are they really that terrible?
#61
Yes they are
I've wanted a x-type for over 4 years and i decided im finally going to bite the bullet later this summer and get one. I know they have generally crappy transfer cases and the transmissions are probably worse then par when it comes to reliability, but all the articles i read completely bash the x type. It's on quite a few "worst cars of all time" lists. I would be buying a 02 or 03, so i'm planning on being as careful as possible to make sure i dont get a dud. what i want to know is, is it fairly probable that if i do some decent screening and it has a clean carfax/all the neccessary maintence done, it could be a fairly reliable ride for a few years. I'm a college student, and i live within walking distance to campus, so it'll mainly be used for leisurely purposes and running errands.
#62
The 3.0 Sport with a maual transmission is .5 second faster 0-6 than the automatic; 6.6 vs. 7.1. I also put a K&N and Borlas on mine. Not sure if it IS quicker than that, but it FEELS (and sounds) quicker.
I just came back last night from a business trip after being gone all week. Was stuck in rush hour and constuction traffic in Chicago while heading home to Milawaukee (about 100 miles). Was in everything from stop and go to 85mph. Comfortable seats, excellent handling and suspension, Alpine turned up. Can't think of a better way to make the best of a frustrating ride home after a long week. It's stuff like that that make me appreciate this car more all the time. Had a brand new Ford Fusion rental car all week. The sensory pleasure derived between the two could not be more striking. Yes, they are certainly not apples to apples. Although the Fusion was competent in every way it was not memorable or, at least to me, a satisfying driving experience. It was just another car, which is fine. But we didn't buy our cars just to get from point A to point B. I think it's those sorts of things that make us love the X. Chrome/no chrome, sport/ non-sport, wood/carbon fiber; it doesn't matter. As long as when you drive it and look at it you get that visceral pleasure that car guys love that is what is important.
I just came back last night from a business trip after being gone all week. Was stuck in rush hour and constuction traffic in Chicago while heading home to Milawaukee (about 100 miles). Was in everything from stop and go to 85mph. Comfortable seats, excellent handling and suspension, Alpine turned up. Can't think of a better way to make the best of a frustrating ride home after a long week. It's stuff like that that make me appreciate this car more all the time. Had a brand new Ford Fusion rental car all week. The sensory pleasure derived between the two could not be more striking. Yes, they are certainly not apples to apples. Although the Fusion was competent in every way it was not memorable or, at least to me, a satisfying driving experience. It was just another car, which is fine. But we didn't buy our cars just to get from point A to point B. I think it's those sorts of things that make us love the X. Chrome/no chrome, sport/ non-sport, wood/carbon fiber; it doesn't matter. As long as when you drive it and look at it you get that visceral pleasure that car guys love that is what is important.
#63
The 3.0 Sport with a maual transmission is .5 second faster 0-6 than the automatic; 6.6 vs. 7.1. I also put a K&N and Borlas on mine. Not sure if it IS quicker than that, but it FEELS (and sounds) quicker.
I just came back last night from a business trip after being gone all week. Was stuck in rush hour and constuction traffic in Chicago while heading home to Milawaukee (about 100 miles). Was in everything from stop and go to 85mph. Comfortable seats, excellent handling and suspension, Alpine turned up. Can't think of a better way to make the best of a frustrating ride home after a long week. It's stuff like that that make me appreciate this car more all the time. Had a brand new Ford Fusion rental car all week. The sensory pleasure derived between the two could not be more striking. Yes, they are certainly not apples to apples. Although the Fusion was competent in every way it was not memorable or, at least to me, a satisfying driving experience. It was just another car, which is fine. But we didn't buy our cars just to get from point A to point B. I think it's those sorts of things that make us love the X. Chrome/no chrome, sport/ non-sport, wood/carbon fiber; it doesn't matter. As long as when you drive it and look at it you get that visceral pleasure that car guys love that is what is important.
I just came back last night from a business trip after being gone all week. Was stuck in rush hour and constuction traffic in Chicago while heading home to Milawaukee (about 100 miles). Was in everything from stop and go to 85mph. Comfortable seats, excellent handling and suspension, Alpine turned up. Can't think of a better way to make the best of a frustrating ride home after a long week. It's stuff like that that make me appreciate this car more all the time. Had a brand new Ford Fusion rental car all week. The sensory pleasure derived between the two could not be more striking. Yes, they are certainly not apples to apples. Although the Fusion was competent in every way it was not memorable or, at least to me, a satisfying driving experience. It was just another car, which is fine. But we didn't buy our cars just to get from point A to point B. I think it's those sorts of things that make us love the X. Chrome/no chrome, sport/ non-sport, wood/carbon fiber; it doesn't matter. As long as when you drive it and look at it you get that visceral pleasure that car guys love that is what is important.
