*********** TRIED TO SCAM ME, SO THEY GOT SCAMMED BACK !
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01-10-2008, 07:21 PM
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#63
01-10-2008, 08:34 PM
RE: *********** TRIED TO SCAM ME, SO THEY GOT SCAMMED BACK !
Did you try other dealers like we said frombenz? I don't understand what else we can do if you don't listen to the advise we are giving you. I also want you to take the part about the mb performance being better than the R, just because your mad doesn't mean you gotta bash the car.
#64
01-10-2008, 08:40 PM
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Im not bashing Im giving well known facts. Just accept the truth how it is. The Jaguar S-Type R is a cool car feature wise with the options you get such as DVD Navi, Park Assist, CATS, and the 6 Speed ZF Trans. But there are better cars and the Mercedes Benz AMG Cars are all around better perfomance cars.
The C32 AMG does perform better than a Jaguar S-Type R, thats a well known fact.
Mercedes Benz C32 V6 Kompressor Supercharger0-60 is 4.9 Secs
Jaguar S-Type R V8 Supercharged 0-60 is 5.3 Secs
C32 is a much lighter car and handles moreexcellent plus it hasa V6 Kompressor Supercharger. Not only that the C32 beats the Jag S-Type R on the quater mile too.This is a well known fact. The Jaguar S-Type R loses against M3, C32 AMG, M5s, and E55 AMGs. The S-Type R is a good car, but cannot compete against Benz and BMW Performance Lineups. The 335i, and IS350 do about the same if not better performance then thew S-Type R. Only thing the Jag has are some better options such as DVD Navi, CATS, and 6 Speed ZF, but thats it.
The C32 AMG does perform better than a Jaguar S-Type R, thats a well known fact.
Mercedes Benz C32 V6 Kompressor Supercharger0-60 is 4.9 Secs
Jaguar S-Type R V8 Supercharged 0-60 is 5.3 Secs
C32 is a much lighter car and handles moreexcellent plus it hasa V6 Kompressor Supercharger. Not only that the C32 beats the Jag S-Type R on the quater mile too.This is a well known fact. The Jaguar S-Type R loses against M3, C32 AMG, M5s, and E55 AMGs. The S-Type R is a good car, but cannot compete against Benz and BMW Performance Lineups. The 335i, and IS350 do about the same if not better performance then thew S-Type R. Only thing the Jag has are some better options such as DVD Navi, CATS, and 6 Speed ZF, but thats it.
#66
01-10-2008, 08:59 PM
RE: *********** TRIED TO SCAM ME, SO THEY GOT SCAMMED BACK !
The drive cycles are all different. All you need is the P1000 to go to P1111 for readiness tests completed. If the place you are trying to get your vehicle tested at is saying NO codes. Go elsewhere. And stop having the dealer clear the codes otherwise the P1111 will never be on...lol
Just as a side note here.....I am a little pissed reading through the pages of dealer bashing. For someone to say all dealerships are *******s? A little generalization I think. I don't think anyone here has been to every dealer. Like any industry, there are good and bad.
Who said you cant change a bulb without removing a bumper? Every bulb can be changed in that vehicle without removal of bumper. Only reason bumper has to come off is to replace entire headlamp assy.
The technicians you must understand work for not much money. Most of their work is warranty work which doesn't pay crap. Everyone is complaining about select edition warranty. For every person that does I know of a hundred people that are so thankful for having it. You pay a little extra on the cost of your car to get warranty. What if you blew your engine and had to put out 15 grand to replace it? Wouldn't be complaining if select picked up the tab would you? Select edition pays for far more repairs on your vehicles than any other ext warr. you could get for your Jag.
I personally know many MB techs, and I can tell you that CPO MB warr does not cover everything on that vehicle. But whatever, if you are so turned off of Jags that you need to sell it, then sell it and stop talking about it. That C32 will never handle as well as your S-type R. Nor will it outrun it "Turning off the traction control nets the best acceleration times. We recorded a 0-to-60-mph time of 5.4 seconds, and the quarter-mile was passed in 13.8 seconds at 105.4 mph. This isn't as fast as Mercedes' claimed 4.9-second 0-to-60 figure." "The supercharged S-Type R should appeal to performance-minded buyers. While it is capable of doing the 0-60 drill in just 5.3 seconds, there's more to the R than mere muscle. It is an all-around performer, equipped with larger disc brakes, an adjustable sport-tuned suspension system and 19-inch wheels."
