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Old 04-23-2018 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Stohlen
Bingo. I've been running into this problem a lot on my drag runs. Once the engine gets heat soaked, it dumps fuel at high RPM to protect the cats. Unfortunately this is a calculated value and not a measured one, so its hard to get away from.
Ah I see.

We could really do with some way of reducing charge temps via the AC, could maybe work or just get to the drag strip first thing at front of queue an hour before it opens, let car cool, then just run it and in theory you will get a run without spark retard or cat protection.

Is 11.39 your PB?

I ran an 11.3080@125.49mph this weekend in quite hot weather but the car had an hour to cool before doing the first run so car felt strong.

Second run was an 11.33@126mph and then as track temperatures when 30c and above with the car hot, it was back in the 11.4's.

Out of curiosity have you tried wet/snow mode for your drag runs? I am finding this mode consistently the fastest and as you have an AWD model you may wish to try it.

Also as your AWD more tyre pressure within reason is preferable, not less, certainly do not lower your pressures.

At Vmax I was running 45psi rear, 50psi front in the damp, using wet mode and the car hooked up brilliant every time, I ran such high pressures at Vmax as it was 1 mile racing so I was hitting 190mph and the manual advice to run higher pressures for over 175mph.

Its good to see you made a gain with your tune, what I would ask, this gain your tune/pulley gave, how does the car feel for comparison say when you floor it in 4th from a roll with the tune compared to stock?

I am temped to tune my SVR but am a little concerned I may not gain much if anything as it seems to be running quite strong as it is.
 
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Old 04-23-2018 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Gibbo205
I am temped to tune my SVR but am a little concerned I may not gain much if anything as it seems to be running quite strong as it is.
Keep in mind the cat temp is a calculated value, so even if you did something to cool it down, th vehicle would still dump fuel. Waiting for the coolant/oil temps to drop is the most effective tool outside of major tuning.

Yes, 11.39 is my current personal best. I’ve been struggling with the fuel dump issue and AWD wheel spin with the tune and pulley. New tires are a top priority this spring before I go again. I have not been launching in snow mode, I don’t have that many opportunities to tinker.

I wouldnt compare your vehicle to mine, it’s apples or oranges at different tracks in different conditions in different countries. There’s a stock F-type R on this forum that’s run quicker times than me, so it’s quite relative. You’d probably see a good increase if you tuned it. My car is much quicker with the mods than without.
 
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Old 04-23-2018 | 09:00 AM
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Keep in mind the cat temp is a calculated value, so even if you did something to cool it down, th vehicle would still dump fuel. Waiting for the coolant/oil temps to drop is the most effective tool outside of major tuning.

Yes, 11.39 is my current personal best. I’ve been struggling with the fuel dump issue and AWD wheel spin with the tune and pulley. New tires are a top priority this spring before I go again. I have not been launching in snow mode, I don’t have that many opportunities to tinker.

I wouldnt compare your vehicle to mine, it’s apples or oranges at different tracks in different conditions in different countries. There’s a stock F-type R on this forum that’s run quicker times than me, so it’s quite relative. You’d probably see a good increase if you tuned it. My car is much quicker with the mods than without.

Very true, different tracks, air quality impact time.

All my runs are at Santa Pod which is pretty much the only drag strip remaining in the UK, its a great smooth surface and is 2 degrees uphill, so its quite a true track not been downhill like some.

What you can compare though I'd say is 60FT times, my best so far is 1.75s and the car in wet mode is consistently under 1.80s, in dynamic it tends to be around 1.85s with suspension on soft, put it on hard and its around 1.90s.

I run Michelin PS4S and so far they grip great, even with upto 45psi in them, so I think your tyres will help a lot. If your still spinning up with new tyres and in wet mode speak to your tuner to maybe limit boost in 1st gear.
 
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Old 04-23-2018 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Gibbo205
What you can compare though I'd say is 60FT times, my best so far is 1.75s and the car in wet mode is consistently under 1.80s, in dynamic it tends to be around 1.85s with suspension on soft, put it on hard and its around 1.90s.
My drag strip (Milan Raceway, Milan Michigan) is far from a high quality track. I’ve been launching in dynamic, with sport mode and manually shifting. My 11.39 run netted a 1.702 60ft. It’s usually 100-500ft down the track where I run into issues.

