Jaguar X Type Suspension question
#22
I think the X-type is a fine project car, esp. with the info. on this site to help you thru it. Say you and your wife pick one up on the cheap, you could pull together a nice Jag.
That's pretty cool to have a wife that's into it with you, lol!
#23
Yea! I have plans for the x I own a s-class now I love that cat she's my first s type I'm starting the collection I had two xj8 before I sold them both the first one was because of a good offer the second one was because I wasn't driving it as much as the s but ill be hunting for another wild one again I see that you're in the az area me and my wife wil be moving that way in a few
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Do u not think tho tha the kw coilovers will give a far better turn in? From previous experience on ter cars u just cantbeat the coilovers as u can set them up for a relly great drive tho can be slightly frmer. U can soten the dampening too.
I c from ur avatar u changed the front and rear way bars? Did it make much difference? What sort of cts and we u get them from?
thanks
Richard
I c from ur avatar u changed the front and rear way bars? Did it make much difference? What sort of cts and we u get them from?
thanks
Richard
The sway bars made an unbelievable difference, the car is so much more fun to drive with wider tires and bigger sway bars. A LOT of fun. You can pm me for more information.
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Lowered
Last edited by Patterson; 08-30-2011 at 02:19 AM.
#30
Sway Bar....
Just curious.
#31
Here is a great page on sway bar tech: Mustang Anti-sway Bars
I always liked how the car rides and didn't want to change the damping of the setup but I wasn't happy with how much the car leaned in the turns so I turned to sway bars to improve the handling vs. lowering springs and struts. The car is soooo much more stable through the turns now. Although the sway bar install needs to be revisited for various reasons...
Next on the list is some sort of suspension overhaul, not sure which route I'm going though. I'm probably going to go the budget route and do the sport suspension upgrade on The Bitch (that's my car's nickname).
Does anybody know if the Arden setup is appreciably different from the factory sport suspension?
I always liked how the car rides and didn't want to change the damping of the setup but I wasn't happy with how much the car leaned in the turns so I turned to sway bars to improve the handling vs. lowering springs and struts. The car is soooo much more stable through the turns now. Although the sway bar install needs to be revisited for various reasons...
Next on the list is some sort of suspension overhaul, not sure which route I'm going though. I'm probably going to go the budget route and do the sport suspension upgrade on The Bitch (that's my car's nickname).
Does anybody know if the Arden setup is appreciably different from the factory sport suspension?
#32
Do u not think tho tha the kw coilovers will give a far better turn in? From previous experience on ter cars u just cantbeat the coilovers as u can set them up for a relly great drive tho can be slightly frmer. U can soten the dampening too.
I c from ur avatar u changed the front and rear way bars? Did it make much difference? What sort of cts and we u get them from?
thanks
Richard
I c from ur avatar u changed the front and rear way bars? Did it make much difference? What sort of cts and we u get them from?
thanks
Richard
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#34
Wow so you need to remove the tie rod ends to get to the struts? Calipers as well? I watched a youtube video on changing the stuts for the xjr (I think) and they didn't have to remove the calipers, or the tie rod ends if I recall. I am getting new tie rod ends but they just shipped them out and won't be here til next week. Was wanting to get started on the springs this weekend though. I'm not sure either if I should do the tie rod ends when I change the springs and struts, or do the springs first, see how that goes, then change the tie rod ends and give me time to recuperate. I also got new front struts, but now I am hearing squeaks from all my shocks as I pay attention to it more now. Not sure what to do. Want new rear shocks but then again maybe I am just trying to do too much. If I hadn't been installing lowering springs I probably would have driven around on my old struts another 20,000 miles (or until my passenger side wobbly wheel got worse to the point where it felt unsafe)... Hence new tie rod ends... Not sure what I should do. Once I get the front struts and springs and tie rods installed, I can change the rear shocks later any day. A new alignment may be needed then again though.
A few weeks back I contacted JaggyX about a set of H&R springs he had for sale. Jaggy basically gave them to me, $100, and today my buddy David removed the stock springs on my X-Type and replaced them with the H&R’s. My friend David is a mechanic; Me? I just handed off tools, and moved the floor jack around. It's the best I could do without getting in the way.
The front end was quite a job - to say the least. We had to pull the wheels, brake calipers, tie rods, and drop the A-arms on both sides, just to get to the spring/strut assemblies and remove each one. The front springs took about 2 hours to remove and replace. Luckily D boy has air tools, this made dis-assembly & assembly go quick compared to trying to turn every nut & bolt by hand with ratchets. Plus, his air ratchet has a torque setting for re-assembly! At this point it’s just about knowing how to take it all apart, and, get it back together exactly how it was in the first place. Lol!
Rear End: It was much easier to R&R the rear springs. For one, we didn’t have to pull the wheels off. We simply jacked the rear end up pretty high, and removed the large (alignment) bolts holding the lower control arms to the frame, and then dropped the arms to free the spring/shock bundles. The 2 rear springs took about an hour.
The ride quality is the same... taking it easy over speed bumps...
[Total front & rear springs replaced in 3.0 hours]
The front end was quite a job - to say the least. We had to pull the wheels, brake calipers, tie rods, and drop the A-arms on both sides, just to get to the spring/strut assemblies and remove each one. The front springs took about 2 hours to remove and replace. Luckily D boy has air tools, this made dis-assembly & assembly go quick compared to trying to turn every nut & bolt by hand with ratchets. Plus, his air ratchet has a torque setting for re-assembly! At this point it’s just about knowing how to take it all apart, and, get it back together exactly how it was in the first place. Lol!
Rear End: It was much easier to R&R the rear springs. For one, we didn’t have to pull the wheels off. We simply jacked the rear end up pretty high, and removed the large (alignment) bolts holding the lower control arms to the frame, and then dropped the arms to free the spring/shock bundles. The 2 rear springs took about an hour.
The ride quality is the same... taking it easy over speed bumps...
[Total front & rear springs replaced in 3.0 hours]
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#35
"Wow so you need to remove the tie rod ends to get to the struts? Calipers as well? I watched a youtube video on changing the stuts for the xjr (I think) and they didn't have to remove the calipers, or the tie rod ends if I recall."
Basically, I removed the strut assemblies, changed the springs to HRs, and put them back from whence they came..Then I replaced the rear springs with HRs.
I'd say it's somewhat of a fine art to get the struts assemblies re installed correctly. Elbow grease is one thing, but knowledge of the suspension lay-out is key. Enjoy the pics.
Basically, I removed the strut assemblies, changed the springs to HRs, and put them back from whence they came..Then I replaced the rear springs with HRs.
I'd say it's somewhat of a fine art to get the struts assemblies re installed correctly. Elbow grease is one thing, but knowledge of the suspension lay-out is key. Enjoy the pics.
Last edited by Patterson; 03-14-2014 at 01:21 AM.
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