So there you have it, MB even needs to lie about their performance specs to have people buy there cars.
Have fun waiting for your CPO to authorize the tow truck.
Just as a side note here.....I am a little pissed reading through the pages of dealer bashing. For someone to say all dealerships are *******s? A little generalization I think. I don't think anyone here has been to every dealer. Like any industry, there are good and bad.
Who said you cant change a bulb without removing a bumper? Every bulb can be changed in that vehicle without removal of bumper. Only reason bumper has to come off is to replace entire headlamp assy.
The technicians you must understand work for not much money. Most of their work is warranty work which doesn't pay crap. Everyone is complaining about select edition warranty. For every person that does I know of a hundred people that are so thankful for having it. You pay a little extra on the cost of your car to get warranty. What if you blew your engine and had to put out 15 grand to replace it? Wouldn't be complaining if select picked up the tab would you? Select edition pays for far more repairs on your vehicles than any other ext warr. you could get for your Jag.
I personally know many MB techs, and I can tell you that CPO MB warr does not cover everything on that vehicle. But whatever, if you are so turned off of Jags that you need to sell it, then sell it and stop talking about it. That C32 will never handle as well as your S-type R. Nor will it outrun it "Turning off the traction control nets the best acceleration times. We recorded a 0-to-60-mph time of 5.4 seconds, and the quarter-mile was passed in 13.8 seconds at 105.4 mph. This isn't as fast as Mercedes' claimed 4.9-second 0-to-60 figure." "The supercharged S-Type R should appeal to performance-minded buyers. While it is capable of doing the 0-60 drill in just 5.3 seconds, there's more to the R than mere muscle. It is an all-around performer, equipped with larger disc brakes, an adjustable sport-tuned suspension system and 19-inch wheels."
So there you have it, MB even needs to lie about their performance specs to have people buy there cars.
Have fun waiting for your CPO to authorize the tow truck.
#67
01-10-2008, 09:13 PM
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The drive cycles are all different. All you need is the P1000 to go to P1111 for readiness tests completed. If the place you are trying to get your vehicle tested at is saying NO codes. Go elsewhere. And stop having the dealer clear the codes otherwise the P1111 will never be on...lol
Just as a side note here.....I am a little pissed reading through the pages of dealer bashing. For someone to say all dealerships are *******s? A little generalization I think. I don't think anyone here has been to every dealer. Like any industry, there are good and bad.
Who said you cant change a bulb without removing a bumper? Every bulb can be changed in that vehicle without removal of bumper. Only reason bumper has to come off is to replace entire headlamp assy.
The technicians you must understand work for not much money. Most of their work is warranty work which doesn't pay crap. Everyone is complaining about select edition warranty. For every person that does I know of a hundred people that are so thankful for having it. You pay a little extra on the cost of your car to get warranty. What if you blew your engine and had to put out 15 grand to replace it? Wouldn't be complaining if select picked up the tab would you? Select edition pays for far more repairs on your vehicles than any other ext warr. you could get for your Jag.
I personally know many MB techs, and I can tell you that CPO MB warr does not cover everything on that vehicle. But whatever, if you are so turned off of Jags that you need to sell it, then sell it and stop talking about it. That C32 will never handle as well as your S-type R. Nor will it outrun it "Turning off the traction control nets the best acceleration times. We recorded a 0-to-60-mph time of 5.4 seconds, and the quarter-mile was passed in 13.8 seconds at 105.4 mph. This isn't as fast as Mercedes' claimed 4.9-second 0-to-60 figure." "The supercharged S-Type R should appeal to performance-minded buyers. While it is capable of doing the 0-60 drill in just 5.3 seconds, there's more to the R than mere muscle. It is an all-around performer, equipped with larger disc brakes, an adjustable sport-tuned suspension system and 19-inch wheels."
So there you have it, MB even needs to lie about their performance specs to have people buy there cars.
