X type Winter car
#1
X type Winter car
My X308 XJR has been put away in my barn and my X type has come out as a winter 'beater'. I bought it some months ago from North Carolina a manual 3.0
I went under the car yesterday on the lift- No structural body rust. Some of the subframes and arms have surface rust.
For the rear LCAs (which are cheap pressings in steel) I was wondering if the alum arms from a similar platform car could be substituted (V40, S40?)
I know of the X type sill/rocker panel rust issues and Id like to prevent them. I'm open to advice here.
I have bought Waxoyl, Eastwood rust encapsulator and KBS cavity wax.
Today I'll likely take off the plastic sill protectors and see what I can do...
I went under the car yesterday on the lift- No structural body rust. Some of the subframes and arms have surface rust.
For the rear LCAs (which are cheap pressings in steel) I was wondering if the alum arms from a similar platform car could be substituted (V40, S40?)
I know of the X type sill/rocker panel rust issues and Id like to prevent them. I'm open to advice here.
I have bought Waxoyl, Eastwood rust encapsulator and KBS cavity wax.
Today I'll likely take off the plastic sill protectors and see what I can do...
#2
Good to see another purchasing an X-type as a winter beater. AWD with DSC, they work great as winter drivers.
I've been working on finding suspension components from other cars that might be swapped onto the X-types. I'll put some of my finding together, but so far, other than the posted interchangeable parts, I haven't found any other parts that are a direct swap.
I've been working on finding suspension components from other cars that might be swapped onto the X-types. I'll put some of my finding together, but so far, other than the posted interchangeable parts, I haven't found any other parts that are a direct swap.
#4
Good to see another purchasing an X-type as a winter beater. AWD with DSC, they work great as winter drivers.
I've been working on finding suspension components from other cars that might be swapped onto the X-types. I'll put some of my finding together, but so far, other than the posted interchangeable parts, I haven't found any other parts that are a direct swap.
I've been working on finding suspension components from other cars that might be swapped onto the X-types. I'll put some of my finding together, but so far, other than the posted interchangeable parts, I haven't found any other parts that are a direct swap.
I couldn't get the plastic sill protectors off. The plastic screws seem on there good. My metal sills are immaculate. I must do something this week!
Some have said that the adjustable Volvo upper rear arms are be used- which got me thinking about the lower arms.
Ive measured the X type lower arms (the spring platforms) and I'll go and look at Volvo ones.
The type rear LCAs hook the anti roll bars too, I hope the Volvo ones do too
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I haven't had time to take some pics and put together anything detailed regarding suspensions similar to the X-type. But based on observations I've been making is that I think a bunch of cars under the Ford "influence" started off using the same 3-D suspension geometry models, then modified a set of baseline parts to specifically fit onto the version of car being designed. (Ford CD132 Platform) Jaguar X-type, Mondeo, Volvo S40/S60, Mazda to name a few.
When I measure other brand parts I have gathered over time that I think might work on the X-type, some feature of the part is different, but the basic geometries are the same. I could get the part to fit if I modified one specific mounting connector on the X-type. But the cost of the other car's replacement part is about the same as the X-type so why bother.
The attached image will show the general problems.
When I measure other brand parts I have gathered over time that I think might work on the X-type, some feature of the part is different, but the basic geometries are the same. I could get the part to fit if I modified one specific mounting connector on the X-type. But the cost of the other car's replacement part is about the same as the X-type so why bother.
The attached image will show the general problems.
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Panthro (05-05-2022)
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This is the one front lower aluminum Control arm "Honda Odyssey" that I am captivated with at the moment. Visually, it might fit, but who knows unless you found a set to measure. I don't want to spend the money to purchase one. Perhaps if I find one for a few bucks I might get one to measure.
https://www.ebay.com/p/25023257227?iid=153160400236&chn=ps&norover=1&mkev t=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=153160400236&targetid=54145424993 2&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9021400&poi=&campa ignid=6470552628&mkgroupid=81274342767&rlsatarget= aud-622524041678la-541454249932&abcId=1139336&merchantid=118880204&gc lid=CjwKCAjw3c_tBRA4EiwAICs8Cjv8oGrETeDmkux5MzdMjn ytW6SUPAVlbcnm0CinjHEc75AW9xkckRoCKW4QAvD_BwE
https://www.ebay.com/p/25023257227?iid=153160400236&chn=ps&norover=1&mkev t=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=153160400236&targetid=54145424993 2&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9021400&poi=&campa ignid=6470552628&mkgroupid=81274342767&rlsatarget= aud-622524041678la-541454249932&abcId=1139336&merchantid=118880204&gc lid=CjwKCAjw3c_tBRA4EiwAICs8Cjv8oGrETeDmkux5MzdMjn ytW6SUPAVlbcnm0CinjHEc75AW9xkckRoCKW4QAvD_BwE
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I haven't had time to take some pics and put together anything detailed regarding suspensions similar to the X-type. But based on observations I've been making is that I think a bunch of cars under the Ford "influence" started off using the same 3-D suspension geometry models, then modified a set of baseline parts to specifically fit onto the version of car being designed. (Ford CD132 Platform) Jaguar X-type, Mondeo, Volvo S40/S60, Mazda to name a few.
When I measure other brand parts I have gathered over time that I think might work on the X-type, some feature of the part is different, but the basic geometries are the same. I could get the part to fit if I modified one specific mounting connector on the X-type. But the cost of the other car's replacement part is about the same as the X-type so why bother.
The attached image will show the general problems.
When I measure other brand parts I have gathered over time that I think might work on the X-type, some feature of the part is different, but the basic geometries are the same. I could get the part to fit if I modified one specific mounting connector on the X-type. But the cost of the other car's replacement part is about the same as the X-type so why bother.
The attached image will show the general problems.
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#8
Like the Count, I too am looking for aluminum control arms / parts. My X-types are for winter driving. One year after replacing the painted steel suspension parts with aftermarket parts, they are already showing massive signs of rusting due to salt and Mag-chloride exposure. Aluminum parts are lighter and they appear to handle the salts and mag-chloride a bit better. (At least on my other cars used in the winter.)
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RudyF6 (10-29-2019)
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Like the Count, I too am looking for aluminum control arms / parts. My X-types are for winter driving. One year after replacing the painted steel suspension parts with aftermarket parts, they are already showing massive signs of rusting due to salt and Mag-chloride exposure. Aluminum parts are lighter and they appear to handle the salts and mag-chloride a bit better. (At least on my other cars used in the winter.)
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