XE ( X760 ) 2015 -

TCU (TELEMATICS) bypass - force start?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 01-03-2024, 03:00 PM
Jb12883's Avatar
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2023
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default TCU (TELEMATICS) bypass - force start?

2017 XE R-Sport 35t (3.0L)

"​​​​SOS Not Available" - battery was changed in module and primary battery as well. SDD does not recognize TCU as being fitted. When trying to do anything with the module, it goes straight to the "reading SIM type," but never gets past it. It's a constant communication/connectivity failure. I'm sure the TCU is jacked, but has anyone tried to bypass the TCU in order to allow the car to start? I know there's obviously a way, and to be honest, I honestly don't care to have the TCU - for me, it's not worth the issues. Any help appreciated, thanks.

Also, I am running JLR SDD v.164...does anyone anyone knows how to get access/seed code for CCF? Legit code generator?
Thanks again.
 
  #2  
Old 01-11-2024, 07:57 PM
dennis black's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: May 2006
Location: connecticut
Posts: 1,688
Received 447 Likes on 327 Posts
Default

Go back to recommendations Extra
go down to Vehicle reset
Follow promts
 
  #3  
Old 01-20-2024, 04:37 PM
Jb12883's Avatar
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2023
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I tried to vehicle reset.but still no start.
 
  #4  
Old 02-05-2024, 07:41 PM
dennis black's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: May 2006
Location: connecticut
Posts: 1,688
Received 447 Likes on 327 Posts
Default

with sdd first configure your cluster gauge and run any updates on it then configure immobilizer, make sure your maintainer is connected full green
 
  #5  
Old 04-01-2024, 03:24 PM
Lates's Avatar
Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2024
Location: Coventry, UK
Posts: 6
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Jb12883
2017 XE R-Sport 35t (3.0L)

"​​​​SOS Not Available" - battery was changed in module and primary battery as well. SDD does not recognize TCU as being fitted. When trying to do anything with the module, it goes straight to the "reading SIM type," but never gets past it. It's a constant communication/connectivity failure. I'm sure the TCU is jacked, but has anyone tried to bypass the TCU in order to allow the car to start? I know there's obviously a way, and to be honest, I honestly don't care to have the TCU - for me, it's not worth the issues. Any help appreciated, thanks.

Also, I am running JLR SDD v.164...does anyone anyone knows how to get access/seed code for CCF? Legit code generator?
Thanks again.
Good evening All,
firstly apologies for the thread resurrection.
My XE statues playing up with needle sweep and no crank last week. Disconnected the battery for a moment and normal operation restored.
Very short lived and the car failed again in a couple
of days.
Took out the tcu and noted dampness on the coax cables. Left on a radiator to dry all though it looked ok.
Out back in the car and it behaved for a few days.
the sos warning disappeared and the app updated ok too.
Was semi thinking that the shark fin may have water ingress and there was witness marks / moisture on the coax leads. So I was going away for a few days I left a poly bag taped to the roof to try and let the car dry out.
Came back today car is now a none start again.
shark fin is dry btw. Took off the LH roof trim and suspect the panels are no longer sealed. Slow hose proved this theory out.
Run some silicone over it as temp fix but the car no longer starts.
I know TCU’s are on back order at 830+vat.
was there ever a work around to bypass this thing or does anyone engage a good tcu I can install to prove out if it’s faulty - circuit board does look ok to me as well.
secondly would a dead tcu battery cause these symptoms ? I can get one from a local retailer for around £50….
any guidance , hints or tips greatly appreciated.

Thanks all in advance.
 
  #6  
Old 04-02-2024, 04:49 PM
Jb12883's Avatar
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2023
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I played around and figured out how to start the car bypassing the BCM/TCU, simply by shorting the starter relay.
I also had condensation on my TCU. I opened up the TCU and found NO oxidation, signs of water entry, or signs of shorting anywhere. Inside and out looked brand new, however, the TCU was the problem.
If you have SOS Limited Function, change the battery pack in the TCU.
If you have SOS Not Available, change the TCU
I ordered one online and reprogrammed it myself with a Snap-On Passthrough Pro and a copy of SDD.

Edit:
After tax/shipping, I paid $823.39 for the new TCU.
Also, there was a TSB about water intrusion due to the grommets under the third brake light (on top of the back glass). Updated grommets are available.

 

Last edited by Jb12883; 04-02-2024 at 05:01 PM.
  #7  
Old 04-03-2024, 04:30 AM
Lates's Avatar
Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2024
Location: Coventry, UK
Posts: 6
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thank you for the reply.
my concern is very similar to yours slight difference being the actual grommet is missing from the car.
Removal of the brake light trim isn’t a quick mission , however, a new trim and grommets are being delivered today.
new tcu’s are not available atm so I also have a second hand one coming today as well.


 
  #8  
Old 04-03-2024, 01:04 PM
Jb12883's Avatar
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2023
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Wow, the grommet was missing? Yeah, that would explain the condensation.
A used TCU won't work unless you have the means to reprogram used modules since the VIN has to match the VIN of the BCM/GWM in order for it to allow the car to start.

Also, you should call the dealer to get the correct TCU part number for your car, because the number for mine was changed.
 

Last edited by Jb12883; 04-03-2024 at 01:07 PM.
  #9  
Old 04-03-2024, 01:08 PM
Lates's Avatar
Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2024
Location: Coventry, UK
Posts: 6
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

As it stands tonight, two new grommets and stop lamp fitted. Water tested all ok. Refitted all the trim.
a second hand tcu arrived today and codes to the car after running immobilisation routine to at least allow it to drive.
correct its coded from another vin so I’ll look into this tomorrow with an elec engineer I know

it starts and drives , ableit the app is defunct and a yellow triangle on start up ( goes off once running) I can work on going forward
 
  #10  
Old 04-03-2024, 01:12 PM
Jb12883's Avatar
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2023
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

They like to say you can't reprogram used modules, but it is possible. Good luck!
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Nalanosirrah1971
XF and XFR ( X250 )
13
06-08-2024 06:57 PM
Andyd358
XF and XFR ( X250 )
9
09-04-2023 02:05 AM
davehaughton
General Tech Help
6
09-22-2021 03:32 AM
Reverend Sam
XK / XKR ( X150 )
6
06-02-2019 11:39 PM
Bladevane
XJ XJ6 / XJ8 / XJR ( X350 & X358 )
2
02-11-2014 02:23 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


Quick Reply: TCU (TELEMATICS) bypass - force start?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:10 AM.