico Washers are like double Washers and are Anti Vibration and used on Road Drills.
http://heico-lock.co.uk/Images/washer-dynamics.mp4
According to the Supplier, these Heico Locking Washers can be reused
But I also bought a selection of some of the other types.
Spring Washers and Star Washers etc
These Heico Washers are like double Washers and are Anti Vibration and used on Road Drills.
http://heico-lock.co.uk/Images/washer-dynamics.mp4
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Jonathan-W (08-11-2017)
#1311
Nearly there!
Nearly There!
Changing the Fan Clutch looks deceptively easy but it not without its problems.
Having undone those 4 little nuts and pulled the Fan and Fan Clutch off the Boss.
Even with the Shroud undone and pulled back out of the way, I still couldn't get the Fan out.
So I had to take off the Top Closing panel as well.
New Fan and Fan Clutch assembled and already to go in.
This time using all New Bolts and Heico Shock Proof Washers.
After eventually managing to get the old Fan and Fan Clutch out.
The Shroud was now already to go back in, together with the New Fan and Fan Clutch.
New Fan and Fan Clutch Back in
Putting those 4 little Nuts on the Fan Clutch was a bit of a Nightmare.
For as soon as you get one on, another one falls off.
But worst of all I was surrounded by a swarm of gnats, which made this job more difficult than it normally would have been.
So now its just a question of tidying up the wires and putting on a few new Jubilee Clips.
Then hopefully She will be fixed and already to go. (Again!)
Having undone those 4 little nuts and pulled the Fan and Fan Clutch off the Boss.
Even with the Shroud undone and pulled back out of the way, I still couldn't get the Fan out.
So I had to take off the Top Closing panel as well.
New Fan and Fan Clutch assembled and already to go in.
This time using all New Bolts and Heico Shock Proof Washers.
After eventually managing to get the old Fan and Fan Clutch out.
The Shroud was now already to go back in, together with the New Fan and Fan Clutch.
New Fan and Fan Clutch Back in
Putting those 4 little Nuts on the Fan Clutch was a bit of a Nightmare.
For as soon as you get one on, another one falls off.
But worst of all I was surrounded by a swarm of gnats, which made this job more difficult than it normally would have been.
So now its just a question of tidying up the wires and putting on a few new Jubilee Clips.
Then hopefully She will be fixed and already to go. (Again!)
#1312
Finally got it all done.
Nearly Done And Dusted
Having Installed the New Fan and Clutch and connected up the Hoses.
There was just one more job that was left to do
And that was replace the Copper Washers in the Cross Pipe Banjo Bolt.
This is a delicate little job, where you don't want to drop the Washers down the side of the Rad.
Not to mention that I had to pay nearly £2 each for these, from the only place I could get them.
There are 3 Copper Washers in this Banjo Bolt Stack.
Having got them fairly tight, I waited to see if the Water would leak when I Started the Engine
I'm pleased to say She Started on the Button and with no water leaking past the Banjo Bolt.
I gave it a final 'Tweak' and left it at that.
Be especially Careful if you do this on an Alloy Rad or you could strip the Thread.
Tomorrow all I've got to do is Check the Coolant Level.
Put the Bonnet/Hood Struts on and then hopefully go for a Test Drive.
All done and dusted and looking forward to a Test Drive
There was just one more job that was left to do
And that was replace the Copper Washers in the Cross Pipe Banjo Bolt.
This is a delicate little job, where you don't want to drop the Washers down the side of the Rad.
Not to mention that I had to pay nearly £2 each for these, from the only place I could get them.
There are 3 Copper Washers in this Banjo Bolt Stack.
Having got them fairly tight, I waited to see if the Water would leak when I Started the Engine
I'm pleased to say She Started on the Button and with no water leaking past the Banjo Bolt.
I gave it a final 'Tweak' and left it at that.
Be especially Careful if you do this on an Alloy Rad or you could strip the Thread.
Tomorrow all I've got to do is Check the Coolant Level.
Put the Bonnet/Hood Struts on and then hopefully go for a Test Drive.
All done and dusted and looking forward to a Test Drive
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Doug (08-12-2017)
#1313
Nearly Done And Dusted
Having Installed the New Fan and Clutch and connected up the Hoses.
There was just one more job that was left to do
And that was replace the Copper Washers in the Cross Pipe Banjo Bolt.
This is a delicate little job, where you don't want to drop the Washers down the side of the Rad.
Not to mention that I had to pay nearly £2 each for these, from the only place I could get them.
There are 3 Copper Washers in this Banjo Bolt Stack.
