Q...about brake pads..
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Q...about brake pads..
Hi guys, I need to change my front brake pads soon and I dont know if I should replace them with OEM pads or try something else.
I've heard some EBC pads are good but still not sure which one..I have 04 with 3.0 engine if that help.
What do you guys use and where to can I get them.????? \
Thanks
I've heard some EBC pads are good but still not sure which one..I have 04 with 3.0 engine if that help.
What do you guys use and where to can I get them.????? \
Thanks
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RE: Q...about brake pads..
When in doubt go with OEM. That's how I've always felt, at least.
That said I've been very impressed with the Akebono ceramics on my XJR. Lots of stopping grip, quiet, and NO DUST !
Not sure if they make 'em for all Jag models but its worth a look, IMHO
Cheers
DD
That said I've been very impressed with the Akebono ceramics on my XJR. Lots of stopping grip, quiet, and NO DUST !
Not sure if they make 'em for all Jag models but its worth a look, IMHO
Cheers
DD
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RE: Q...about brake pads..
Jag now supply EBC Greenstuff as standard. Redstuff are much better especially when added to the slotted grooved rotorsspeaking from personal experience.
Akebono also seem to be a favourite with a few members from past experience.
Check out the quick link thread in the X type section for pretty much everything ever posted up about brakes / pads / rotors.
Good luck with whatever you decide to go with. One things for sure they'll be a step up from stock.
Jim
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RE: Q...about brake pads..
ORIGINAL: christo
What if i just want pads that dont give off so much dust? I already have newer rotors and want to ride them out.
What if i just want pads that dont give off so much dust? I already have newer rotors and want to ride them out.
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RE: Q...about brake pads..
Not sure. TireRack gives them a 3 out of 5 stars for stopping power, which after looking at their rating system. seems to imply they're as good as OEM, not materially better. The areas where the Akebonos seem to excel are in low noise (5 out of 5 stars) and low dust (4 out of 5 stars), and of course the aforementioned low rotor wear.
http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/brake...o+Ceramic+Pads
Maybe some owners on this forum who use Akebono pads can provide amore personalassessment of stopping power.
http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/brake...o+Ceramic+Pads
Maybe some owners on this forum who use Akebono pads can provide amore personalassessment of stopping power.
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RE: Q...about brake pads..
I'm no pro, but I have over 35 years with messing around with Brakes..Call it my subjective opinion, but based on my personal experiences and candid objectivity....
The Akebono Euro pads are the best for stopping, quiet and dust free performance (all great attributes in one package)compared toany OEM pad and Rotor set up I've seen or used..This includes, but not limited to;Mercedes, Toyota, Nissan,Land Rover and of courseJaguar...I don't know how they will work with stock rotors, but they are superb, working in harmony with EBC Slotted and Dimpled Rotors...Did I mention wear?...after 15,000 miles they look like barely any Pad material has eroded and the Rotors look like new and you can't even feel a lip in the edge of the rotoryet.
The Akebono Euro pads are the best for stopping, quiet and dust free performance (all great attributes in one package)compared toany OEM pad and Rotor set up I've seen or used..This includes, but not limited to;Mercedes, Toyota, Nissan,Land Rover and of courseJaguar...I don't know how they will work with stock rotors, but they are superb, working in harmony with EBC Slotted and Dimpled Rotors...Did I mention wear?...after 15,000 miles they look like barely any Pad material has eroded and the Rotors look like new and you can't even feel a lip in the edge of the rotoryet.
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RE: Q...about brake pads..
ORIGINAL: MattSteele
Not sure. TireRack gives them a 3 out of 5 stars for stopping power, which after looking at their rating system. seems to imply they're as good as OEM, not materially better. The areas where the Akebonos seem to excel are in low noise (5 out of 5 stars) and low dust (4 out of 5 stars), and of course the aforementioned low rotor wear.
http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/brake...o+Ceramic+Pads
Maybe some owners on this forum who use Akebono pads can provide amore personalassessment of stopping power.