I certainly will be getting PS4S tires this spring. No doubt that’s the answer.


 

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Old 04-24-2018 | 12:46 PM
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I'd love to see what a fully tuned/pulley'd V8 could do with slicks. Not a fair comparison to be sure, but it would be fun.
 
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Old 04-24-2018 | 01:18 PM
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I'd love to see what a fully tuned/pulley'd V8 could do with slicks. Not a fair comparison to be sure, but it would be fun.
For the AWDs, it probably wouldn’t make a difference. For RWD, the current fastest F-type was a 11.02 with slicks, pulley/tune, ported supercharger and meth. 10.88 with a 75 shot.
 
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Old 04-24-2018 | 01:55 PM
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My SVR with just a tune dead-hooked at the track on PS4s, so more grip will not help. It can be argued that less grip may actually make the car quicker.
 
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Old 04-24-2018 | 02:31 PM
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My SVR with just a tune dead-hooked at the track on PS4s, so more grip will not help. It can be argued that less grip may actually make the car quicker.
What times / terminals have you run in your SVR mate?
 
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Old 04-24-2018 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Gibbo205
What times / terminals have you run in your SVR mate?
11.5 @ 121 MPH stock and 11.4 @ 123 MPH with the VAP tune, both trips with the car properly heat-soaked as I wasn't aware of how significantly these cars were effected by heat at the time. I've since added VAP catted downpipes so I'll go again before the weather gets warmer. That plus better air and not letting the car idle for 10 minutes in the staging lanes will likely be worth another few tenths and MPH or two.

For what it's worth, the car is about dead even with a friend's 2016 Turbo S PDK from 60-140 MPH.
 
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Old 04-24-2018 | 03:11 PM
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11.5 @ 121 MPH stock and 11.4 @ 123 MPH with the VAP tune, both trips with the car properly heat-soaked as I wasn't aware of how significantly these cars were effected by heat at the time. I've since added VAP catted downpipes so I'll go again before the weather gets warmer. That plus better air and not letting the car idle for 10 minutes in the staging lanes will likely be worth another few tenths and MPH or two.

For what it's worth, the car is about dead even with a friend's 2016 Turbo S PDK from 60-140 MPH.
Seems hardly no improvement over stock and with the tune, I'd be rather disappointed with just a tenth and couple of mph.

Did you do pulley too?

But 60-140 sounds like that improved a lot, so noticeable stronger in roll on acceleration would you say?

Got two friends, both with Stage 4 R35 GTR's one on octane 93 and the other on race fuel. 93 one was running 11.49@128mph on Saturday against my PB of 11.3080@125mph and my mates on race fuel ran an 11.22@127mph for comparison. The octane 93 dyno at 660HP and the race fuel one ran 676HP on dyno on same day my SVR made 609HP on same dyno.

They are shocked how fast my SVR is and equally shocked how good it is off the line considering they are tuned, both are on michelin tyres like me.
 
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Old 04-24-2018 | 03:56 PM
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Not disappointed by the results. There's less upside with just a tune on an SVR as opposed to a V8S or R since they're all using the same hardware, so I never expected anything dramatic and this is on 91-octane. The difference can be felt more so on the top-end where it matters, and roughly the same difference was felt after adding the downpipes.

I don't plan on adding a pulley for now, but if I decide to, I'll add the Eventuri intake while everything is apart.
 
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Old 04-24-2018 | 04:22 PM
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Not disappointed by the results. There's less upside with just a tune on an SVR as opposed to a V8S or R since they're all using the same hardware, so I never expected anything dramatic and this is on 91-octane. The difference can be felt more so on the top-end where it matters, and roughly the same difference was felt after adding the downpipes.

I don't plan on adding a pulley for now, but if I decide to, I'll add the Eventuri intake while everything is apart.
Sounds good, by downpipes do you mean the vap 200 cel high flow cats?
 
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Old 04-24-2018 | 04:27 PM
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Sounds good, by downpipes do you mean the vap 200 cel high flow cats?
Yep.
 
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