Dynamic vs Sports Modes
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Hi. With the XKR what you notice most is that the dynamic sharpens up the suspension and it opens up the exhaust. The suspension gets a bit jarring. In sport, the throttle is much more aggressive and the car will change up later and change down earlier, so it is great for windy roads. Sport is even better using the paddles, with tremendous throttle response, but using sport and dynamic at the same time with the paddles is a little extreme, making the changes lumpy and a tendency to bunny hop in first.
With the XE, most reviews suggested to run it in dynamic mode which we do all the time. It sharpens up the auto in the 25T which apparently can otherwise hunt for gears a little. But the ride isnt adversely affected, it really couldnt be any better even on substandard roads. I have only put the car into sport a couple of times because the car is still being run in. I did notice quite an enhanced throttle response, though it lost its smoothness, which I suppose you would expect.
With the XE, most reviews suggested to run it in dynamic mode which we do all the time. It sharpens up the auto in the 25T which apparently can otherwise hunt for gears a little. But the ride isnt adversely affected, it really couldnt be any better even on substandard roads. I have only put the car into sport a couple of times because the car is still being run in. I did notice quite an enhanced throttle response, though it lost its smoothness, which I suppose you would expect.
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While we're on the subject, I'm very curious about the $1,000 option of adaptive dynamics? Just by reading the short paragraph on Jaguar's website, it seems like it's just automatically switches between suspension settings on the fly depending on how hard you're pushing the car, without having to manually change the settings, but just guessing. Not really sure if it's worth the money? My wife will leave the car in normal mode, and I'll always switch it to sport. Anyone else have this on other Jaguar models, and can explain?
Last edited by QwikCat; 02-26-2016 at 08:41 AM.
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According to the manuals:
- Quick Start Guide
- Full Manual (web page) - will download a pdf for each manual page selected
The transmission selector only affects the transmission shift points. In "S" permanent manual mode is initiated is you use the paddles.
Further, if you are in "S" mode and dynamic mode, the transmission does not upshift automatically at all:
When Dynamic mode is selected while in transmission S, up-shifts are fully controlled by the driver. The transmission does not automatically change up to the next gear, even if the engine’s rev limit is reached.
- throttle response,
- steering weight and,
- and suspension, (only if you have "Adaptive Dynamics").
Changing between Driving modes will alter various vehicle settings, for example, engine revs may alter on selection of a different Driving mode, while at a constant accelerator pedal position, steering system feel may also become heavier or lighter. These changes are not dramatic but will be noticeable.
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Well that is interesting pcbrew. With my 5 series, sport mode affects the transmission (gear shifts are delayed, down shifts are more aggressive and 8th gear is locked out) and throttle response is enhanced. Based on your research, it appears that this combination is not possible in the XE. With the XE you can have sportier shifts via the sport mode OR enhanced throttle response via the dynamic mode. If you try to have both you are left with manual shifting via the paddles. As a number of auto critics have stated, modern day transmissions are more effective in maximizing performance than manual shifting, so this does not appear to be the best outcome for the spirited driver. Surely this cannot be the case....
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One is NOT "manual shifting" w/ the paddles. It is still the automatic doing the shifting, but it is the driver making the decision of when to shift. The speed of shifts is the same in full auto mode or when using paddles.
It's exactly the same transmission as in the F-Type, and you can use Dynamic mode in full automatic by leaving the shift lever the right (not in Sport mode). Moreover, you get sportier shifts AND (not OR) more aggressive throttle mapping in Dynamic mode. I wouldn't call it "enhanced" throttle response, because all it does it shorten the distance one needs to press the pedal to get more throttle. You still have full throttle travel without it, but you just have to push the pedal further to get it. It's nothing more than a different throttle mapping.
It's exactly the same transmission as in the F-Type, and you can use Dynamic mode in full automatic by leaving the shift lever the right (not in Sport mode). Moreover, you get sportier shifts AND (not OR) more aggressive throttle mapping in Dynamic mode. I wouldn't call it "enhanced" throttle response, because all it does it shorten the distance one needs to press the pedal to get more throttle. You still have full throttle travel without it, but you just have to push the pedal further to get it. It's nothing more than a different throttle mapping.
Last edited by Foosh; 02-26-2016 at 11:04 PM.
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Well that is interesting pcbrew. With my 5 series, sport mode affects the transmission (gear shifts are delayed, down shifts are more aggressive and 8th gear is locked out) and throttle response is enhanced. Based on your research, it appears that this combination is not possible in the XE. With the XE you can have sportier shifts via the sport mode OR enhanced throttle response via the dynamic mode. If you try to have both you are left with manual shifting via the paddles. As a number of auto critics have stated, modern day transmissions are more effective in maximizing performance than manual shifting, so this does not appear to be the best outcome for the spirited driver. Surely this cannot be the case....