Have fun waiting for your CPO to authorize the tow truck.
The drive cycles are all different. All you need is the P1000 to go to P1111 for readiness tests completed. If the place you are trying to get your vehicle tested at is saying NO codes. Go elsewhere. And stop having the dealer clear the codes otherwise the P1111 will never be on...lol
Just as a side note here.....I am a little pissed reading through the pages of dealer bashing. For someone to say all dealerships are *******s? A little generalization I think. I don't think anyone here has been to every dealer. Like any industry, there are good and bad.
Who said you cant change a bulb without removing a bumper? Every bulb can be changed in that vehicle without removal of bumper. Only reason bumper has to come off is to replace entire headlamp assy.
The technicians you must understand work for not much money. Most of their work is warranty work which doesn't pay crap. Everyone is complaining about select edition warranty. For every person that does I know of a hundred people that are so thankful for having it. You pay a little extra on the cost of your car to get warranty. What if you blew your engine and had to put out 15 grand to replace it? Wouldn't be complaining if select picked up the tab would you? Select edition pays for far more repairs on your vehicles than any other ext warr. you could get for your Jag.
I personally know many MB techs, and I can tell you that CPO MB warr does not cover everything on that vehicle. But whatever, if you are so turned off of Jags that you need to sell it, then sell it and stop talking about it. That C32 will never handle as well as your S-type R. Nor will it outrun it "Turning off the traction control nets the best acceleration times. We recorded a 0-to-60-mph time of 5.4 seconds, and the quarter-mile was passed in 13.8 seconds at 105.4 mph. This isn't as fast as Mercedes' claimed 4.9-second 0-to-60 figure." "The supercharged S-Type R should appeal to performance-minded buyers. While it is capable of doing the 0-60 drill in just 5.3 seconds, there's more to the R than mere muscle. It is an all-around performer, equipped with larger disc brakes, an adjustable sport-tuned suspension system and 19-inch wheels."
So there you have it, MB even needs to lie about their performance specs to have people buy there cars.
Have fun waiting for your CPO to authorize the tow truck.
Here is a pic to show what Im talking about.
#68
01-10-2008, 09:18 PM
RE: *********** TRIED TO SCAM ME, SO THEY GOT SCAMMED BACK !
lol....the cover you are pointing at has 4 clips holding it on. Take that off and you have full access to get your hands in there and change the bulbs. But why do you want to change bulbs? Are they not working or are they pointing down? What year is it and how many miles?
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01-10-2008, 09:23 PM
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lol....the cover you are pointing at has 4 clips holding it on. Take that off and you have full access to get your hands in there and change the bulbs. But why do you want to change bulbs? Are they not working or are they pointing down? What year is it and how many miles?
lol....the cover you are pointing at has 4 clips holding it on. Take that off and you have full access to get your hands in there and change the bulbs. But why do you want to change bulbs? Are they not working or are they pointing down? What year is it and how many miles?
#70
01-10-2008, 09:27 PM
RE: *********** TRIED TO SCAM ME, SO THEY GOT SCAMMED BACK !
I change the ballasts and the bulbs in those headlamps everyday. If a tech at the dealer you went to couldn't change a bulb, I would go to a different dealer. With regards to your post on the other forum, you answered your own question. Headlight aiming is not covered. Your headlamps illuminate. They are just not aiming, therefore it would not be covered.
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01-10-2008, 09:34 PM
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I have the Jaguar Select Edition Passport Booklet and it says the following
"Jaguar Select Edition Limited Warranty covers any factory-supplied component of the Jaguar vehicle that is defective with the exception of the following items"
On the following items it doesnt mention headlights, or headlight assemblies as an exception. However it says "Headlamp Aiming" as an exception. Thats it.
So this is misrepresentation on Jaguar Select Edition part. If it didnt cover headlights it should say Headlights as an exception.
I understand Headlamp Aiming is not covered. But what does something internally broken inside the headlamp assemblies have to do with headlamp aiming ? The internal parts are broken in my headlights the auto-adjust and the projectors are broken too, bc they are moving inside the assemblie and are pointing down.