Not sure. TireRack gives them a 3 out of 5 stars for stopping power, which after looking at their rating system. seems to imply they're as good as OEM, not materially better. The areas where the Akebonos seem to excel are in low noise (5 out of 5 stars) and low dust (4 out of 5 stars), and of course the aforementioned low rotor wear.
http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/brake...o+Ceramic+Pads
Maybe some owners on this forum who use Akebono pads can provide amore personalassessment of stopping power.
This is my 3rd Jag. I can't say that I've felt any of them were weak in the braking department so I'm not gonna say that Akebonos made it feel like I could stop a freight train or anything like that.
WhatI particularly like about the Akebono pads is that they are very progressive and easy to modulate ...unlike some HP pads where you feel like you are trying to push over a brick wall with your foot. Kinda hard to describe but if you need a lot of brake the Akebonos have a "bite" quality to them that inspires confidence yet in gentle driving you just have to tickle the pedal for a nice stop.
I know this isn't a very scientific description.
Cheers
DD
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RE: Q...about brake pads..
Steer clear of stock.Mine nearly killed us and there was still plenty of wear on them.
Upgraded to Redstuff ceramics all around with turbo grooved discs all around (the ones with slots and dimples) and after nearly 2 years on the pads and discs look virtually new still
Re brake dust....only dirt on my wheels is road grime even after some long hard braking and that wipes off dead easily
Great brakes wont buy any other kind ever again.
Nearly had a few )0(s intoback end and have had to release the brakes to stop getting rear ended by some nutters who try to drive too close or arent concentrating when I brake hard even though they think they have room.
Nice feel to the brakes hot or cold, dont fade and stop me when I want top stop where I want to stop!
Upgraded to Redstuff ceramics all around with turbo grooved discs all around (the ones with slots and dimples) and after nearly 2 years on the pads and discs look virtually new still
Re brake dust....only dirt on my wheels is road grime even after some long hard braking and that wipes off dead easily
Great brakes wont buy any other kind ever again.
Nearly had a few )0(s intoback end and have had to release the brakes to stop getting rear ended by some nutters who try to drive too close or arent concentrating when I brake hard even though they think they have room.
Nice feel to the brakes hot or cold, dont fade and stop me when I want top stop where I want to stop!
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RE: Q...about brake pads..
My X-type experience totals perhaps 30 minutes so I'm not really familiar with them at all. I am a bit surprised at comments about weak-ish braking on a Jag. Are the brakes just not big enough or what?
The brakes on my XJR seem fantastic, as did the brakes on my older Jags. They'll "Stop on a dime and give two cents change"
<shrug>
Cheers
DD
The brakes on my XJR seem fantastic, as did the brakes on my older Jags. They'll "Stop on a dime and give two cents change"
<shrug>
Cheers
DD
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RE: Q...about brake pads..
Not to beat a dead horse Buck, but I dont think your experience with stock Jag stuff represents everyone.
My experience was IDENTICAL to yours........ the stock brakes sucked royally. totally dangerous.
WE both upgraded to REDSTUFFS.. except I got cheap rotors and you got EBC rotors.
Then our stories differ slightly. You have been totally satisfied and you swear by ebc redstuff and their rotors (even to the point of dedication to slots and dimples etc) - you also declare Jag set up to be crap.
MY brakes still sucked and I drove with Crappy brakes for a year... I assumed even further that Jag brakes were total crap.
THe next chapter of this story is that I decided to put actual OEM dealer rotors and pads on my car.
THE braking has been very good since then. So based on both of our stories... we both had bad worn oem brakes... then I got crappy rotors.
Buck never tried new OEM brakes and still claims they are rotten.
I have not tried ebc rotors, but I trust buck's work well.
anyway.. My opinion is that new OEM pads are OK.. but we have a few cases of them becomming really terrible after they are half worn.
