still heavier than 3 series/ c class
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"despite featuring the brand’s much-hyped aluminium-intensive monocoque chassis – which is unique to the premium mid-sized segment – the XE is still heavier than the BMW 3 Series (from 1385kg) and Mercedes-Benz C-Class (from 1395kg)"
Read more at 2015 Jaguar XE range revealed | CarAdvice
Read more at 2015 Jaguar XE range revealed | CarAdvice
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They quote the XE as 1474 kg to 1665 kg. I'm unsure why they have the diesel as the lightest model (lighter than the gasoline). They quote the 3 series as 1385 kg. I'm going to convert all to lbs since that's how I think.
So the XE is from 3249 to 3670. The 3 series they peg at 3054. I don't know what 3 series they are using, I've never seen one tested at that weight.
The last 320 (rwd) that Car and Drive tested (6/29/13) weighed in at 3337; the 328D awd tested 10/7/13 weighed 3660; their test of he 328 rwd on 2/6/12 weighted 3485.
I think we will need to wait until production versions are tested by independent organizations to see where the weight falls, but I think it will come in very competitive with the 3 series.
So the XE is from 3249 to 3670. The 3 series they peg at 3054. I don't know what 3 series they are using, I've never seen one tested at that weight.
The last 320 (rwd) that Car and Drive tested (6/29/13) weighed in at 3337; the 328D awd tested 10/7/13 weighed 3660; their test of he 328 rwd on 2/6/12 weighted 3485.
I think we will need to wait until production versions are tested by independent organizations to see where the weight falls, but I think it will come in very competitive with the 3 series.
"despite featuring the brand’s much-hyped aluminium-intensive monocoque chassis – which is unique to the premium mid-sized segment – the XE is still heavier than the BMW 3 Series (from 1385kg) and Mercedes-Benz C-Class (from 1395kg)"
Read more at 2015 Jaguar XE range revealed | CarAdvice
Read more at 2015 Jaguar XE range revealed | CarAdvice
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Too soon to make a judgment. 95% of the people buying it, won't be taking weight into consideration. Same goes for the BMW. It's just the very small percentage that are on the forums who are sensitive to weight etc.
The XJ is 600-700 pounds lighter than any 7 series and S class. So we will have to wait and see.
The XJ is 600-700 pounds lighter than any 7 series and S class. So we will have to wait and see.
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Autocar magazine this week has some more details. The new 2 litre petrol engine is turbo-charged, and has two power levels, 197 and 237 bhp, but the same CO2 emissions for both engines. This is 179 gm/km, thus giving a road tax of £225 per annum. This is with an auto transmission as standard. Th diesels get a manual option. However I could easily live with that £225, as I'm already paying £285 for my 2004 XJ6.
I just hope I am still motoring when the cars have depreciated a bit to my sort of budget level !!
I just hope I am still motoring when the cars have depreciated a bit to my sort of budget level !!
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I think I read that the XE architecture is ahead of its time for safety standards and that's why it is heavy now. It is an all new frame so they are building it planning for ten years in the future. When the C-class and 3 series catch up in a couple of years they will likely be heavier than the XE. So for now the XE may be behind the Germans a little but its a good start and could possibly out shine them in the future.
Thing is, people might expect the XE to out German the Germans, but that's not why we like Jags right? I like the different ways the Jags perform to the German cars. There's a warmth to the engineering that makes them a great place to sit and drive.
Thing is, people might expect the XE to out German the Germans, but that's not why we like Jags right? I like the different ways the Jags perform to the German cars. There's a warmth to the engineering that makes them a great place to sit and drive.
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I think I read that the XE architecture is ahead of its time for safety standards and that's why it is heavy now. It is an all new frame so they are building it planning for ten years in the future. When the C-class and 3 series catch up in a couple of years they will likely be heavier than the XE. So for now the XE may be behind the Germans a little but its a good start and could possibly out shine them in the future.
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They say the new C-class is about 50% aluminum, the XE will be about 75% aluminum. Not saying that that translate to a better car, but that the XE is at least cutting edge compared to previous Jag attempts into this market and will be a good starting point to build off of.
In order to get really serious about weight reduction, a manufacturer has to make major investment in re-engineering every single component including all the "nuts and bolts." Every extra ounce makes a difference when you add it all up.
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Agreed. The XF was quite a heavy thing and it drove much better than the 5 series and the E class. I read somewhere that some of the weight in the XE is in the suspension which is supposed to be awesome, anyway.
Even in the Benz Blog the review of the XE against the Benz C seemed to have the XE in front, on my reading.
Even in the Benz Blog the review of the XE against the Benz C seemed to have the XE in front, on my reading.
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It's not easy to make a comparison. Not all manufacturers give truly like for like weights. But as far as I can make out stated kerb weights for the three models are
2015 BMW 3 Series 2.0 diesel manual :- 1430 kg (or 1450, depending)
2015 Jaguar XE 2.0 diesel manual :- 1475 kg
2015 Merc C Class 2.0 diesel manual :- 1485 kg
Nothing in it really.
2015 BMW 3 Series 2.0 diesel manual :- 1430 kg (or 1450, depending)
2015 Jaguar XE 2.0 diesel manual :- 1475 kg
2015 Merc C Class 2.0 diesel manual :- 1485 kg
Nothing in it really.
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Exactly! The weight of the car or any other car for that matter will be the farthest thing from my mind when I make the purchase.
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