Jaguar X-Type Not starting / "Gearbox Fault" - Please help!
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Jaguar X-Type Not starting / "Gearbox Fault" - Please help!
Hi all:
This is for a 2002 Jaguar X-Type 2.5L AWD with automatic trans. I bought it like this. The car won't turn over (starter won't even engage). The car also stays in park, and I cannot shift out of it. The display in the gauge cluster states "Gearbox Fault." I know the battery is dead, but even if I use jumper cables or jump starter, it won't allow me to shift out of park nor turn the engine over. The lights, fan, radio, headlights and etc all work.
Any ideas/tips would be appreciated!
Thanks in advance.
This is for a 2002 Jaguar X-Type 2.5L AWD with automatic trans. I bought it like this. The car won't turn over (starter won't even engage). The car also stays in park, and I cannot shift out of it. The display in the gauge cluster states "Gearbox Fault." I know the battery is dead, but even if I use jumper cables or jump starter, it won't allow me to shift out of park nor turn the engine over. The lights, fan, radio, headlights and etc all work.
Any ideas/tips would be appreciated!
Thanks in advance.
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J. Romanello (07-11-2014)
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Same problem
My 03 2.5 is doing the same thing, and has been since the windshield was replaced.
There are many posts related to this gear box failure...no cruise control default....seems most are solved without major cost, once you find the problem and most of those relate to moisture getting in through the windshield and/or windshield wipers either into a sensor or wiring.......good luck it's a pain in the ****.
There are many posts related to this gear box failure...no cruise control default....seems most are solved without major cost, once you find the problem and most of those relate to moisture getting in through the windshield and/or windshield wipers either into a sensor or wiring.......good luck it's a pain in the ****.
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Car still won't start! As stated earlier, the OBD2 reader won't read any codes. It does have power to it though. I was able to take the key out of the ignition, and put the shifter back in park. I believe the car is in park. The key won't start or turn the engine over. If you cross the power in the starter solenoid, it would turn over but not start.
Any ideas?
Any ideas?
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The car does have a cracked windshield, so I thought moisture/water could get into the TCM and ruin it. I pulled out the TCM, and there was no corrosion in it at all.
This leads me to believe it may be the ECU. I located it behind the right strut tower. There were two nuts on either side of it, and a star-shaped "security" nut. I took both nuts off, but it would not come out. Anyone have any idea how to pull it out?
I believe the antennas are functioning. When the button for the power lock or trunk is pressed, the locks unlock and trunk pops open.
I was told there might be some cracked EVAP line? I pulled of the intake box, and did not notice ANY evap lines. The only thing was the PCV pipe, which seeed to be in good condition.
I also had some turn the key to the on position, and press the throttle pedal. With the intake tube off, I noticed that the butterfly was not moving. Should it move?
One last thing, when you turn your key to the "ON" position, does your gas gauge needle move? My needle is on "E", I don't know if it is broken, or if there's no gas in it, or if it's not supposed to move.
Thanks.
This leads me to believe it may be the ECU. I located it behind the right strut tower. There were two nuts on either side of it, and a star-shaped "security" nut. I took both nuts off, but it would not come out. Anyone have any idea how to pull it out?
I believe the antennas are functioning. When the button for the power lock or trunk is pressed, the locks unlock and trunk pops open.
I was told there might be some cracked EVAP line? I pulled of the intake box, and did not notice ANY evap lines. The only thing was the PCV pipe, which seeed to be in good condition.
I also had some turn the key to the on position, and press the throttle pedal. With the intake tube off, I noticed that the butterfly was not moving. Should it move?
One last thing, when you turn your key to the "ON" position, does your gas gauge needle move? My needle is on "E", I don't know if it is broken, or if there's no gas in it, or if it's not supposed to move.
Thanks.
Last edited by Cadillac; 08-04-2010 at 12:39 PM. Reason: upon the poster's request
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Have you tried putting a known good, fully charged battery in? I know you said you've jumped it etc, but these cars are finicky about needing a strong battery. I'd do that before anything else.
When you turn the key, yes the gas needle should move.
A total guess but another place to look would be the shifter or interlock solenoid that allows the J gate to move. If something there is screwed up it might be preventing the car from recognizing it is in Park and starting.
When you turn the key, yes the gas needle should move.
A total guess but another place to look would be the shifter or interlock solenoid that allows the J gate to move. If something there is screwed up it might be preventing the car from recognizing it is in Park and starting.
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Have you tried putting a known good, fully charged battery in? I know you said you've jumped it etc, but these cars are finicky about needing a strong battery. I'd do that before anything else.