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Hi. With the XKR what you notice most is that the dynamic sharpens up the suspension and it opens up the exhaust. The suspension gets a bit jarring. In sport, the throttle is much more aggressive and the car will change up later and change down earlier, so it is great for windy roads. Sport is even better using the paddles, with tremendous throttle response, but using sport and dynamic at the same time with the paddles is a little extreme, making the changes lumpy and a tendency to bunny hop in first.
With the XE, most reviews suggested to run it in dynamic mode which we do all the time. It sharpens up the auto in the 25T which apparently can otherwise hunt for gears a little. But the ride isnt adversely affected, it really couldnt be any better even on substandard roads. I have only put the car into sport a couple of times because the car is still being run in. I did notice quite an enhanced throttle response, though it lost its smoothness, which I suppose you would expect.
With the XE, most reviews suggested to run it in dynamic mode which we do all the time. It sharpens up the auto in the 25T which apparently can otherwise hunt for gears a little. But the ride isnt adversely affected, it really couldnt be any better even on substandard roads. I have only put the car into sport a couple of times because the car is still being run in. I did notice quite an enhanced throttle response, though it lost its smoothness, which I suppose you would expect.
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I have seen a few 'is the XE a proper Jaguar' discussions in various guises. Most seem to be argued around the amount of wood and leather on offer and the shape of the grille. In truth the leather and wood thing is something from the 80's and 90's, when Jaguar was struggling to find an identity for itself post British Leyland without too much recourse to innovation and elegant design. Wood and Leather do not define a Jaguar.
Jaguar is really about cars like the XK120/140, the D-type, the E-Type and the mark I and II saloons. Pace and grace, design that makes you stop and look, and above all, innovation. Cars that changed the market place.
That's what I bought into when I ordered my XE. Mike Hailwood in a D type at le Mans, a saloon car so good that it was once the getaway of choice of bankrobbers, not just because of it's exceptional flat out speed, but because of it's sports car like handling (they chose the 2.4 over the 3.6).
To me those are the true values and legacy of Jaguar and the current range, particularly the XE, are exactly in tune with what Lyons laid down as the core characteristics of the marque.
p.s. I have no intention of robbing a bank. Although if I did I'd make a better fist of showing the law a clean pair of heels than OJ ever managed.
Jaguar is really about cars like the XK120/140, the D-type, the E-Type and the mark I and II saloons. Pace and grace, design that makes you stop and look, and above all, innovation. Cars that changed the market place.
That's what I bought into when I ordered my XE. Mike Hailwood in a D type at le Mans, a saloon car so good that it was once the getaway of choice of bankrobbers, not just because of it's exceptional flat out speed, but because of it's sports car like handling (they chose the 2.4 over the 3.6).
To me those are the true values and legacy of Jaguar and the current range, particularly the XE, are exactly in tune with what Lyons laid down as the core characteristics of the marque.
p.s. I have no intention of robbing a bank. Although if I did I'd make a better fist of showing the law a clean pair of heels than OJ ever managed.
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I have seen a few 'is the XE a proper Jaguar' discussions in various guises. Most seem to be argued around the amount of wood and leather on offer and the shape of the grille. In truth the leather and wood thing is something from the 80's and 90's, when Jaguar was struggling to find an identity for itself post British Leyland without too much recourse to innovation and elegant design. Wood and Leather do not define a Jaguar.
Jaguar is really about cars like the XK120/140, the D-type, the E-Type and the mark I and II saloons. Pace and grace, design that makes you stop and look, and above all, innovation. Cars that changed the market place.
That's what I bought into when I ordered my XE. Mike Hailwood in a D type at le Mans, a saloon car so good that it was once the getaway of choice of bankrobbers, not just because of it's exceptional flat out speed, but because of it's sports car like handling (they chose the 2.4 over the 3.6).
To me those are the true values and legacy of Jaguar and the current range, particularly the XE, are exactly in tune with what Lyons laid down as the core characteristics of the marque.
p.s. I have no intention of robbing a bank. Although if I did I'd make a better fist of showing the law a clean pair of heels than OJ ever managed.
Jaguar is really about cars like the XK120/140, the D-type, the E-Type and the mark I and II saloons. Pace and grace, design that makes you stop and look, and above all, innovation. Cars that changed the market place.
That's what I bought into when I ordered my XE. Mike Hailwood in a D type at le Mans, a saloon car so good that it was once the getaway of choice of bankrobbers, not just because of it's exceptional flat out speed, but because of it's sports car like handling (they chose the 2.4 over the 3.6).
To me those are the true values and legacy of Jaguar and the current range, particularly the XE, are exactly in tune with what Lyons laid down as the core characteristics of the marque.
p.s. I have no intention of robbing a bank. Although if I did I'd make a better fist of showing the law a clean pair of heels than OJ ever managed.
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