ULEZ : Ultra Low Emission Zone charges
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ULEZ : Ultra Low Emission Zone charges
Are we all up to speed on these new charging zones?
By 2020 these cities will be charging any motorised vehicle with some exemptions to enter the defined area of the city based
on which Euro rating they comply with.
London
Birmingham
Derby
Leeds
Nottingham
Southampton.
Minimum requirement for ULEZ compliance:
The ULEZ standards are:
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ult...k-your-vehicle
Charges atm seem to be between £6 and £12-50.
I am not sure if this charge is per day or per entry of the zones?
By 2020 these cities will be charging any motorised vehicle with some exemptions to enter the defined area of the city based
on which Euro rating they comply with.
London
Birmingham
Derby
Leeds
Nottingham
Southampton.
Minimum requirement for ULEZ compliance:
The ULEZ standards are:
- Euro 3 for motorcycles, mopeds, motorised tricycles and quadricycles (L category)
- Euro 4 for petrol cars, vans, minibuses and other specialist vehicles
- Euro 6 for diesel cars, vans and minibuses and other specialist vehicles
- Euro VI for lorries, buses and coaches and other specialist heavy vehicles.
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ult...k-your-vehicle
Charges atm seem to be between £6 and £12-50.
I am not sure if this charge is per day or per entry of the zones?
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Steve M (07-15-2018)
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Busa (07-17-2018)
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Graham, there is a complex list of reasons for the exclusion of a range of different vehicles from the ULEZ charges, with changes being applied to those
exemptions over a period of time. It almost seems made to catch people out and as you say the most polluting vehicles like buses and taxi's are exempt at the present time.
This policy will discourage people from driving into city centre's and that's fine for me personally because it means I will not visit. Not fine for anyone who commutes to work and cannot change their car.
I know other cities will follow suit fairly quickly. Coventry is an example.
exemptions over a period of time. It almost seems made to catch people out and as you say the most polluting vehicles like buses and taxi's are exempt at the present time.
This policy will discourage people from driving into city centre's and that's fine for me personally because it means I will not visit. Not fine for anyone who commutes to work and cannot change their car.
I know other cities will follow suit fairly quickly. Coventry is an example.
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I don't want to be around when they fly building materials into the cities using drones because that is exactly what is being mooted.
Banning all diesel construction vehicles will otherwise wreck building construction in the capital.
I can't really see pallets of bricks, sheets of glass and cubic metres of wet concrete being flown across London by drones to numerous different
building sites is going to happen myself.
Banning all diesel construction vehicles will otherwise wreck building construction in the capital.
I can't really see pallets of bricks, sheets of glass and cubic metres of wet concrete being flown across London by drones to numerous different
building sites is going to happen myself.
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Confused.
Just for the fun of it I checked out my car on the ULEZ compliance checking system.
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ult...k-your-vehicle
All good and my car passed because it meets Euro 4 emissions standard. Just to remind you mine is a 2.5 SE petrol automatic with late August 2002 registration with 6 speed box.
The minimum for ULEZ is Euro 4 for petrol cars and Euro 6 for Diesel cars.
Having done the ULEZ test which is basically entering your license plate/registration number the results page then lists the T-charge:
"Congestion Charge and T-Charge"
"Your vehicle may also be subject to the Congestion Charge and/or T-Charge. This is a daily charge for driving a vehicle within the charging zone between 07:00 and 18:00, Monday to Friday (two-wheeled vehicles are not affected)."
So I used the online checker for the T-charge and the result said my car is not compliant for the T-charge and the reason given is because my car "does not meet Euro 4 standard". https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/emissions-surcharge
Can some other UK members please try this, perhaps with a few other engine combinations to see whats going on or is it just the 2.5 V6 petrol engine which seems to be an issue for these government emissions for some reason?
Just for the fun of it I checked out my car on the ULEZ compliance checking system.
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ult...k-your-vehicle
All good and my car passed because it meets Euro 4 emissions standard. Just to remind you mine is a 2.5 SE petrol automatic with late August 2002 registration with 6 speed box.
The minimum for ULEZ is Euro 4 for petrol cars and Euro 6 for Diesel cars.
Having done the ULEZ test which is basically entering your license plate/registration number the results page then lists the T-charge:
"Congestion Charge and T-Charge"
"Your vehicle may also be subject to the Congestion Charge and/or T-Charge. This is a daily charge for driving a vehicle within the charging zone between 07:00 and 18:00, Monday to Friday (two-wheeled vehicles are not affected)."
So I used the online checker for the T-charge and the result said my car is not compliant for the T-charge and the reason given is because my car "does not meet Euro 4 standard". https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/emissions-surcharge
Can some other UK members please try this, perhaps with a few other engine combinations to see whats going on or is it just the 2.5 V6 petrol engine which seems to be an issue for these government emissions for some reason?
Last edited by Busa; 10-11-2018 at 04:12 PM.
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The taxation class from DVLA is somewhat odd.
For my 2002, 2.5 V6 petrol, S type the V5 document lists it as: 249 g/km or CO2 emissions.
Reading the DVLA site, tax rates for 249 g/km gives it an annual rate of tax of £540, but its not that much on mine its only £315.
There is a short note underneath the tax tables which says: " *Includes cars with a CO2 figure over 225g/km but were registered before 23 March 2006."
The * is by the tax band K for 201 - 225 g/km
So the 2.5 petrol is in tax band K for a car of 201 to 225 g/km. But the V5 says it is 249 g/km.
There is no DVLA explanation of this other than the car was registered before 23 March 2006.
