Well I hate to say it, but this guy is spot on. I mean let's be real here folks. Look at all the posts that cover the same issues, one thing after the other. Over and over and over, regardless of year. So all this BS about the first 2 years of a car being the worst. PLEASE! Maybe for other cars but not this car. The X-Type is a POS period. I don't give a crap what year you have. This car should win Lemon of the century. Anyone who says their X-Type is the shiznit is in freakin denial. If I haven't made myself clear, let me try this again. THIS CAR IS A POS! Am I bitter? You're damn right I am. If you look back at my previous posts over the last couple of years I have given nothing but praise for this car. I've defended the X-Type both here on the forums and in the real world, but no more. I'm tired of having to explain to my wife every time she asks why the car is having problems again? How much is it this time? I have never in my 20+ years of owning cars spent this much time and money on repairs. EVER! In fact if I added up all the repair bills for all the cars I have ever owned. They would still come out less than what I have spent on this one car. I'm tired, tired, tired of defending this car. " FearTheLeaper" I called myself. Should have called myself "FearTheDealer"... Well that's all folks.. Peace! I'm outta here!

 

Oh and moderators do yourself and the rest of the world a favor and never delete these rants. If the previous posts keeps a newbie from ever buying this car. It would be justice served. Jaguar should be ashamed of themselves.

 

I have a 2004 X-Type 2.5 with manual trans and it has been steller for me the 5 yrs I have owned it. I have done regular maintenance, along with a few items covered/not covered under select warranty. I have not put thousands into it like other owners have, I would say besides regular maintenance about $500 or so for fixes. And that was at the dealer and my local Jag specialist. BUT the motor, trans, TC have not failed me so far and I have put almost 50k on it since I purchased it.

I would never call it a POS and the worst car I have ever owned, BUT one of the best I have owned. And I have owned Fords, Lincolns, Chevys, Mazdas, etc. Its a 7 yr old car and it still gets looks and I still get compliments on it.

Every car company makes cars that have their fair share of issues or "lemons" as some people would say. Some more then others BUT in the case of the X-Type its hit or miss with whatever yr you own. A buddy of mine has a black 02 and he has not had a major issue with it what so ever.

Maybe Jaguar will get it right when they come out with their new baby Jag in a few yrs. I would hope it will be AWD with a possible v8 option?? We all can dream cant we..

Tomorrow I am going to wash my X and do a mini detail so she look purdy..

 

First of all calling a Jag bitch is not nice, actually calling a car bitch that carries your *** from a to b is not nice at all, we see that you had a bunch of problems with your X type but the X type you had was a ford mondeo (Ford CDW27 platform) with a jaguar leaper on it. I have even seen X types that were made in Taiwan,so it sure is not the best jag, but anyway we all knew Jags were not the most reliable cars when we bought our cars, a Jag is like a real cat, it needs your attention all the time, a Jag can not be a Lexus or a Mercedes, it has a soul. Anyway you said you won't be fooled again, and yet you ended up buying a Jeep.

 

Again, we have vendors who are the dealers at the same time . Nalley , JPAM .Ask everyone on the forums they will give you 100 % feedback .
Bashing dealers is not a good attitude . Jaguar dealers may be not be top spot at overall but that doesn't mean you will never buy a Jag or drop your car off to the dealer for maintenance

 

Sorry, but I'm not buying it. Did the OP get a lemon?... Maybe. Could it have been abused?... Maybe. Do we read about common issues on the forum?... Absolutely.

What you don't see is the majority of owners who've never visited a car forum. You don't get to hear everyones story, only the people who've had problems and are here to find answers. In fact, I find it AMAZING just how quiet this forum is. If what you say is true, and the car is a POS, then why isn't this forum bursting with activity? Granted, there aren't as many Jags as other daily drivers but if they were as terrible as you claim, this forum would be nothing but complaints. Instead, we have a healthy mix of people who've experienced problems but persevered and noobs bringing in fresh ideas to keep things interesting.

I haven't read any reports, nor heard enough owners complaining about the X's reliability, to come to the conclusion that it's a POS. What I hear mostly are complaints from people who didn't do their reseach, didn't anticipate repair costs or don't know how problematic AWD can be to own and maintain. They just saw a Jag they could "afford" and leaped.

Me, I keep my eyes open for years just waiting for my next car to pop up on radar. I searched over a year for my Sport and actually traded in my last Jeep for it. I had planned to trade-in my 05 X-type 2 years ago but here I am still driving it because the right car hasn't popped up yet. Nothing would be an upgrade without spending more than I want to spend. And unless it's a MB, BMW or Audi, I'll lose AWD which I rely on to get me to work in the worst weather when I'm needed the most.

When I decided on the Jag I factored in what the repair costs could be compared to how much more I'd be spending on a comparable AWD BMW or MB. They were thousands more right off the bat and are suseptable to the same repair costs. So I concidered my outright savings to be a repair fund. As it turns out, I've yet to spend anything on a repair. So far, just normal maintenance and wheels. And all this time I get to drive a car you don't see everywhere and still looks fresh.