"Jaguar Select Edition Limited Warranty covers any factory-supplied component of the Jaguar vehicle that is defective with the exception of the following items"
On the following items it doesnt mention headlights, or headlight assemblies as an exception. However it says "Headlamp Aiming" as an exception. Thats it.
So this is misrepresentation on Jaguar Select Edition part. If it didnt cover headlights it should say Headlights as an exception.
I understand Headlamp Aiming is not covered. But what does something internally broken inside the headlamp assemblies have to do with headlamp aiming ? The internal parts are broken in my headlights the auto-adjust and the projectors are broken too, bc they are moving inside the assemblie and are pointing down.
#73
01-10-2008, 09:34 PM
RE: *********** TRIED TO SCAM ME, SO THEY GOT SCAMMED BACK !
My apologies for assisting in the lowering of the tone of the neighbourhood. Frustrating to see one guy slamming the car because he can't figure out how to get his paws into a space.
#74
01-10-2008, 09:35 PM
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I change the ballasts and the bulbs in those headlamps everyday. If a tech at the dealer you went to couldn't change a bulb, I would go to a different dealer. With regards to your post on the other forum, you answered your own question. Headlight aiming is not covered. Your headlamps illuminate. They are just not aiming, therefore it would not be covered.
I change the ballasts and the bulbs in those headlamps everyday. If a tech at the dealer you went to couldn't change a bulb, I would go to a different dealer. With regards to your post on the other forum, you answered your own question. Headlight aiming is not covered. Your headlamps illuminate. They are just not aiming, therefore it would not be covered.
"Jaguar Select Edition Limited Warranty covers any factory-supplied component of the Jaguar vehicle that is defective with the exception of the following items"
On the following items it doesnt mention headlights, or headlight assemblies as an exception. However it says "Headlamp Aiming" as an exception. Thats it.
So this is misrepresentation on Jaguar Select Edition part. If it didnt cover headlights it should say Headlights as an exception.
I understand Headlamp Aiming is not covered. But what does something internally broken inside the headlamp assemblies have to do with headlamp aiming ? The internal parts are broken in my headlights the auto-adjust and the projectors are broken too, bc they are moving inside the assemblie and are pointing down.
#75
01-10-2008, 09:36 PM
RE: *********** TRIED TO SCAM ME, SO THEY GOT SCAMMED BACK !
If it says "Headlamp aiming, as an exception" than IT IS AN EXCEPTION. IF that's the agreement on the warranty you just got unlucky, read the fine print.
I found my self laughing numerous times reading the convo between Factory Jag Tech and Benz. He's a factory Jaguar Mechanic, he is trying to help you out, just humble yourself a little. Don't ask us for help and then say I did that and you don't know what your talking about. you are acting like a jackass
I found my self laughing numerous times reading the convo between Factory Jag Tech and Benz. He's a factory Jaguar Mechanic, he is trying to help you out, just humble yourself a little. Don't ask us for help and then say I did that and you don't know what your talking about. you are acting like a jackass
#76
01-10-2008, 09:38 PM
RE: *********** TRIED TO SCAM ME, SO THEY GOT SCAMMED BACK !
you still didnt answer my question. What year and how many miles.
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01-10-2008, 09:39 PM
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My apologies for assisting in the lowering of the tone of the neighbourhood. Frustrating to see one guy slamming the car because he can't figure out how to get his paws into a space.
My apologies for assisting in the lowering of the tone of the neighbourhood. Frustrating to see one guy slamming the car because he can't figure out how to get his paws into a space.
Dennis -
Anyone smell a bridge burning.....[sm=bangbang.gif]
Jim
#78
01-10-2008, 09:40 PM
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For the thousand Time I understand Headlamp Aiming is not covered. But what does something internally broken inside the headlamp assemblies have to do with headlamp aiming ? The internal parts are broken in my headlights the auto-adjust and the projectors are broken too, bc they are moving inside the assemblie and are pointing down.
#80
01-10-2008, 09:43 PM
RE: *********** TRIED TO SCAM ME, SO THEY GOT SCAMMED BACK !
Because regardless of it being broken, they are not aiming. That is it. Select is very excplicit in their description of non covered items. Headlamp aiming is not covered. Your broken motors are for aiming headlamps only. Therefore they are not covered.