ZF 5HP24 slips between 3rd & 4th
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ZF 5HP24 slips between 3rd & 4th
Hello -
My 97 XK8 with 55k miles recently started to slip between 3rd and 4th gears. Specifically, it will slip into neutral, the engine will rev, then it will upshift with a bang from 3rd to 4th gear. All other upshifts are ok and all down shifts are fine.
Any thoughts on what the problem may be?
I am going to service the tranny in a few weeks: change fluid, filter and valve body and install dip stick.
thanks
My 97 XK8 with 55k miles recently started to slip between 3rd and 4th gears. Specifically, it will slip into neutral, the engine will rev, then it will upshift with a bang from 3rd to 4th gear. All other upshifts are ok and all down shifts are fine.
Any thoughts on what the problem may be?
I am going to service the tranny in a few weeks: change fluid, filter and valve body and install dip stick.
thanks
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The 3-4 shift is the first thing to go when a transmission is worn out.
You will get a code P0783 from memory, when it slips from 3 to 4, the bang is what causes the code to be set.
If you're lucky it's low on fluid, and a fluid/filter change with the level set correctly might fix it, but in most cases it's a rebuild of some sort...
You will get a code P0783 from memory, when it slips from 3 to 4, the bang is what causes the code to be set.
If you're lucky it's low on fluid, and a fluid/filter change with the level set correctly might fix it, but in most cases it's a rebuild of some sort...
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yuck - dealing with my second go around with transmission rebuild. As Cambo said you'll be lucky if fluid/filter change fixes. Otherwise expect a hefty repair bill.
If you can remove/replace yourself check the DIY's here and on Gus's website. Not sure how much a rebuild would cost in Ca, but as a point of reference - I contacted Eriksson industries this week - $2295 for a rebuilt with a 1 year warranty plus $700 core charge and then freight - Eriksson Industries
In my case - I was already into the shop for $500 to remove/inspect so using Eriksson was no savings for me - looking at a $3760 price tag
If you can remove/replace yourself check the DIY's here and on Gus's website. Not sure how much a rebuild would cost in Ca, but as a point of reference - I contacted Eriksson industries this week - $2295 for a rebuilt with a 1 year warranty plus $700 core charge and then freight - Eriksson Industries
In my case - I was already into the shop for $500 to remove/inspect so using Eriksson was no savings for me - looking at a $3760 price tag
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Speaking in general, the earlier car is subject to ABS module aging issues requiring re-soldering of the main power posts. The main ECU also has its own aging issues typically requiring a rebuild. There are many threads about this on this forum, you can start with the stickies. As usual, for intricate problems like this one, you have to start with extracting the diagnostic codes with a Jaguar-aware code reader. One you have them, feel free to post them so folks can help better.
Best of luck, keep us posted.
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Chase out the traction control issue first. Start with making sure that the ABS sensors are clean and in good working order 5hp24 is a "smart" electronic transmission, and the TCU controls the process of shifting from gear to gear by controlling how much pressure is applied to clutches. The TCU also has a habit of chatting with ECU and ABS/Traction control computer via the CAN bus. If your ABS system is misbehaving, it can seriously confuse your TCU and cause all kinds of transmission-related grief.
Did you change the trans fluid and filter recently? There are some shitty "OEM" filters for 5ph24 out there. I would only install one that came from ZF in a ZF-branded box.
Did you change the trans fluid and filter recently? There are some shitty "OEM" filters for 5ph24 out there. I would only install one that came from ZF in a ZF-branded box.
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Hi papi121212,
Welcome to the Jaguar Forums. It's great to have you with us.
Please visit the New Member Area - Intro a MUST and post an introduction so we can learn something about you and your Jaguar and give you a proper welcome.
You have posted in the forum for the Jaguar X100 (XK8 and XKR models from 1997 to 2006), in a thread about the ZF 5HP24 5-speed transmission. Depending on year and engine of your XF, it probably has the ZF 6HP28 6-speed or 8HP45 or 8HP70 transmission, which are very different.
If you will start a new thread in either the X250 or X260 forum (depending on your model year), knowledgeable owners of similar cars may be able to help.
Cheers,
Don
Welcome to the Jaguar Forums. It's great to have you with us.
Please visit the New Member Area - Intro a MUST and post an introduction so we can learn something about you and your Jaguar and give you a proper welcome.
You have posted in the forum for the Jaguar X100 (XK8 and XKR models from 1997 to 2006), in a thread about the ZF 5HP24 5-speed transmission. Depending on year and engine of your XF, it probably has the ZF 6HP28 6-speed or 8HP45 or 8HP70 transmission, which are very different.
If you will start a new thread in either the X250 or X260 forum (depending on your model year), knowledgeable owners of similar cars may be able to help.
Cheers,
Don
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