Having got them fairly tight, I waited to see if the Water would leak when I Started the Engine
I'm pleased to say She Started on the Button and with no water leaking past the Banjo Bolt.
I gave it a final 'Tweak' and left it at that.
Be especially Careful if you do this on an Alloy Rad or you could strip the Thread.
Tomorrow all I've got to do is Check the Coolant Level.
Put the Bonnet/Hood Struts on and then hopefully go for a Test Drive.
All done and dusted and looking forward to a Test Drive
There was just one more job that was left to do
And that was replace the Copper Washers in the Cross Pipe Banjo Bolt.
This is a delicate little job, where you don't want to drop the Washers down the side of the Rad.
Not to mention that I had to pay nearly £2 each for these, from the only place I could get them.
There are 3 Copper Washers in this Banjo Bolt Stack.
Having got them fairly tight, I waited to see if the Water would leak when I Started the Engine
I'm pleased to say She Started on the Button and with no water leaking past the Banjo Bolt.
I gave it a final 'Tweak' and left it at that.
Be especially Careful if you do this on an Alloy Rad or you could strip the Thread.
Tomorrow all I've got to do is Check the Coolant Level.
Put the Bonnet/Hood Struts on and then hopefully go for a Test Drive.
All done and dusted and looking forward to a Test Drive
some real rip off merchants around (£2 each !)
They're 21 pence each (+ vat) from Jaguar
£5 gets you a pack of twenty.
Bit late now but I would have posted you what I had left (about ten) as payment for all your inspiring posts on the forum.
Always worth checking
https://www.jaguarclassicparts.com/uk
genuine parts , sometimes quite affordable.
Also parts that are no longer available can become available again, couple of years ago ABS pressure accumulators weren't available except for new old stock (sitting on a shelf for decades probably), was lots of internet forum talk of what part might be equivalent from GM and of UK engineers who would refurbish, now available new from Jaguar £130 plus VAT if memory serves me.
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#1314
Hi Paul
Putting on New Copper Washers was a bit of a last minute afterthought on my part but felt I ought to do it just to be 'Belt and Braces'
as I had a massive leak from there last time.
You can't even buy UNF Nuts round my way, so that meant a 15 Mile each way trip to get some.
But as for the Copper washers, I had to go to a near by accessory shop, who you get the feeling seem to think that all you need is to hang Fluffy Dice from the Mirror.
In order to make it go faster, so I really couldn't believe they sold those Washers (at any price) Lol
Thanks for your very kind offer, that was so good of you.
Good news about the ***** they sound a Bargain!
Putting on New Copper Washers was a bit of a last minute afterthought on my part but felt I ought to do it just to be 'Belt and Braces'
as I had a massive leak from there last time.
You can't even buy UNF Nuts round my way, so that meant a 15 Mile each way trip to get some.
But as for the Copper washers, I had to go to a near by accessory shop, who you get the feeling seem to think that all you need is to hang Fluffy Dice from the Mirror.
In order to make it go faster, so I really couldn't believe they sold those Washers (at any price) Lol
Thanks for your very kind offer, that was so good of you.
Good news about the ***** they sound a Bargain!
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orangeblossom (08-13-2017)
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I hate to give you something else to worry about and I might be mis-remembering....but.....
Are your new washers the same thickness as the originals? If not, I recall issues with too-thick washers creating a situation where the hole in the shank of the bolt doesn't properly line up with the banjo fitting itself, effective blocking the passageway.
Let's hear what others have to say but, IMO, it merits checking.
Cheers
DD
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#1318
ob, you did everything (removing the fan and the clutch and then putting them back) with bonnet on, correct? When I did mine the first (and the only) time, I had the bonnet off. I remember it was tight even having room and access up front.
Next time, if there is a need, I would probably try not to take bonnet off if I don't have to. Was just wandering how much more difficult the task is with the hood on
Next time, if there is a need, I would probably try not to take bonnet off if I don't have to. Was just wandering how much more difficult the task is with the hood on
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orangeblossom (08-13-2017)
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I hate to give you something else to worry about and I might be mis-remembering....but.....
Are your new washers the same thickness as the originals? If not, I recall issues with too-thick washers creating a situation where the hole in the shank of the bolt doesn't properly line up with the banjo fitting itself, effective blocking the passageway.
Let's hear what others have to say but, IMO, it merits checking.
Cheers
DD
Are your new washers the same thickness as the originals? If not, I recall issues with too-thick washers creating a situation where the hole in the shank of the bolt doesn't properly line up with the banjo fitting itself, effective blocking the passageway.
Let's hear what others have to say but, IMO, it merits checking.
Cheers
DD
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orangeblossom (08-13-2017)
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