Crazy leverage!
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Crazy leverage!
Check this out! Was a complete dumbass and ended up draining the tranny of all of its fluid before I tried getting the fill plug out. Ended up using a closed end wrench for better leverage whilst trying to get the fill plug out, and my wrench (thankfully nothing hurt me) broke like this!
I am going to try and apply some heat to the bolt with a hair dryer on max heat then I am going to use a can of compressed air and freeze the head of the bolt and try it again later tonight. Once that bugger comes off, I will be able to fill her up again and drive! I will be more careful in the future for sure. Either someone overcranked this plug to the MAX - or it has never been taken off of the car in its entire life. It is IN there.
I am going to try and apply some heat to the bolt with a hair dryer on max heat then I am going to use a can of compressed air and freeze the head of the bolt and try it again later tonight. Once that bugger comes off, I will be able to fill her up again and drive! I will be more careful in the future for sure. Either someone overcranked this plug to the MAX - or it has never been taken off of the car in its entire life. It is IN there.
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https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/xk-xkr-x150-33/6hp26-transmission-service-2007-xkr-155883/
"to access that stupid fill plug. Insert your hex socket and universal joint with an extension"
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SNAPCHAT (08-01-2024)
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The way OP's post is worded, and the way the ring spanner broke, has me thinking the spanner was being used to extend the allen key.
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I removed my fill plug with the gearbox out of the XK a week or so ago and used a breaker bar with the 8mm Allen hex socket drive as it was in so tight from the factory. If I had been doing that with the gearbox in the car I would have struggled as there is not enough space between the plug and the bodywork to use a socket drive, even with a universal joint.
Remove the heat shield as this helps and you can remove the shield without lowering the rear end of the gearbox. If removing the heat shield is not sufficient then lowering the rear of the gearbox would be my next approach. Removing the catalytic converter would also help but having done that to remove the gearbox, I would suggest you don't go down that route.
The best tool which easily fits the space and does not need any gearbox lowering, uses the socket set 8mm Allen bit and can take a lot of force with a large ring spanner and which worked well for me when tightening the plug back after filling is one of these shown below. You can get some serious force through this and extend the ring spanner with a pipe, or whatever, as necessary.
Richard
Remove the heat shield as this helps and you can remove the shield without lowering the rear end of the gearbox. If removing the heat shield is not sufficient then lowering the rear of the gearbox would be my next approach. Removing the catalytic converter would also help but having done that to remove the gearbox, I would suggest you don't go down that route.
The best tool which easily fits the space and does not need any gearbox lowering, uses the socket set 8mm Allen bit and can take a lot of force with a large ring spanner and which worked well for me when tightening the plug back after filling is one of these shown below. You can get some serious force through this and extend the ring spanner with a pipe, or whatever, as necessary.
Richard
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I removed my fill plug with the gearbox out of the XK a week or so ago and used a breaker bar with the 8mm Allen hex socket drive as it was in so tight from the factory. If I had been doing that with the gearbox in the car I would have struggled as there is not enough space between the plug and the bodywork to use a socket drive, even with a universal joint.
Remove the heat shield as this helps and you can remove the shield without lowering the rear end of the gearbox. If removing the heat shield is not sufficient then lowering the rear of the gearbox would be my next approach. Removing the catalytic converter would also help but having done that to remove the gearbox, I would suggest you don't go down that route.
The best tool which easily fits the space and does not need any gearbox lowering, uses the socket set 8mm Allen bit and can take a lot of force with a large ring spanner and which worked well for me when tightening the plug back after filling is one of these shown below. You can get some serious force through this and extend the ring spanner with a pipe, or whatever, as necessary.
Richard
Remove the heat shield as this helps and you can remove the shield without lowering the rear end of the gearbox. If removing the heat shield is not sufficient then lowering the rear of the gearbox would be my next approach. Removing the catalytic converter would also help but having done that to remove the gearbox, I would suggest you don't go down that route.
The best tool which easily fits the space and does not need any gearbox lowering, uses the socket set 8mm Allen bit and can take a lot of force with a large ring spanner and which worked well for me when tightening the plug back after filling is one of these shown below. You can get some serious force through this and extend the ring spanner with a pipe, or whatever, as necessary.
Richard
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SNAPCHAT (08-01-2024)
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Ended up having to drop the exhaust on the right side to get proper torque on the ALAN/hex key for the fill plug. Oil hasn't been changed in the diff or the tranny since day 1! 100k miles. 160k KM. Got the plug out, replaced the old 17-18 year old fluid + oil pan with new ZF 6 fluid - and I am happy to report ZERO (0) LURCHING and ZERO (0) HARD SHIFT ISSUES - all transmission issues have been resolved and the disgusting fluid was 100% the culprit.
edit// Yes, I am going to do 1-2 more flushes the same way I did it the first time. Going to try and dilute as much of the ATF with the new stuff as best as I can, NOW that I can take the damn fill plug out! lol
edit// Yes, I am going to do 1-2 more flushes the same way I did it the first time. Going to try and dilute as much of the ATF with the new stuff as best as I can, NOW that I can take the damn fill plug out! lol
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