one more questio about rust
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I've yet to see a Jag rusting in NY. MAYBE an older one, but I've never seen a 2000's jag rusting. It's too late at that point, better care should have been taken to prevent it in the first place.
I'd get rust-killing primer, and do the bottom of the car and suspension and differentials. Then I'd get rubber undercoating and go over top of that. Make sure the bottom of the car is spotless before all this. Then go to a rusterminator authorized dealer and have one of those installed.
I'd get rust-killing primer, and do the bottom of the car and suspension and differentials. Then I'd get rubber undercoating and go over top of that. Make sure the bottom of the car is spotless before all this. Then go to a rusterminator authorized dealer and have one of those installed.
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Oh wow I see what happened. Well that is NOT a good situation. What color is your car? You can buy this black rust inhibitor, it comes with a pad, almost a scouring bad, to put the liquid on. I think rustoleum makes it. It makes a black surface thats rock hard on top of the rust thats there, and it wont let the rust get any worse. Grab some sand paper and gently smooth the bubbles/rough surface out, and put this rustoleum rust stopper on top
Perhaps try this out:
http://paint-and-supplies.hardwarest...ay-143875.aspx
Its not what I used, but it seems to have the same premise. The stuff I used was in a white bottle with I believe a red cap, and it came with the scouring/application pad on the side of the bottle.
Perhaps try this out:
http://paint-and-supplies.hardwarest...ay-143875.aspx
Its not what I used, but it seems to have the same premise. The stuff I used was in a white bottle with I believe a red cap, and it came with the scouring/application pad on the side of the bottle.
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Oil can resist corrosion, but it will deteriorate the factory undercoating, also void the corrosion warranty.
As much as an oil cover piece of metal will rust more slowly, an oily part, covered with dirt, and then wet with salty water... will rust faster.
If you oil spray, you need to do it often, and remove the dirty that sticks to it often.
Imagine the poor piece of metal that would otherwise be salty for a day, with oily dirt it might be salty all summer long!
The very best protection is an impermeable layer of protection, (powder coat primer) against the metal, and then paint and a good rubberised coating to protect from abraision.
most of all the best protection is KEEP IT CLEAN>>> spotlessly clean under the car and under the motor hood. every little bit of dirt will make the car rust faster.
I have done many many salt spray tests for the automotive industry. Rust is one of the most horrible bits of subjective decision making by car owners... maybe tied for unscientific thinking with when to change your motor oil!!!!
As much as an oil cover piece of metal will rust more slowly, an oily part, covered with dirt, and then wet with salty water... will rust faster.
If you oil spray, you need to do it often, and remove the dirty that sticks to it often.
Imagine the poor piece of metal that would otherwise be salty for a day, with oily dirt it might be salty all summer long!
The very best protection is an impermeable layer of protection, (powder coat primer) against the metal, and then paint and a good rubberised coating to protect from abraision.
most of all the best protection is KEEP IT CLEAN>>> spotlessly clean under the car and under the motor hood. every little bit of dirt will make the car rust faster.
I have done many many salt spray tests for the automotive industry. Rust is one of the most horrible bits of subjective decision making by car owners... maybe tied for unscientific thinking with when to change your motor oil!!!!
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electric things need three things to work, an annode, a cathode, and an electrolyte.
you need to put just the exact voltage on the system to counteract the gavlanic activity.
The cathode and annode need to be in the electrolyte.
IN a ship there may be some validity to this, as the ocean is a good electrolyte.
On a car.... you need salty water that is continuously connected to make a circuit between two parts that are at a different electric potential. Basically this is impossible to re-create predictibly. and only works during the time that the car is FULLY salty and wet.
I dont see the technical merit.. I wish it worked, but science says otherwise.
you need to put just the exact voltage on the system to counteract the gavlanic activity.
The cathode and annode need to be in the electrolyte.
IN a ship there may be some validity to this, as the ocean is a good electrolyte.
On a car.... you need salty water that is continuously connected to make a circuit between two parts that are at a different electric potential. Basically this is impossible to re-create predictibly. and only works during the time that the car is FULLY salty and wet.
I dont see the technical merit.. I wish it worked, but science says otherwise.
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I'm with Jimmy. If those thigs worked they would have been on cars years ago or at least offered as an option. Short of doing the doing what Jimmy suggests make sure you get the underbody sprayed at the car wash in winter. Am very familiar with snow and salt where I live and cringe every time in winter when I see that white coating all over my car after it snows, but that's life in the upper midwest (first salting was done just the other night!). Actually earlier in the summer when my car was up on the rack for an oil change I took a good look at the bottom. Was actually pretty surprised to see how good it looked under there.
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well, actauly the idea that they put them on cars is very recent, pipeline companys have been using them for years, y running a electric, negative currretn through tht pipes to prevent corroison and envirment damgae, the cathode/ anadoe and electrolyte , i think, is something abit diffrerent. You have to be able to runn a negative current though the metal, in order to prevent the electrons from oxidizing and cuaing rust. I woul write up teh red-ox equations but im sure we all don't want a repeat of high school chemistry.lol
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All of the quick fix ideas are all on the wrong track. The so called Rustoleum is only good for lawn chairs that can be cheaply replaced after the rust apart. I am a retired Dept of the Navy Corrosion Control Specialist, dealer and rep. for Cortec, the largest Corrosion prevention Company on the planet. I can supply you with rust remover, rust coating, rust killer, emitter pads, degreaser that leaves a protective coating and additives to add to the radiator, gas tank and oil to prevent corrosion anyplace they go. All of this is guaranteed and most of it can be painted over.
Powder caoting is not a rust barrier, I have seen powder coated aluminum housings rust away and leave the coating sitting on the ground in a pile of alum. oxide. Email me and I will send information. dspiper@comcast.net D.Shearer
Powder caoting is not a rust barrier, I have seen powder coated aluminum housings rust away and leave the coating sitting on the ground in a pile of alum. oxide. Email me and I will send information. dspiper@comcast.net D.Shearer
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