Lastly, my local Jag dealer has made all my visits the best I've ever made to any dealer. The service and professionalism was always top notch. I always felt welcome and appreciated as a customer. I've owned many brands of vehicles over the years and I've never been so spoiled. Upon leaving the GM dealer with my Corvette I feel like a need an attorney and a shower.

 

That's me, I got mine last summer and it was the first car I look at, pay 5k for it no bothering its an 02 and got 100k on it because it was really cheap. I consider myself lucky, the major problem I had was the center bearing that whines during the winter, and cost $800 to fix. Other minor repairs are like bushing and joints that didn't cost a lot. Overall, I don't think it's a bad car, drives really great (compare to my ex volvo 240 since x is like second car I ever had) and it is very solid car.

You're a big boy, don't put the blame on the car, admit you never done enough research.

 

Ray, so sorry to hear your rant about your car and the issues you've had.
As per your quote above, posts like these will never be removed UNLESS they are defamatory and or really going to town with foul language etc.
This is not a biased forum, in the sense that all comments / opinions are allowed here. It is biased in the sense that we are all Jag owners / Jag lovers, but thats all.

C5Pilot put it well as far as I'm concerned about how quiet thew forum is compared to say BMW / Mercedez sites etc.

We have a decent mix here of guys who for the most part enjoy and love their rides. Some have more problems than others and we all try to help each other out as best we can.

You don't say if you're selling the car and moving on or not?
either way, you're always welcome here. If you do decide to move on we wish you the best of luck with your next car.

 

You know its funny, i hear the same thing about x types all the time. People get in them cause theyre the least expensive jaguar to buy, and the most expensive to own....did i make myself clear, i'll say it again the x type is least expensive jaguar to buy and the most expensive jaguar to own
and even though there are issues with all the other models that are common too, most of the time those owners arent bitchen cause they have a different perspective of the car(avg statements in threads). Im helping my ex wife to get another jaguar and she was on the lot 2 days ago with her boyfriend as we we're looking at jags, mostly the xj's though 05 and newer, like her old 1(which I still have), and then she walked up to an xtype and opened the door, to which i replied "NO!" dont even. They laughed and walked on. Cause you know who gets to fix it
anything can be a money pit(just like the house I own now) and anytime you dump money into anything above what you were expecting, you bitchh and hate it and tell everyone. do I have sympathy, no. because its hit and miss on anycar on the issues you have. I can say that I have seen customers that hate new Jags cause they have it in the shop all the time complaining about every squeek, rattle, or occassional hickup that never seems to do it when we have it or did it once. Theyre reall ynever happy with anything the drive or own in talking to them and just look for everything wrong instead of what's right. Those customers too have distorted perceptions with statements like " I shouldnt have these issue with a $80k or $100 car!" I have customers with more money in a car than that with just as many issues. Really, does spending more money on something get you less problems? More stuff on a car and a bigger house, and pretty woman on your arm ALL have higher maintenance costs and problems. So until Jesus builds a car quit thinking money fixes eveything and gets everything. more money=more problems and more stuff that can go wrong. its still humans that build,design and assemble cars and parts, and guess what, those same parts on your Jaguar are the same parts in your Lexus, Benz, Ford, Gm, BMW etc..
Manufacturers dont make parts, others companies do, and in todays world there is more and more SHARED parts and assemblies than ever to control costs....
Jaguar ashame?? really, why, for putting out a 30k Jaguar and to do that they went with parts suppliers that are the low bidder because the public wanted a 30k Jag?....
okay Im done Ive got a Xtype POS to work on behind me

 

OK, lets address these one at a time, we come here looking for advise for common, or at least we all hope they're common so we can get the proper fix, every forum is the same. You don't see praise that often, you see people asking if other people have had the same issue.

All of my issues boil down to one thing, faulty maintenance, if someone (not a Jag dealership) had not installed my windshield incorrectly I would have had 0 issues, not only is mine a daily driver but 80KM a day minimum daily driver. I'm in the most rain soaked part of North America on the edge of a rain forest and I know I can get in the car every day without issue. BECAUSE I MAINTAIN MY CAR!! I'm not in denial, you are choked because you went after the lux car for cheap. I notice FTL that you don't post up the year or anything else so I would be willing to bet you are the guy that saw leather seats, the leaper and jumped in both feet without so much as googling the car for reliability issues. You get what you deserve regardless of what car you chose.


You could always say to your wife that the bills are adding up because you were dumb. You didn't do any research and learn about what you were getting into. 02 and 03 have a history a mile long on the internet, once everything is done they are fine, but a 04 and on are considered reliable, at least as much as most europian cars. Regardless though, you either drove the bag out of is or more likely the previous owner did...maybe a carfax would have helped eh? Would show how much maintenance was done...likely almost none. But you did get a good deal on it right?
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

 

"Sidewalkman" I hear ya, and feel you about what your saying, I read the post too, and it is rediculas what's being said. As I said in my earliar post, I had a 03 3.0 X-type and the ONLY reason why I nolonger have it is because of a person running a turn like, driving a big pickup Truck and struck the car, having my Insurance Co. righting it off as as LOSS. I kept my maintenance up, kept it clean, and had absolutely NO problem with it at no Time. And I would have no problem ever owning one again, That ALL whell drive was excellant and the 3.0 Engine was nice too. That was one of the safest cars I've ever driven. Navigation toys were excellant, Stereo toys very nice too, even though I changed them for more Top pieces. Always used 93 Fuel and good Oil. A car like this you take care of, not let it run to s#^#, It's a JAG, not some pease of corner shop crap, It does not matter wheather it's Jag's most expensive car or lease expensive, it's still a JAG. And how many other people or friends or relatives like and respect you for owning one? People can be soo tempermental about small stuff, and take care of nothing. So again Sidewalkman, I agree with you and understand how you feel about the post.