So perhaps the ULEZ checker is using the Euro 4 based on the 201 to 225 g/km and the T-charge checker is using the higher figure of 249 g/km?
But be aware there is a significant discrepancy between the ULEZ and the T-charge rating of the 2.5 V6 S type.
ULEZ says its a Euro 4 and the T-charge says not.
Is it worth contacting TFL?
For my 2002, 2.5 V6 petrol, S type the V5 document lists it as: 249 g/km or CO2 emissions.
Reading the DVLA site, tax rates for 249 g/km gives it an annual rate of tax of £540, but its not that much on mine its only £315.
There is a short note underneath the tax tables which says: " *Includes cars with a CO2 figure over 225g/km but were registered before 23 March 2006."
The * is by the tax band K for 201 - 225 g/km
So the 2.5 petrol is in tax band K for a car of 201 to 225 g/km. But the V5 says it is 249 g/km.
There is no DVLA explanation of this other than the car was registered before 23 March 2006.
So perhaps the ULEZ checker is using the Euro 4 based on the 201 to 225 g/km and the T-charge checker is using the higher figure of 249 g/km?
But be aware there is a significant discrepancy between the ULEZ and the T-charge rating of the 2.5 V6 S type.
ULEZ says its a Euro 4 and the T-charge says not.
Is it worth contacting TFL?
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London ULEZ comes into effect on 8th April 2019.
So from that date any non-compliant car entering central London will have to pay £24 a day.
£11-50 congestion charge + £12-50 ULEZ charge.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-39488291
From 8 April 2019, the most polluting cars, vans and motorbikes will have to pay £12.50 to drive through central London, while buses, coaches and HGVs will pay £100. The charge will apply to petrol cars that do not meet Euro 4 standards and diesel vehicles that do not meet Euro 6 standards.
So from that date any non-compliant car entering central London will have to pay £24 a day.
£11-50 congestion charge + £12-50 ULEZ charge.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-39488291
From 8 April 2019, the most polluting cars, vans and motorbikes will have to pay £12.50 to drive through central London, while buses, coaches and HGVs will pay £100. The charge will apply to petrol cars that do not meet Euro 4 standards and diesel vehicles that do not meet Euro 6 standards.
Last edited by Busa; 01-08-2019 at 05:30 AM.
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Too many local government offices do little or nothing to take legal action against blue badge misuse.
I see it myself when a car pulls up into a disabled space and someone get's out who probably isn't the badge holder and there is nothing physically wrong with them.
After spending 6 years on elbow crutches I do know when people have walking disabilities or not.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-46715503
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The roll out of these ULEZ in UK cities will continue and they will without doubt raise the bar as to which vehicles are chargeable.
The London ULEZ is going to be expanded fairly soon.
But the ULEZ on their own will not reduce city centre pollution fast enough to avoid EU fines.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/new...educe-15650328
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To clarify about the London ULEZ (Phase 1) it applies in the congestion charging zone and comes into play on the 8th April 2019.
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/low...nges-2020-2021
The London ULEZ charging zone (Phase 2) will increase in size on 25th OCtober 2021.
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ult...where-and-when
I recommend anyone who will be driving in the Zone to check the terms and rules of charging if their vehicles are chargeable.
For instance if a chargeable vehicle enters the zone before midnight and leaves the zone after 00-01, then 2 x ULEZ charges are payable.
"When ULEZ operates
A daily charge runs from 00:01-midnight. If you drive within the ULEZ area across two days, for example before midnight and after midnight, you will be liable to pay two daily charges if your vehicle that doesn't meet the ULEZ standards."
Vehicles which are not registered in the UK will also have to pay ULEZ charges under the same rules.
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/low...nges-2020-2021
The London ULEZ charging zone (Phase 2) will increase in size on 25th OCtober 2021.
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ult...where-and-when
I recommend anyone who will be driving in the Zone to check the terms and rules of charging if their vehicles are chargeable.
For instance if a chargeable vehicle enters the zone before midnight and leaves the zone after 00-01, then 2 x ULEZ charges are payable.
"When ULEZ operates
A daily charge runs from 00:01-midnight. If you drive within the ULEZ area across two days, for example before midnight and after midnight, you will be liable to pay two daily charges if your vehicle that doesn't meet the ULEZ standards."
Vehicles which are not registered in the UK will also have to pay ULEZ charges under the same rules.
Last edited by Busa; 01-31-2019 at 11:29 AM.
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So they called me a cockeyed optimist
Immature and incurably green
Best of luck chasing those fines.
Graham
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Roger
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I am slightly confused by the fact that my 2000 XJ8 doesn't pass the London ULEZ test but one registered later the same year does. I am making a spreadsheet to see if it's worth buying a later model when the ULEZ zone expands next Oct !. As I only use the car a few times a month it might not be worth the hassle of selling it and buying an later one. I totally understand why ULEZ needs to be enforced in London but allowing an 19 year old 3.2 litre V-8 car to pass and not allowing a 20 year old one seems quite strange to me !
best
Pete
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Pete
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I am slightly confused by the fact that my 2000 XJ8 doesn't pass the London ULEZ test but one registered later the same year does. I am making a spreadsheet to see if it's worth buying a later model when the ULEZ zone expands next Oct !. As I only use the car a few times a month it might not be worth the hassle of selling it and buying an later one. I totally understand why ULEZ needs to be enforced in London but allowing an 19 year old 3.2 litre V-8 car to pass and not allowing a 20 year old one seems quite strange to me !
best
Pete
best
Pete
Roger