Front stabilizer bars (not rear front)
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Front stabilizer bars (not rear front)
So.....lug nut fell off passenger front wheel somehow. Went to Jag dealer to get a new nut. ;What's the torque"? I'd do it at 100 ft. lbs. = okie dijie, hand spun on the new nut, felt "suishy", fraker snapped right off. $310. Later for removing stud, inserting new one (w/another new nut) all is well. In servicing, dealer did the normal all points bulletin check and everything great except = front stabilizer bars are beginning to leak a little. I've looked in forums, google, etc., but have not found a good write up (& pics would be a big bonus) on removal and installation. Any guidance will be appreciated.
It's these parts =
It's these parts =
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Crapola! So front stabilizer bars or lower front stabilizer bars in google search turns up the same images I posted above. I was a little confused as well, as dealer mentioned they are "oil filled" and slightly leaking. Looking as closely at the images as possible, it didn't appear they were oil filled, but then again, it is only a picture. Description certainly doesn't mention "oil filled;.
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I think the rear bushings in the 'Swing Arms' (AKA front lower control arms) are oil filled. (I forget exactly)
Jaguar offers the complete arm but aftermarket bushes might be available?
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Jaguar offers the complete arm but aftermarket bushes might be available?
Rock Auto or Auto Parts Stores have aftermarket replacements or forum sponsors offer discounts.
Here are some examples.
DORMAN 522133
DORMAN 522134
bob
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OP, the parts you're asking about are the front lower wishbone arms. Part numbers vary by VIN, but typically they're C2S46700 (LH) and C2S46698 (RH). The large bushings on them are oil-filled; if you don't follow the correct procedure (i.e., by lowering subframe) to change the arm you'll crack the bushing and have to buy a whole new arm because the bushings themselves are not available. I own this t-shirt.
Last edited by swingwing; 05-21-2017 at 09:26 AM. Reason: Added wording.
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So Swing, the original pics are the correct parts? And if so, the larger bushing to the left side of the pic is oil filled?
Sounds like a dandy job. The other thought I've had is I sprayed fluid film on every fraking rubber component under the car trying to quiet the squeak that turned out to be the rear lower front stabilizer bars that I replaced. The bushings were literally crumbling apart. In lubricating all the exposed rubber under the entire car, I looked carefully as car was on a hoist for any fluid leak from anywhere and seen only one small drop on oil pan plug, that was replaced (btw, plug purchased as correct one shown in 3 different sites was too large = 14, it was a 13) when I serviced the oil with new filter and Castrol 15,000 synthetic. I believe the residual may be (fingers crossed) what the tech mistook for a leak. The steering is as tight as a frog's butt hole, but I am going to take a look when the monsoon weather clears up to be sure.
Sounds like a dandy job. The other thought I've had is I sprayed fluid film on every fraking rubber component under the car trying to quiet the squeak that turned out to be the rear lower front stabilizer bars that I replaced. The bushings were literally crumbling apart. In lubricating all the exposed rubber under the entire car, I looked carefully as car was on a hoist for any fluid leak from anywhere and seen only one small drop on oil pan plug, that was replaced (btw, plug purchased as correct one shown in 3 different sites was too large = 14, it was a 13) when I serviced the oil with new filter and Castrol 15,000 synthetic. I believe the residual may be (fingers crossed) what the tech mistook for a leak. The steering is as tight as a frog's butt hole, but I am going to take a look when the monsoon weather clears up to be sure.
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Dell, yes the original picture you posted is of the front lower arms, and yes the large bushings on them are oil-filled. Your opening description of "front stabilizer bars leaking" from dealership is a little confusing though. Attached is a picture from when I replaced front struts, so maybe it'll give you an idea of the layout. Notice that large head-up bolt going through the large bushing; getting that bolt out is the reason you'll need to lower the subframe. And I do mean lower; don't take the subframe all the way clear. As I recall the driver's side control arm was tougher - that's the one I broke.
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Thx Swing. I sure as hell hope my fingers crossed, just residual fluid film is the actual report of "leaking". The original post description is what was named on my invoice as well as verbally conveyed at dealer pick up time. Just says and was said "front stabilizer bar".
Looks like this replacement if actually needed will S.U.C.K.
Looks like this replacement if actually needed will S.U.C.K.
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Unfortunately, they did not, just a notation on the "Complimentary Vehicle Condition Report" of ;found front lower control arm bushings are worn, leaking".
So there may be my misinformation on post, calling them "stabilizer bars" from conversion memory. BTW, the Jag dealer gave me a loaner Range Rover Evoque while fixing the lug nut, lol.
So there may be my misinformation on post, calling them "stabilizer bars" from conversion memory. BTW, the Jag dealer gave me a loaner Range Rover Evoque while fixing the lug nut, lol.
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Well that still gets us to heart of the matter then. Sounds to me like those large bushings on your car have developed some cracks. Year and mileage of your car is? BTW, I think 100 lbs-ft is too much torque for lug nuts, especially if you've got some metal fatigue in the studs. 75-80 lbs-ft is figure I'm more used to seeing.
Last edited by swingwing; 05-22-2017 at 05:33 PM.
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