One thing I love about this car is the way the door sounds when you shut it. When I shut doors on any luxury Japanese cars, it just sounds like shutting a door. When I shut mine, it sounds like I'm closing a Bank Vault!! It just sounds so good. Even better than all the German cars I've came across. Now some people might think that the way the door sounds might be a stupid issue. But when the door sounds like closing a heavy door on a bank vault and not one on your closet at home, it gives the car a feeling of quality. It sounds like a "solid" car. So far only the Germans and British can make their doors sound like this.
Anyone else notice this?
#64
Well said.
One thing I love about this car is the way the door sounds when you shut it. When I shut doors on any luxury Japanese cars, it just sounds like shutting a door. When I shut mine, it sounds like I'm closing a Bank Vault!! It just sounds so good. Even better than all the German cars I've came across. Now some people might think that the way the door sounds might be a stupid issue. But when the door sounds like closing a heavy door on a bank vault and not one on your closet at home, it gives the car a feeling of quality. It sounds like a "solid" car. So far only the Germans and British can make their doors sound like this.
Anyone else notice this?
One thing I love about this car is the way the door sounds when you shut it. When I shut doors on any luxury Japanese cars, it just sounds like shutting a door. When I shut mine, it sounds like I'm closing a Bank Vault!! It just sounds so good. Even better than all the German cars I've came across. Now some people might think that the way the door sounds might be a stupid issue. But when the door sounds like closing a heavy door on a bank vault and not one on your closet at home, it gives the car a feeling of quality. It sounds like a "solid" car. So far only the Germans and British can make their doors sound like this.
Anyone else notice this?
#66
Yeah, I agree. Nice feel, nice sound to the doors. Something else I just love is the radio and cruise control buttons on the steering wheel. In 2005 they changed the steering wheel and raised the controls up and put in those ingenious spring loaded wheels. So simple, yet so effective. And place perfectly as well.
One thing I do have to say about driving that rental car I had is when you fill it up there is no gas cap to remove. You just push the gas nozzle right into the opening. Much more elegant than unscrewing the cap and letting it dangle. I've never seen that before.
One thing I do have to say about driving that rental car I had is when you fill it up there is no gas cap to remove. You just push the gas nozzle right into the opening. Much more elegant than unscrewing the cap and letting it dangle. I've never seen that before.
#67
Yeah, I agree. Nice feel, nice sound to the doors. Something else I just love is the radio and cruise control buttons on the steering wheel. In 2005 they changed the steering wheel and raised the controls up and put in those ingenious spring loaded wheels. So simple, yet so effective. And place perfectly as well.
One thing I do have to say about driving that rental car I had is when you fill it up there is no gas cap to remove. You just push the gas nozzle right into the opening. Much more elegant than unscrewing the cap and letting it dangle. I've never seen that before.
One thing I do have to say about driving that rental car I had is when you fill it up there is no gas cap to remove. You just push the gas nozzle right into the opening. Much more elegant than unscrewing the cap and letting it dangle. I've never seen that before.
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i must admit my 2002 x-type has been trouble free...im very surprised i have not run into any problems except the dash vents ...i fixed it and that was it...i dont drive it hard or try to race anybody...i have a mazda rx7 turbo for that ...but i would be carefull and get the vin number and call your nearest jag dealer and they can pull up your car and tell you what service has been done ...i did that when i bought mine ...good luck
#71
One thing I love about this car is the way the door sounds when you shut it. When I shut doors on any luxury Japanese cars, it just sounds like shutting a door. When I shut mine, it sounds like I'm closing a Bank Vault!! It just sounds so good. Even better than all the German cars I've came across. Now some people might think that the way the door sounds might be a stupid issue. But when the door sounds like closing a heavy door on a bank vault and not one on your closet at home, it gives the car a feeling of quality. It sounds like a "solid" car. So far only the Germans and British can make their doors sound like this.
Anyone else notice this?
And I thought I was the only one that enjoyed the way a car door shuts! Seriously I figured I was just crazy! Seriously!
Glad to see I'm not crazy! I love shutting a car door that isn't like shutting the door on your dryer! I also hate shutting car doors when they half shut because they are old...
I remember when my dad bought his 94 f150 and you could shut the doors or windows and your ears would pop it was so air tight (didn't last long with the 5 accidents he was in.
Another thing I hated about my jag or the other people was how light the door was and how hard they would shut it.
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Yea the door isn't super light, but it is on the lighter side. I still feel a bit of weight in it, but I like it like that. The bimmers are lighter and my gf's audi has doors that almost seem power assisted. I lightly pull it and the door swings out to as far as it can open and then recoils and shuts itself again like a spring that was loaded or something. You have to be very careful opening those doors in a parking lot with other cars next to you, it is very annoying.
And I think it sounds best when you close it lightly. But slamming the door doesn't make me cringe either. Door still sounds solid.
And I think it sounds best when you close it lightly. But slamming the door doesn't make me cringe either. Door still sounds solid.
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