Replace Coolant pipes?
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I just took my 2017 XE R-Sport to my dealer for its annual service. The car has only 30,000 miles. In addition to all of the regular stuff (oil change, tire and brake inspection, etc.), the dealer said, “the coolant pipe system needs to be replaced since it’s the old style it runs the risk of breaking we can replace it for $3121.46.
it sounds as though they are recommending that I replace the pipe system simply “because it’s the old style” rather than because they found any specific problem.
Should I now get a second opinion? Forget the whole thing? Any advice would be appreciated.
it sounds as though they are recommending that I replace the pipe system simply “because it’s the old style” rather than because they found any specific problem.
Should I now get a second opinion? Forget the whole thing? Any advice would be appreciated.
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The coolant pipes on the AJ126 are now well known to be a common source of sometimes catastrophic failure.
Many of those pipes can and do crack or split then leak profusely and some say it's not a case of if but when.
For that reason many owners have replaced those pipes either after a failure or before any leak has been detected, and the good news is you can now get a comprehensive kit including the main two culprits in alu alloy instead of the problematic plastic for not a large cost, see here: https://euro-amp.com/products/jaguar...charged-engine
Yes it's a big job to fit this kit as the SC needs to come off but a decent indy shop should be able to do it for way less than the price you have been quoted, and that's for the full kit while the dealer quote may not include all of those pieces, not to mention that the JLR replacement pipes are still plastic not alu alloy like in that kit.
By "old style" the dealer means the two main suspects (the front the cross-over/Y pipes) which are plastic with plasti-welded seams which JLR updated some time in 2018 to smooth pipes with no seams but still plastic. The other main culprit is the rear heater/manifold pipe which is still seamed plastic.
Many of those pipes can and do crack or split then leak profusely and some say it's not a case of if but when.
For that reason many owners have replaced those pipes either after a failure or before any leak has been detected, and the good news is you can now get a comprehensive kit including the main two culprits in alu alloy instead of the problematic plastic for not a large cost, see here: https://euro-amp.com/products/jaguar...charged-engine
Yes it's a big job to fit this kit as the SC needs to come off but a decent indy shop should be able to do it for way less than the price you have been quoted, and that's for the full kit while the dealer quote may not include all of those pieces, not to mention that the JLR replacement pipes are still plastic not alu alloy like in that kit.
By "old style" the dealer means the two main suspects (the front the cross-over/Y pipes) which are plastic with plasti-welded seams which JLR updated some time in 2018 to smooth pipes with no seams but still plastic. The other main culprit is the rear heater/manifold pipe which is still seamed plastic.
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My 2017 XE35t had a catastrophic failure of the pipes near the water pump at 51K mi.. The Issue is the old style coolant pipes were made using a substandard double-seam design. The newer plastic pipes they replace these with are single seamed and more robust. They really should have a recall, but the XE numbers are very small in the US. There are many metal pipe kits that are better than any plastic, I'm having this one installed with my Tune in two weeks (I have a new 2017 XE for me with 13K Mi., I'm rebuilding my totaled previous ride). .:
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