Front wishbone _ Quick reply please
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I have got the car in pieces changing the o/s ( UK ) drivers lower front wishbone. Does the long bolt slide out of the vertical bush without having to take anything else off, eg crossmember support etc. The space looks very tight above it ? I am ready to pop the bottom ball joint need to know soon. Thanks.
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Space is very tight and both bolts must be removed entirely. I think you may have to lower the rear subframe bolt to get the rear bolt out far enough to remove the arm. It is a big 21MM and two small 13mm bolts holding the bracket. then just wedge a pry bar in there to force the sub frame down far enough to get the bolt out. It's a tricky job but just be patient and play it out in you mind first.
good luck
good luck
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Mark, the JTIS states that you need to loosen the font and rear bolts of the subframe for the side you're working on. My question is, how do you know how far to loosen the bolts so you have enough room to wiggle the lower control arm out? Pardon my stupidity in asking this, but if you accidentally loosen the bolts all the way (again just the one side), what actually happens to the subframe? Will it still dangle since its held by the other side?
Space is very tight and both bolts must be removed entirely. I think you may have to lower the rear subframe bolt to get the rear bolt out far enough to remove the arm. It is a big 21MM and two small 13mm bolts holding the bracket. then just wedge a pry bar in there to force the sub frame down far enough to get the bolt out. It's a tricky job but just be patient and play it out in you mind first.
good luck
good luck
Last edited by spielnicht; 08-31-2012 at 08:39 PM.
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Cheers lads. It is going to be next weekends job now. I did most of the hard work friday, loosened and removed, unseized the balljoint pinch bolt etc and both arm pivot bolts opened up and are free.
I have 2 more questions -
1. How long are the subframe bolts ? Loosening the rear one a good inch, i am hoping the threads are 2 inch long.
2. To gain access to the front subframe bolt, which piece of undertray or liner etc do i need to remove ? Or is there an access flap cut in the undertray / liner ?
Thanks.
I have 2 more questions -
1. How long are the subframe bolts ? Loosening the rear one a good inch, i am hoping the threads are 2 inch long.
2. To gain access to the front subframe bolt, which piece of undertray or liner etc do i need to remove ? Or is there an access flap cut in the undertray / liner ?
Thanks.
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Done it. Took me 4 hours. I will write a tutorial when i get chance.
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New Pinch bolt is essential before starting !!!
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Front subframe bolt.
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Wishbone rear bolt nut.
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Rear subframe bolt and safety plate.
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WD40 ran down inside of bush.
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Remove rear safety plate bolts.
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Undo bolt with long bar and 21mm socket.
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Arm released from balljoint and front mounting. Swiveled around to help the long bolt out.
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Improvisation. Me and my mate Jack. Lever subframe down or wedge jack handle in and use a socket extension to pump your jack up and do the levering for you.
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New for old. Match new part for pattern.
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New arm rear mount back in
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Front mounting bolt in.
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Balljoint and pinch bolt fitted
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Front subframe bolt location.
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You could easily drill out a 1 inch hole in the undertray or cut a flap to save the tedious hours of freeing the rusted bolts off.
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New Pinch bolt is essential before starting !!!
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Front subframe bolt.
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Wishbone rear bolt nut.
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Rear subframe bolt and safety plate.
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WD40 ran down inside of bush.
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Remove rear safety plate bolts.
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Undo bolt with long bar and 21mm socket.
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Arm released from balljoint and front mounting. Swiveled around to help the long bolt out.
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Improvisation. Me and my mate Jack. Lever subframe down or wedge jack handle in and use a socket extension to pump your jack up and do the levering for you.
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New for old. Match new part for pattern.
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New arm rear mount back in
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Front mounting bolt in.
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Balljoint and pinch bolt fitted
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Front subframe bolt location.
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You could easily drill out a 1 inch hole in the undertray or cut a flap to save the tedious hours of freeing the rusted bolts off.
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Last edited by Yorkiemark; 09-07-2012 at 02:09 PM.
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