When you turn the key, yes the gas needle should move.
A total guess but another place to look would be the shifter or interlock solenoid that allows the J gate to move. If something there is screwed up it might be preventing the car from recognizing it is in Park and starting.
When you turn the key, yes the gas needle should move.
A total guess but another place to look would be the shifter or interlock solenoid that allows the J gate to move. If something there is screwed up it might be preventing the car from recognizing it is in Park and starting.
I'll try switching it out with a stronger battery. Also, what are symptoms of the J gate failure? Once I take it out of park, I have to slam it back into park for it to go back in. Someone said try to here some clicking noise by the shifter, but I haven't heard any. Can someone post a picture of what the solenoid itself look like? That way I can see if its actually engaging or not.
Also, could this have anything to do with the OBD2 port not reading? The car seems to be stuck in gear.
Thanks.
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As far as the J Gate, this is what I've found:
If I put it in reverse, and if someone is behind the vehicle, the backup sensor goes off. Doesn't this mean that it understands its in reverse?
I sprayed starter fluid, no luck. I doubt it would've done anything to begin with.
By the way, this is with a fresh/strong battery.
Again, does anyone know how to take the ECU out? I've taken the two 10 mm bolts off the two sides, but there appears to be a 5-point star security screw/nut.
Thanks.
If I put it in reverse, and if someone is behind the vehicle, the backup sensor goes off. Doesn't this mean that it understands its in reverse?
I sprayed starter fluid, no luck. I doubt it would've done anything to begin with.
By the way, this is with a fresh/strong battery.
Again, does anyone know how to take the ECU out? I've taken the two 10 mm bolts off the two sides, but there appears to be a 5-point star security screw/nut.
Thanks.
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The star shaped bit is a torx security bit. You can get them at most hardware stores. Sounds like you need to remove it to get the ECU out. I've never taken it out of this car, so just going by your description.
I have no more suggestions, other than perhaps it's time to bite the bullet and tow it to the dealer.
I have no more suggestions, other than perhaps it's time to bite the bullet and tow it to the dealer.
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TPRO, I would first say to check the fuse for the ECU and TCM. See if by chance that you simply had a fuse that blew. I don't have my JTIS Service CD with me as I am on vacation, but I will be getting back shortly and will then be able to give you the specific fuse number to check. Based on what you are describing, you either have a bad ECU or the fuse(s) for the ECM are blown (possibly due to age, possibly due to a fault). Give me a few more days and then I will be able to get your car back to 100%.
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TPRO, I would first say to check the fuse for the ECU and TCM. See if by chance that you simply had a fuse that blew. I don't have my JTIS Service CD with me as I am on vacation, but I will be getting back shortly and will then be able to give you the specific fuse number to check. Based on what you are describing, you either have a bad ECU or the fuse(s) for the ECM are blown (possibly due to age, possibly due to a fault). Give me a few more days and then I will be able to get your car back to 100%.
I really appreciate your response. Were you able to get back from your vacay? I tried the fuses, and no luck. I used the X-type diagram that is posted on here.
Do you know how I can remove the ECU? I removed the two nuts from the engine bay that hold it onto the firewall. There is one long bolt that goes through it that I have no idea how to remove. (5 pointed star, with raised circle in center). Do you know how many bolts are in the cabin side of the firewall?
Also, let say if I were to determine it is a bad ECU. Do I need to tow the car to the dealer? Can I just bring the key and ECU and they can program it? How much does it cost? (Price and hours).
Thanks!
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Oddly enough I have the same problem with my x type, can't start it and won't even make a sound. I also can't scan it with the OBD tool, but I have the same problems popping on my cluster. Gearbox faul etc....
anybody came to a solution or got any ideas/suggestions ?
anybody came to a solution or got any ideas/suggestions ?
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The ECU is not removed via the engine compartment. To remove the ECU you have to look underneath the glove compartment on the passenger side. There is another module attached to it, the chassis computer module, with color coded plugs. There will be a single bolt against the floor holding the assembly down.
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yes, i also got the same problem but on my screen it said "Transmission Fault" and it does not want to start the engine.
is anyone here can help me?....cos im so desperate to drive a jaguar...i just bought this used only 1 month ago.
by the way my jag is 3.0 AWD.
Please helppppp....maybe EXEXPAT can help.
I appreciate it guys.
is anyone here can help me?....cos im so desperate to drive a jaguar...i just bought this used only 1 month ago.
by the way my jag is 3.0 AWD.
Please helppppp....maybe EXEXPAT can help.
I appreciate it guys.
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