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Hey everyone, new to the site. Also new to Jaguar, just purchased an '05 X-Type VDP (3.0 AWD). It has 117K miles, and I do not have a comprehensive maintenance history. I'm interested in everyone's thoughts on changing the gear box fluid. I've been reading some posts and I understand that it's a sealed system, but some are saying that they drain and refill with new fluid.
What are your thoughts? Would you change it if you purchased this car?
The gearbox is a JATCO JF506E used in VW, Land Rover, Mazda, Jaguar, Ford Mondeo and some other cars.
The filter is an internal screen so replacement is not practical. The fluid should be renewed occasionally.
Plenty of posts about the transfer case fluid and diff oil.
Castrol Import Multi-Vehicle ATF seems to be the most popular and it is one that I use for customer cars. I maintain a LOT more customer VWs with the 09A gearbox than the X-Type but there are a lot more VWs.
The gearbox is a JATCO JF506E used in VW, Land Rover, Mazda, Jaguar, Ford Mondeo and some other cars.
The filter is an internal screen so replacement is not practical. The fluid should be renewed occasionally.
Plenty of posts about the transfer case fluid and diff oil.
Castrol Import Multi-Vehicle ATF seems to be the most popular and it is one that I use for customer cars. I maintain a LOT more customer VWs with the 09A gearbox than the X-Type but there are a lot more VWs.
bob
I would refill the transfer case asap, next would be reaplacing the trans oil.
Many of us just replace 3qts of trans oil 3 times.
When u open the trans drain plug, only 3 qts will drain (assuming the level was correct)
So replace plug and pour in 3 qts of trans oil... Do this 3 times over a week.
To refill the transfer case, one side of the car has to be jacked up pretty high (search thermo's posts for actual height)
It only takes a tiny amount of oil (again search thermo) i forget how much. When you drain the transfer case, dont expect much oil to come out
Thank you all for the replies so far! This is all very helpful.
Has anyone added Lucas Oil products into the mix for transmission, differential or transfer case? I've heard good things about their products, but I'm not 100% sure on the proper applications.
I mention royal purple as it has a certain quality that helps repair or heal metal scaring. I'm sure it is at a molecular level..but none of the other Lubes claim to have this property...I don't think adding any additive will gain anything.
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I use the Lucas trans conditioner, and it seems to make the shifts a little crisper. I have always used it in all my cars, and haven't had any trouble yet. As expensive as a trans is to replace, I leave no rock unturned.....Good Luck.....Mike
I use the Lucas trans conditioner, and it seems to make the shifts a little crisper. I have always used it in all my cars, and haven't had any trouble yet. As expensive as a trans is to replace, I leave no rock unturned.....Good Luck.....Mike
mrplow58,
What did you pair the Lucas product with? Did you follow the Lucas instructions and actually go '1 bottle overfill'?
What did you pair the Lucas product with? Did you follow the Lucas instructions and actually go '1 bottle overfill'?
Thank you!
I paired it up with Castrol Multi Import Transmission fluid. I did the overfill, because I figured the additional would vent out after awhile. I didn't overfill as much in the X Type, because the trans is smaller than the XK8.......My 2 cents....Mike
Is overfilling and letting it run out the vent, as good a way as any of getting the level correct?
Letting excess "vent" is not necessary.
Once the drain plug is removed and no more oil is coming out, replace the plug and pour in 3 qts through the fill plug under the battery. This will ensure the correct level.
Do you really want vented oil all over the underside of the car which may lead to you thinking there is an oil leak somewhere?
The actual "correct" way of checking the level is pretty weird from what i remember.
Perhaps someone can remind us of how its done.
Checking fluid level is not WEIRD, it is the way most cars I work on are checked. The car needs to be LEVEL and the fluid needs to be at a certain TEMP.
The level is then checked just like a manual trans or DIFF in that the fluid will 'dribble-out' of the level hole when it is at the correct level.
Dipsticks are basically a waste of money. Almost NOBODY even opens the bonnet of the car to do ANYTHING. People don't even change a tire if it goes flat. Call a wrecker and off to the repair center for ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!
I changed oil in a friends Mercedes and there is NO engine oil dipstick. You pour in the correct amount of oil and then you push some buttons on the steering wheel to see if the level is OK.
DIY is a dying art!!!
bob
Last edited by motorcarman; 02-21-2016 at 09:22 PM.
Checking fluid level is not WEIRD, it is the way most cars I work on are checked. The car needs to be LEVEL and the fluid needs to be at a certain TEMP.
The level is then checked just like a manual trans or DIFF in that the fluid will 'dribble-out' of the level hole when it is at the correct level.
Dipsticks are basically a waste of money. Almost NOBODY even opens the bonnet of the car to do ANYTHING. People don't even change a tire if it goes flat. Call a wrecker and off to the repair center for ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!
I changed oil in a friends Mercedes and there is NO engine oil dipstick. You pour in the correct amount of oil and then you push some buttons on the steering wheel to see if the level is OK.
DIY is a dying art!!!
bob
Dipsticks are awesome... As long as one knows the correct way to use them... Opening plugs and having oil dribble out while under the car with the engine running is kinda redneck idea, but for some reason thats what we have.
I prefer the "common" method i suggested
02-14-2016, 06:44 PM
Gear Box Fluid - To change or not to change...
