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I should start this by saying I hope I didn't buy the wrong part, but I don't think I did. My car will let me know by either pissing on my feet or not.
Instead of asking Gary a question as usual, I figured I'd just let you all know what you probably already know. So my (92 XJS V12 Coupe) windshield seal is leaking as are most XJS's. I searched around and almost was stupid enough to buy one for a 91. I went to Terry's Jag Catalog and found the correct part number BEC-9535. I found it on Jagbits for 99.95 plus shipping and then stumbled on to this place in Reno, Nevada www.jaguarlandroverrenoparts.com/about-us. I found it for $17.43 plus shipping. Full order info below.
I can't be the only one digging around for this, so I thought I'd post. Part Number Part Name Price Quantity Total
BEC9535
Channel Seal
$17.43
1
$17.43
Subtotal:
$17.43
Shipping (Priority Shipping):
$12.10
Total:
$29.53
Isn’t the 92 the first year the coupe had a modern style bonded windshield? If that is the case, the part you picked out doesn’t actually seal anything. Another word for it is a mastik dam. It’s just there to look pretty so you can’t see the thick black glue that actually holds everything in. This is a part that glass shops will always reuse. This method of glass sealing is COMPLETELY different than earlier Jaguar XJS coupes, but identical to every normal modern car in production today. I think the convertibles always had bonded glass, and the coupe started in 92. My 92 has bonded glass, but the 83 has the 1950’s style rubber seal.
Funny you live in Mass and have a 92. Jaguar only made 553 V12 coupes in 92. I bought mine from a guy on the cape, there was another in Lowell I didn’t buy because it reeked of cigarettes, and now you have one. That has to be all of them
Is that 553 figure for V12 coupés the worldwide total production? If so, mine's in somewhat rare company....
And David Manners has the part for twelve quid. Jagbits seems expensive....
This link is the rubber seal. It is #3 - i hope (although another site says it is number 2 - i hope it is 3 and the trim is 2, which is what i think you are talking about) on the illustration and I think it is the seal that works. Everything seems to say it does, but what do I know? I'm bringing it to a glass guy tomorrow to see what his take is. The car, not the seal. I don't even know if what I bought will come based on what Jagbits said.
Yeah, I read that about the number made in 92. Glad to have one of them. My car actually is fron NJ. I just bought it in Albany, buried behind a Porche 928, an MGB and 2 snowmobiles. There isn't a speck of rust on it and it has 74k miles, so I'm hoping I got a fairly decent specimen. My uncle used to do body work and said he got a jag in one time from the cape that had barely been driven and was all rotted out from the sea air. Did you have any issues like that?
Thanks for the link Someday. 14 quid is 20 bucks so it sounds like the price is right on. The Jagbits one is a whole kit i think, so that may justify the price.. maybe, maybe not. My guess is i will end up buying something from every site that sells parts at some point, so there's that.
Maybe all 553 of us should join/start Forum 553 in here! haha
It shows #2 as the seal, and has a little exploded view showing seal shape with channel. It’s also $17
I usually buy from SNG Barratt because they’re in Manchester NH and I often get the parts in Jaffrey NH overnight. They used to be open Saturday mornings and I’d pick stuff up but they haven’t done that in a while.
As for production... 553 92 V12 coupes worldwide according to back of “XJ-S” by Brian Long. Production of facelift V12 coupes: 92: 553; 93: 507; 94: 242; 95: 239; 96: 19.
I don’t think the guy on the cape with my XJS had it long. One dime sized rust spot on the rear quarter to sill seam. The rest of the car is fine.
I had my 93 XJS coupe frame-on restored. During the work, both the rear and front glass were removed. The body shop ordered the seals from the Jaguar dealer. What was received were not the correct items. The body shop took the Jaguar dealer due to the mystery of finding the correct seals. In 1993, the correct seals have a slot/grove in the seal where the chrome strips are placed. This was only done in 1993 - 1993.5. The front window glass seal is offered by Welsh Jaguar Parts. (740)-282-8649. They are in Ohio. Very reasonably priced. I purchased front seal from them. As for the rear glass, I ran into a wall - after 45 days searching, I contacted a great source in England for Jaguars XJS parts. (JustXJS.co.uk) Told him (Andy Harvey) my problem. He replied that he had the glass, seal, chrome assembly. I bought the entire assembly (parts car was a 93 coupe). Each glass seal is bonded to the glass. Both sources are very reasonable. Both can be contacted by email. Start Welsh - first. Use Andy - as a last resort. Both are great Jaguar parts purveyor's.
However, if the "seal is leaking" then you really have a more fundamental problem. With these bonded screens, if you've got a leak into the car then you've either got a gap through the inevitable hardened mastic, or more likely, you've got corrosion in the windscreen flange. If untreated, that corrosion will then work its way through to the bulkhead, plenum chamber and inner wing. You really need to (carefully) remove the windscreen chromes and check the state of the windscreen flange. Don't just replace that external H-seal. Unfortunately, it just won't cure your problem.
Thanks guys. I brought it to my "glass guy" today. He sounds like he knows his stuff, but what do i know. Once the seal comes in - The Jaguar Rover place in Nevada said they may have located the ONE that exists in the states, so he said he may have it to me as early as Monday. We'll see. I spoke to Barry their parts guy. Super nice guy.
Jagsandmags - our cars are IDENTICAL.. exterior - do you have black interior or is that just the pic?
I love it. I was second guessing myself buying mine for a second. Not anymore. Thanks. I'll post some of mine when i have better pics than it sitting on a trailer.
I've recently had dealings with GPC Car parts (also listed as jagbreakers on facebook) of Stoney Stanton, Liecestershire. My advice is avoid this shark at all costs!
I needed the oil cooler pipes for my 2.5 V6 S Type. After sending them diagrams of the correct parts, they told me via facebook messenger they had them in but wanted me to call them. So I called them and agreed a price and paid by debit card over the phone. The pipes were received a week later.
However they were entirely the wrong pipes, not from an S Type. I called them and they told me that they had another car coming in the following week and would send me alternatives. As I had made other enquiries and sources them, I asked for a refund and returned the pipes the same day by courier. The problem was getting the refund. I have had to resort to trading standards and even calling HMRC (VAT) and finally got a refund 2 months later. They have used all kinds of excuses from "we don't do our accounts until the end of the month" and family bereavement and then a holiday to Mexico to delay the refund. I have contacted a couple of other buyers to see if they have had problems. 2 of them have not received the items and have not received refunds. Yesterday I called them before I called trading standards and they even threatened me with a "bare knuckle fight".
My advice: steer well clear of GPC CAR PARTS also trading as JAG BREAKERS on facebook. How many others have been ripped off by these unscrupulous traders?
Just an update on the Channel Seal I bought from Jaguar Land Rover in Nevada. Barry in Parts is amazing. He found it. I'm including pictures assuming there will be a debate on whether this is actually the correct windscreen seal to stop the notorious XJS leak... for the 92 anyway..
That is the correct seal and it' in genuine Jaguar packaging. However, it isn't going and is not designed, o stop water ingress from around the screen into the car. As I mentioned, if you'e got a water leak into the car from the screen it's because you'e got corrosion in the windscreen flange. Get the chromes off and check it out.
Thanks Paul. Chromes coming off soon and we'll check the flange. There is not a spot of rust on this car, so I'm curious to see what is hiding under there.
Ollie- when you have your glass back in, you should bring it up to Jaffrey NH and put it on my lift. Maybe I can put my ECU in your car and find out if it’s any good . -John