My experience was IDENTICAL to yours........ the stock brakes sucked royally. totally dangerous.
WE both upgraded to REDSTUFFS.. except I got cheap rotors and you got EBC rotors.
Then our stories differ slightly. You have been totally satisfied and you swear by ebc redstuff and their rotors (even to the point of dedication to slots and dimples etc) - you also declare Jag set up to be crap.
MY brakes still sucked and I drove with Crappy brakes for a year... I assumed even further that Jag brakes were total crap.
THe next chapter of this story is that I decided to put actual OEM dealer rotors and pads on my car.
THE braking has been very good since then. So based on both of our stories... we both had bad worn oem brakes... then I got crappy rotors.
Buck never tried new OEM brakes and still claims they are rotten.
I have not tried ebc rotors, but I trust buck's work well.
anyway.. My opinion is that new OEM pads are OK.. but we have a few cases of them becomming really terrible after they are half worn.
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RE: Q...about brake pads..
ORIGINAL: bojangles
So based on both of our stories... we both had bad worn oem brakes...
So based on both of our stories... we both had bad worn oem brakes...
After seeing the brakes myself I then had this verified by a dealer and a specialist...plenty of wear left on them so they should have been OK...but they werent...they were far from OK and couldnt stop safely the car even at low speeds.
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RE: Q...about brake pads..
I can't believe I stayed out of this one for more than a full page after Bo posted.....
It irks me something fierce when Bo gets all condescending on us because he feels like we haven't given Jag stuff a fair shake....
So, once more for the record: NEW JAG BRAKES SUCK. And used Jag brakes are crappy to the point of dangerous. This is "as compared" to nearly all of the other aftermarket items out there.... including (but not limited to) EBC.
Several of us have tried the JAG stuff. Some of us (myself included) even to the point of driving another identically equipped NEW one, so I could figure out what was wrong with mine. HA! Turns out it's s'posed to feel like that from Jag!!!
So once again, Bo pops-off with the "I know better than all of you, in spite of everyone else having FHE"....
To the original poster: Bo seems to display a tremendous amount of negativity towards modifying any part of your car, so keep that in mind when you read his posts. (As a side-note, he also has no respect for any knowledge gained at the racetrack, or from any-one other than himself... and I guess I should also tell you that he very quickly earned the position of my own personal "Forum Nemesis" [&:].... in case you couldn't tell )
A VERY accurate impression of the X-Type's brakes can be gained through sampling the experience of everyone who has posted in this thread.
My own personal proclivities run towards the EBC rotors and RedStuff pads.
I can absolutely guarantee you that EBC has spent much more time and resources on sorting brakes properly than Jaguar has.
It irks me something fierce when Bo gets all condescending on us because he feels like we haven't given Jag stuff a fair shake....
So, once more for the record: NEW JAG BRAKES SUCK. And used Jag brakes are crappy to the point of dangerous. This is "as compared" to nearly all of the other aftermarket items out there.... including (but not limited to) EBC.
Several of us have tried the JAG stuff. Some of us (myself included) even to the point of driving another identically equipped NEW one, so I could figure out what was wrong with mine. HA! Turns out it's s'posed to feel like that from Jag!!!
So once again, Bo pops-off with the "I know better than all of you, in spite of everyone else having FHE"....
To the original poster: Bo seems to display a tremendous amount of negativity towards modifying any part of your car, so keep that in mind when you read his posts. (As a side-note, he also has no respect for any knowledge gained at the racetrack, or from any-one other than himself... and I guess I should also tell you that he very quickly earned the position of my own personal "Forum Nemesis" [&:].... in case you couldn't tell )
A VERY accurate impression of the X-Type's brakes can be gained through sampling the experience of everyone who has posted in this thread.
My own personal proclivities run towards the EBC rotors and RedStuff pads.
I can absolutely guarantee you that EBC has spent much more time and resources on sorting brakes properly than Jaguar has.