 

I wouldn't go as far as saying it doesn't matter which Jag you buy, that's not true. The X is unique. The AWD system alone should make buyers wonder if it's worth the extra care. If you don't need AWD, the best advice to anyone, looking at any brand, is to stay away from AWD. It's just an added headache for many.

But if you need/want AWD, ask yourself how you're going to be driving it. The X is obviously not an offroad vehicle. It's also not a track vehicle. It's part of a luxury line of cars aimed at a specific group of buyers. Until the X, those buyers had to choose between braving snow covered streets with RWD or taking public transportation. The X was an answer to many people and quite frankly I feel Jag should have addressed their issues and strive to make the X an even better performer. Slacking sales don't always mean people don't want an item, it means it didn't hit the mark as closely as the competition.

I can't blame people for getting aggravated by car troubles, it's natural. But before blaming the car, I would like to know exactly how people drove all the X's that had major problems. You don't beat on luxury cars. Manufactures have to choose which components to spend the most money on during production and still delivery an affordable car. If you want to beat on something, go get one of the race proven Subaru's. But don't waste time wondering where the nice leather, style, safety, smoothness and quiet cabin went.

Life is full of decisions and compromise. It's your job as a consumer to learn what went into developing the car you intend to buy.

 

I agree with C5, YOU should have looked into the car you are buying. If YOU bought a lemon due to your own careless act you definitely should not be pointing the finger at Jaguar. If you babied your car and did all the scheduled maintenance there is no reason things should break unless your driving around like an idiot. Not to say you are, because of course all you told us is that the car sucks. Anyways have fun in your more luxurious, plusher, better built, more prestigious, and better branded Jeep.

 

Good thing you sold your X-type- I used to have a 2004 X-Type, loved it- Had a slew of problems, and got rid of it- Years later I watched the crash testing on the X-types on you tube, Side Impact testing for the x type is terrible, Total fail, probable death at 40 mph, so glad I got a Saab 9-3! Check out the Dateline video on YouTube!!!!

 

Had an '03 xtype that the wife and I loved. 3 Trans. in 12,000 miles plus a load of other problems all covered by warranty. Traded car for a '07 in Feb '09 after warranty expired on the '03. This is 2011 you can't own a car without warranty coverage unless your super rich, a mechanic, or handy with a good suppy of tools. In 2013 my warranty will be up on the '07 and I'll be shopping for either anther car or some kind of extended warranty. I've got a '98 XK8 that has had its share of 1st model year problems. It's a lot easier to work on then the x-type. You can't even buy coverage on a car this old with 90,000 miles. Thanks to these forums I'm not spending too much of my SS check on repairs. Best advise, stay away from first or second model years (also cars built on Monday and Friday) and get warranty. Jack

 

So let me get this straight...
You don't own your X anymore.
You drive a Saab.
You joined a Jag Only forum.
You immediately made your VERY first post in THIS thread.

Are those the facts? Hmmm, what to think, what to think...

I think your screen name is perfect... SOBS A LOT

 

Wow and all I came up with was. Nice Cobalt! I'm hoping Saab does turn around their past 20 years of crap but honestly, I see them going the way of TVR with the current leadership. Talking about a joint venture with BMW? Expanding their line up to 4 platforms, etc.

Having seen the side inpact, it is a whole lot better than 2/3rds of the cars out there for 2001-2002 when the car was first sold. Might want to take a look at the 9-3 side impact from that time. Then for giggles the side impact of the 9-3 convertible.

 

hahahahahahaha +1

 

Good morning C5, I agree with what you said about the X-Type AWD, and ir being a unique car. I could not have said the statement any better. I loved that AWD, it was a great feel, safe and I did notice the AWD feel on the road, especially during a hard rain. No it's not an Offroad vehicle, and if I wanted an Offroad vehicle, I would have brought one. I do miss and think about the X-Type often, as I said in my other statements, I miss and did not plan on not having around, I think Jag should consider adding AWD to some of their other models, but thats just my opinion.

 

Cobalt is Delta platform.

SAAB 9-3 is Epsilon platform.

I have owned both the 9-3 (still do) and the X type. Both have merits and demerits, are not really all that comparable IMHO.

I preferred the handling characteristics of the X type by a wide margin. My 9-3 though is probably more fun to drive. They got along well when sharing the garage.

Either way, a first forum post being in this thread and saying what he said is kind of an odd way to go about it I agree.

Hoping SAAB does a turnaround too. I've had 8 of them now and loved every one of them. The new 9-5 is way overpriced though.

Anyway...back on topic...