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Old 02-22-2018 | 02:59 AM
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Were coachlines always applied on XJS at time of manufacturing for all the models and periods?
 
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Old 02-22-2018 | 05:45 AM
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HE models onwards, yes.
Pre-HE not always
 
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Old 02-22-2018 | 06:00 AM
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Also depends on the market. UK cars for a time had these almost exaggerated thick versions that American cars never had. My 92 has some very 1980’s looking twin lines with a little zig zag in them, and my 95 has none, Both are original paint.
 
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Old 02-22-2018 | 08:44 AM
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This will answer most of the questions--see pages VI-9 thru VI-12.

http://www.jcna.com/sites/default/fi...icity_2017.pdf
 
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Old 02-22-2018 | 09:06 AM
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My 1888 3.6 doesn't have coachlines but it was repainted and probably lost the coachlines. I've seen a 1985 3.6 same colour that has the original coachlines (see photos). I've seen on Jaguar Classic Parts UK site that coachlines should be availlable, but I don't know the price. Do you think it's better to buy and apply them on my Jag?


 
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Old 02-22-2018 | 10:23 AM
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Those thicker lines were standard until about 1987 or 8, I think. Thereafter thinner more painted-looking often dual coloured ones were normal. Your car would certainly have had them from the factory UNLESS the car was a special-order colour - in which case the owner could have specified no lines. Jaguar did not advertise special order colours as an option as rule (the insignia programme on the facelifts apart) but they could be had if you were the sort of customer they wished to please. In your case much more likely that after the respray they were left out.
As to "should you"? Entirely a matter of personal taste!
 
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Old 02-22-2018 | 10:32 AM
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Yeah, in my view as well. The ones in the picture don't get it for me. Too fat and not strategically placed.


The ones on my XJ wuzza six are far thnner and just seem to be in the right place.


Same for my 94 Jeep. thin and placed nicely.


On the XJs in the picture, they just detract from the sle4ek sides rather than embellish them.


Again a matter of taste, for sure.


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Old 02-22-2018 | 02:02 PM
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Gentlemen the final word on coach lines--what is custom and what is stock is simple to solve. as they were all tape one only has to look in the proper parts catalog. If there are part numbers so be it--if not then no.
 
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Old 02-23-2018 | 01:46 AM
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Gentlemen the final word on coach lines--what is custom and what is stock is simple to solve. as they were all tape one only has to look in the proper parts catalog. If there are part numbers so be it--if not then no.
They have part numbers.
 
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Old 02-23-2018 | 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by George Camp
Gentlemen the final word on coach lines--what is custom and what is stock is simple to solve. as they were all tape one only has to look in the proper parts catalog. If there are part numbers so be it--if not then no.
As sugested by George I've read on http://www.jcna.com/sites/default/fi...icity_2017.pdf
1976 - 1986 XJS NO PIN STRIPES
1987 thru 1990 XJS + H&E YES PIN STRIPES Above beltline, below door handle
Because my Jag started to run January 1988 I think in origin it had the stripes and they should apply in the right way and place as showed in the photos I attached to my previous post.
I "should not" as mandatory but I "should" if I would like to restore its originality.
Greg and Geroge, thanks a lot for your support!
 
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Old 02-23-2018 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by tpicotti
1976 - 1986 XJS NO PIN STRIPES
Unless the USA was different, I do not think that the end date of 1986 is accurate. I have seen a factory spec USA V12 HE built in 1983 and it had coachlines, exactly as applied at the factory on UK spec cars.
 
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Old 02-23-2018 | 05:38 AM
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Well Greg it would be interesting to see any documentation on that subject. I can assure you he good folks that compiler the list did their homework. It is a list compiled for North America --the NA part of JCNA! I will tell you the dealers in NA are known for adding many things to their stock to stand out. Chrome wire wheels --pin stripes--leapers and so on. I am sure you can "see" almost anything but the point is did it leave the factory that way. Certainly it could be applied by a dealer and possibly it could have been "special" order but that would be reflected in documents. Jaguar had determined that coach lines were "dated" and wished to not use them unless the market demanded.
 
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Old 12-04-2018 | 08:46 PM
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I may be missing something, but I wish there were a way to SEE what these various colors/lines look like. I haven't found a place in my car or in the documents that I have available to me where it says which color(s)/part number was used on my car. I just want to fix the front left fender, so I don't want to redo the whole car, and I don't want to waste the time and money guessing which one to order until I get it right. I know that my paint is glacier white (NDP) and my trim is barley (AFW). Any thoughts or direction would be appreciated.

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Old 12-06-2018 | 12:47 PM
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There is someone advertising on e bay uk that has a selection of colours for the thinner type of stripe. With regard to the thicker style of stripe and end dates I agree with Greg. My 3.6 coupe which was a late 1987 had the thicker stripe. I needed to replace some of mine on my facelift car (thinner style) after a front end paint. A local graphics company produced me 2 sets for the sum of £60. I have one set in a drawer ready to go on my 89 convertible. They are the thinner pinstripe style correct for that year. Apart from a small curve at the front they are a easily obtainable twin stripe from any motor factors. The graphics company simply scaled things up from a photo and you can have any colours you wanted. A cost effective suggestion. I hope this has been of some help.
 
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Old 12-06-2018 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by tpicotti
As sugested by George I've read on http://www.jcna.com/sites/default/fi...icity_2017.pdf
1976 - 1986 XJS NO PIN STRIPES
1987 thru 1990 XJS + H&E YES PIN STRIPES Above beltline, below door handle
At least one exception to the above is my 1990 XJS convertible never had coachlines from factory. It is a Classic Collection special edition so that may explain the exception. I actually have the 1990 XJS brochure for North America, and none of the cars in the brochure have coachlines because they are all Classic Collection versions in the photographs.
 
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Old 12-21-2018 | 04:58 AM
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I did make custom coachlines in Corel Draw and cut it from the vinyl. Really like them. If somebody is interested can provide a file ao it can be easily be done quickly.




 
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Old 12-24-2018 | 01:21 AM
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My 84 has 2 thin belt lines that were on it when I bought it, they need to be replaced, but I am going to stay with the original thin line
 
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Old 12-25-2018 | 11:53 AM
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My ‘85 HE V12 has no coach lines, and I am pretty sure it has the original paint

My ‘86 HE V12 has thin coach lines.

So, unless ‘85 was a special order, maybe Jaguar introduced coachlines in ‘86 to US market?
 
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Did anyone get this in vector-format?
 
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Old 05-24-2024 | 12:49 PM
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Coachlines were a mystery for Jaguar dealers and esp. in different markets. A book was issued that was/is very helpful. have included some shots from the book and one roll of tape in its original British Leyland box. We have a few dozen of these but they are too old for anything but ref. material.






 
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